DELL and AMD!!!!

[BOB IROC]

Has it finally come true?

Dell to offer AMD as a part of their line-up for customer choice?

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...108606,00.html

[Platypus]

Apple & Intel, Dell & AMD ...

Who's next?

[3fingersalute]

They only mention Opteron's there. I wonder if they will pick up the home line as well, or only offer AMD in servers?

[BOB IROC]

They only mention Opteron's there. I wonder if they will pick up the home line as well, or only offer AMD in servers?

I hope so, but at least its a start. I just wish the opteron servers would be available for this years budget purchases. We a primarily a dell shop and would love to get some Opteron Servers in here to make the Xeons cry. And save money, heat, and power too.

[Ferrit]

You cannot argue with success.
Now as long as Dell doesnt screw that up as well

[Mayet]

If they bring it in for the homeline I really feel that too many consumers will think they will cheapen the product and Dell will lose out on respectability and sales.

Its not the fact of which processors brand is actually better it is how the public perceives it.

[Ferrit]

I hate to tell ya this, but Dell lost that long ago.
HEH
In the end it will help them if they sell a superior product.
They know that it is and thats why they bought in
AMD has a certified server setup program. As long as they follow those guidelines it will be good .

[BOB IROC]

If they bring it in for the homeline I really feel that too many consumers will think they will cheapen the product and Dell will lose out on respectability and sales.

Really? Wow that is kind of harsh. What is your justification for saying that AMD=Cheapened product. I think AMD is well over their low end "image" they had back in the K5, K6 era. Unless they do what gateway did and use cheap componants like motherboards and limit features and that would be Dell's fault, not AMDs. Of course they would blame AMD. But I really don't think it would be any different than the $299 celeron POS's they offer now.

Besides, I have been speaking with my Dell rep (which deals with 1000's of businesses and schools in the chicagoland area) and this is a response to customer demand and the fact they have lost major sales to HP, IBM, and Sun that already offer AMD Opteron Servers. I actually called him this morning and he said they are testing AMD based desktops and will make a decision later this year or early next year on that.

[Mayet]

I'm not one of those consumers bob. I personally love AMD. I'm saying that consumers may "think" that. As far as I'm concerned its a mistaken belief and I prsonally push the AMD's. So many times though I get the old face screwed up and the old line "but AMDS not as good as intel" when i mention it. Old habits die hard with many.

Intel, especially here in Australia holds the edge over AMD for the home user.

[TechZ]

I'm not one of those consumers bob. I personally love AMD. I'm saying that consumers may "think" that. As far as I'm concerned its a mistaken belief and I prsonally push the AMD's. So many times though I get the old face screwed up and the old line "but AMDS not as good as intel" when i mention it. Old habits die hard with many.

Intel, especially here in Australia holds the edge over AMD for the home user.

Same goes with the Middle East, Intel is just assumed better, and to be fair, their customer support in this region far, far out weighs that of AMD's.

[BOB IROC]

Old habits die hard with many.

That is very unfortunate and I do not blame AMD because AMD was never inferior to Intel really. I blame that on Intel spreading lies and the uneducated sales people believing them and then spreading that to the customers. When I worked for Best Buy as a tech Intel reps would come in every so often and basically tell us to tell customers that AMD was an inferior product.

I also blame PC companies for purposly limiting their AMD lines to a handful of options. I experienced this first hand when I was a tech for Gateway after Best Buy. Their "select" line of PCs had AMD processors, but you could not get as many of the options that were offered on their Intel lines. Here Intel reps did pretty much the same thing. Offered incentives and exclusive options to keep AMD out.

[BOB IROC]

Same goes with the Middle East, Intel is just assumed better, and to be fair, their customer support in this region far, far out weighs that of AMD's.

But then you have countries like China and Japan that know the difference and AMD is very strong in those countries. Whats the difference? I guess you will never change some people's minds, but it is those same people that will not go out and actually research before they buy. I mean the benchmarks are there, the facts that show energy savings cost and less produced heat are readily available and yet some choose to ignore them and snub their noses up based on an assumption. Sad.. Very Sad.

[Ferrit]

I think the point being missed here is this is a "Server Market"
Hence general public opinion isnt really a factor.
Price,power savings is critical and becomes more so each day.
This has spawned the Power Per Watt

[BOB IROC]

I think the point being missed here is this is a "Server Market"

I think it is just some speculation on what would happen if Dell offered AMD in their desktop lines and that turned into a discussion about why some people view AMD and an inferior product. It turns out it is because they "assume" AMD is inferior and don't actually go out and get the accurate information.

[Deanodriver]

I guess another major reason is marketing.

I can not remember, ever, seeing an AMD ad on TV, but I see Intel ones often.

-- omg, 100th post, only took me 5 1/2 years!

(I've only run AMD machines here for a number of years, I might try and Intel next for something different, dunno)