Guys i need help bad!

[kieree]

My sytem is a P4 3.0 gig PC800 socket 478 prescott in an Abit IS7-E Motherboard
My problems started a couple of weeks ago with media player my pc would hang one day i checked Winbonds Hardware Doctor and it was telling me my CPU temprature was 70 degrees celcius so i unplugged the PC cleaned the fans and heatsink still the same problem. Then i updated the bios temprature dropped to about 50 degrees in idle however i got new warnings about the +3.3 voltage which i understand relates to the chipset If any of you guys know whether its hardware or software related and if it is harware is it the cpu or the motherboard and do i need to replace either any bit of advise would be great thanking you in advance

[CCT]

Go here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181 and download and install Everest Home Edition (free).

Once installed, run it and select Computer then sensor and report the voltages (you can create a report and save it as txt and Everest will save it to a sub-folder of the Everest (Lavalys) package).

Looks like this:

Temperatures:
Motherboard 42 °C (108 °F)
CPU 49 °C (120 °F)
GPU 46 °C (115 °F)
GPU Ambient 43 °C (109 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2192 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.56 V
+3.3 V 3.42 V
+5 V 5.73 V
+12 V 12.22 V
+5 V Standby 5.16 V

[kieree]

thanks mate great advise i will download it asap

[Platypus]

i got new warnings about the +3.3 voltage

That may indicate a problem with the power supply unit (PSU).

As a check comparison with the Hardware Doctor, have you observed the same readings in the BIOS setup?

A bit (ha ha) of reading also suggests folk have complained of irregular temp sensor readings from that board.

[kieree]

Thanks mate i already swapped psu still the same problem Im going to try what CCT reccomended cos im not too convinced about Hardware Doctor at least now i can get a second opinion does anyone think i should get a new heatsink in the meantime?

[NooNoo]

kieree... did you check the temps shown in bios?
Heatsinks do not usually stop working... unless you took the heatsink off the processor and didn't replace the thermal pad or paste....

The abit board should set the cpu automatically in bios... unless you have been setting it manually?

What is the case type and casefan configuration?

[CCT]

When you run Everest, check what BIOS version you have. They made a cpu temp calibration change in version 20 and some other changes from 20 to 23.

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...ies=1&model=80


It is ALWAYS wothwhile to check that your cpu heatsink is firmly attached - they can be jostled loose (at least, mine has been).

[kieree]

Guys i pasted below the relevant information from the Everest Summary it would be great if any of you could spot the problem I havent a clue what make my case is im going to borrow an old case from a friend to see if that works one more thing my system is LOUD its not a recent thing its always been loud i dont know if its the cooling fans(3) or the cpu fan or the the system although it does seem to be running >6000rpm thanks to all you guys for the help i really do appreciate it

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
Motherboard Name Abit IS7/IS7-E/IS7-G (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
System Memory 2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (03/30/05)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)
[ BIOS ]

BIOS Properties:
Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version 6.00 PG
Release Date 03/30/2005
Size 512 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, AGP, USB
Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/
Product IS7/IS7-G/IS7-E (Intel i865-ICH5)
Version 1.0
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
PAT Disabled
BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 03/30/05
Video BIOS Date 06/23/03
Award BIOS Type Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message
DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG
Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627HF (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type National LM89 (NV-I2C 4Ch)
Motherboard Name Abit IC7 / IS7 Series

Temperatures:
Motherboard 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU 51 °C (124 °F)
PWM 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU 57 °C (135 °F)
GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
MAXTOR 6L080L4 42 °C (108 °F)
WDC WD800BB-75FJA1 34 °C (93 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 3013 RPM
System 2557 RPM
North Bridge 6027 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.30 V
+3.3 V 3.12 V
+5 V 5.00 V
+12 V 11.55 V
+5 V Standby 4.78 V
VBAT Battery 3.28 V
DIMM 2.58 V
DIMM VTT 1.28 V
AGP VDDQ 1.54 V
Debug Info F 1C 0E 21
Debug Info T 44 51 45
Debug Info V 51 A1 C3 BA BE 60 50 (03)


--------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
CPU Alias Prescott
CPU Stepping C0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Original Clock 3000 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 14x / 15x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 1 MB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU:
Motherboard ID OEM00000 PROD00000000
CPU #0 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 3006 MHz
CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 3006 MHz

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 478 Pin uPGA
Package Size 3.50 cm x 3.50 cm
Transistors 125 million
Process Technology 7M, 90 nm, CMOS, Cu, Low-K Inter-Layer, High-K Gate, Strained Si
Die Size 112 mm2
Core Voltage 1.4 V
I/O Voltage 1.4 V
Typical Power 89 - 103 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 109 - 127 W (depending on clock speed)
Power Management Features:
Automatic Clock Control Supported
Enhanced Halt State (C1E) Not Supported
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology (EIST, ESS) Not Supported
Frequency ID Control Not Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
PowerSaver 1.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 2.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 3.0 Not Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Supported
Software Thermal Control Not Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 1 Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
Thermal Monitoring Not Supported
Thermal Trip Not Supported
Voltage ID Control Not Supported
BIOS Properties:
BIOS Type Award
Award BIOS Type Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message
System BIOS Date 03/30/05
Video BIOS Date 06/23/03

BIOS Manufacturer:
Company Name Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
Product Information http://www.phoenix.com/en/products/default.htm
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40

Problems & Suggestions:
Suggestion Are you looking for a BIOS Upgrade? Contact eSupport Today!
Suggestion Video BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.

[NooNoo]

Everything except the bios revision.... can you have a look for it please?
You also need to tell us the case type (midi, desktop etc) and the case fan configuration.
You didn't answer my question about the heatsink... have you taken it off? If so, did you replace the thermal pad/paste?
Have you tried resetting bios to defaults?

[kieree]

i have never messed with the heatsink its been untouched since it was installed over 2 years ago as regards my case its a tower im not sure of the manufacturer but it could be jeantech but im not even sure if they make cases im going to find out about the bios revision i will find that in bios setup? or is it the numbers in POST? as regards the voltage bios says its 3.12 about the same as hardware doctor but in doctor i get warnings even if the pc is idle

[NooNoo]

During the post it gives you the bios revision number or code...
You mentioned case fans, are they also as supplied or did you fit them? I don't need the case model, just the type so I could figure out what the air flow was like.
Voltage wanderings could be a bad PSU, similarly it could be the cpu failing or even just the cpu voltage sensor failing...

did you try resetting the bios to default?

[kieree]

I think this is the number youre looking for
03/30/2005-I865PE-W83627-6A79AA1BC-24
if it aint i apologise im totally ignorant its a fairly big tower the 2 fans i got with it are on the side and at the rear i also added another one to it of the same type once again thank you i cant really afford to purchase a new cpu or board and i believe theres plenty of life left in it

[NooNoo]

That would ID the motherboard... the bios revision is usually shown on the top left section when you see the 03/30/2005-I865PE-W83627-6A79AA1BC-24

OK, about the fans... air should blow one way, so the ones at the side and the front should suck air in and the ones at the back should blow out... Just check that the fans are arranged so that this can happen properly.. check here for explanations and diagrams

[CCT]

Since the date on your BIOS is 3/30/05 you have the revision 24 BIOS (latest).

The voltages you reported are ALL lower than optimum. With the stuff you are running, I would suggest a 450w psu is needed.

Do you have a multi-meter available to manually check the 12v output from one of the power leads?

[kieree]

a friend of mine had a look at it and is convinced its WinDoctor so he rearranged the settings and i fixed up the fans oh and as CCT said the bios revision is 2.4 im going to monitor hardware doctor for the next few days im also going to get a new case and stick back in my 450 watt and im going to try and get a multi meter