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May 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM
#1
Registered User
Another WIN98SE CD ROM not found thread.
Hi there,
I have just done a new reinstall of WIN98SE on an old HP. The CD ROM drive is showing in the BIOS and when I run DIR F: through a startup disk. Once Windows loads it loses all recognition of the CD ROM drive. It was working when I installed WIN98SE last week, but has now stopped. I was trying to install DX9 when the reading of the CD ROM drive stopped.
Is there any way that installing DirectX 9 has contributed to this problem, and how would I resolve it?
I have considered reformatting the PC and reinstalling WINME, or WIN98SE again.
Any recommendations as where to go to from here please?
PC specs are attached in a text file (from AIDA 32 report) WARNING IT'S A LONG REPORT:
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2002 Unlimited Possibilities ]----------------------------------------------------------------
Version AIDA32 v3.10
Author [email protected]
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Report Wizard Pro/Lite
Computer A5D5O3
Generator Me
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE)
Date 2007-05-14
Time 16:25
--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98
Computer Name A5D5O3
User Name Me
Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD K6-2, 300 MHz
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset SiS 5597
System Memory 123 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (07/08/98)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)
Display:
Video Adapter Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)
Monitor HP D5298A Pavilion M45/S40
Storage:
Floppy Drive GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
Partitions:
C: (FAT32) 14647 MB (13650 MB free)
D: (FAT32) 14647 MB (14646 MB free)
Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port
Network:
Network Adapter PPP Adapter.
--------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD K6-2, 300 MHz
CPU Alias Chomper, K6 3D, 6k86 3D
L1 Code Cache 32 KB
L1 Data Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 0
CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 321 Pin PGA
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
Transistors 9.3 million
Process Technology 5Mi, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 81 mm2
Core Voltage 2.2 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 8.9 - 12 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 14.7 - 20 W (depending on clock speed)
CPU Manufacturer:
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...30_118,00.html
CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 100 %
Problems & Suggestions:
Problem No CPU L2 cache found. This may cause performance penalty.
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May 13th, 2007, 11:38 PM
#2
Registered User
--------[ CPUID ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPUID Properties:
CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
CPUID Revision 0580h
Extended CPUID Revision 0680h
Platform ID C8h (Socket 7)
IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
Instruction Set:
AMD 3DNow! Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Not Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Not Supported
AMD Extended MMX Not Supported
AMD x86-64 Not Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Not Supported
IA SSE 2 Not Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Not Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Not Supported
CPUID Features:
36-bit Page Size Extension Not Supported
Automatic Clock Control Not Supported
Debug Trace Store Not Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Fast Save & Restore Not Supported
Fast System Call Not Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Not Supported
Machine-Check Architecture Not Supported
Machine-Check Exception Supported
Memory Type Range Registers Not Supported
Model Specific Registers Supported
Page Attribute Table Not Supported
Page Global Extension Not Supported
Page Size Extension Supported
Physical Address Extension Not Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Not Supported
Processor Serial Number Not Supported
Self-Snoop Not Supported
Time Stamp Counter Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported
Problems & Suggestions:
Suggestion SSE is not supported. Upgrade your CPU to speed up applications optimized for SSE.
--------[ Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID Unknown
Motherboard Name Unknown
--------[ Memory ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Physical Memory:
Total 123 MB
Used 51 MB
Free 72 MB
Utilization 41 %
Swap Space:
Total 768 MB
Used 0 MB
Free 768 MB
Utilization 0 %
Virtual Memory:
Total 2044 MB
Used 96 MB
Free 1947 MB
Utilization 5 %
Problems & Suggestions:
Problem Modern operating systems require at least 128 MB system memory for optimum performance.
--------[ Chipset ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset SiS 5597
External Cache Size 512 KB
External Cache Type Synchronous Pipelined Burst
External Cache Status Enabled
Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 64 MB (SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM)
Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
Product Information http://www.sis.com/products/index.htm#chipsets
--------[ BIOS ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIOS Properties:
BIOS Type Phoenix
System BIOS Date 07/08/98
Video BIOS Date Unknown
BIOS Manufacturer:
Company Name Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
Product Information http://www.phoenix.com/en/products/default.htm
Problems & Suggestions:
Suggestion System BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.
Suggestion Video BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.
--------[ Windows Video ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA) ]
Video Adapter Properties:
Device Description Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)
Installed Drivers vga.drv
--------[ PCI / AGP Video ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SiS Integrated Video Video Adapter
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May 14th, 2007, 12:46 AM
#3
Registered User
I'm reformatting and reinstalling WIN98SE, without the DX9 stuff, to see if that helps.
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May 14th, 2007, 03:29 AM
#4
Driver Terrier
DX9 is unlikely to have caused this problem... more likely you have a problem with the autoexec/config.sys files loading the realmode drivers... or the chipset drivers have a problem or your aspi layer is corrupt.
Let us know how the reinstall went.
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May 15th, 2007, 02:21 AM
#5
Registered User
The reinstall was fine, WIN98SE can now see the CD ROM drive, but I am having real problems with finding/installing the right chipset drivers.
I have downloaded about 5 versions of the SiS 5598 chipset drivers, even the originals from the SiS website. None are working and they all give me a blue screen of death on restart after installing. Then when I start in normal mode I get told the drivers may be incompatible with the hardware etc. So I am left with crusty 16 colours.
I have also been to the AMD site to see if they have some kind of drivers to enhance their processor, but can't find any for the AMD K6(R)-2-300Mhz.
I don't know the mobo name/manufacturer. Not even the HP specs have it. There is no visual indication of manufacturer on the mobo itself either.
All I am after now is some way to get 256 colours minimum out of this pitiful 4mb onboard VGA, without the blue screen of death.
I am about to post this in the Video/monitor forum. Should I continue to do so?
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May 15th, 2007, 03:06 AM
#6
Driver Terrier
So is the video onboard?
The report above gives no identification for the motherboard. Is this a branded machine like hp, compaq, time?
Do you know the motherboard make/model? If not try this to identify it. It will give you the bios string, so even if it doesn't come up with the make and model, give me the bios details.
The chipset is 5597 and the chipset drivers may be different from onboard video... but until I get the motherboard identifiied, I can only guess.
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May 16th, 2007, 02:34 AM
#7
Registered User
Yes it is onboard video.
It is an HP Pavillion 6306.
AIDA32 says the chipset is SiS 5597, but on the actual chip it says SiS 5598.
That tool is almost the same as AIDA32, but it did find the mobo information: Asus Spax 1.01
Thanks so much for your help too!
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May 16th, 2007, 03:53 AM
#8
Driver Terrier
I have a feeling you have not been downloading the right file... when you went to SIS were the file details
SiS5597/5598 Graphic Driver
File Name 5598_113.zip
Version v1.13
Release Date 2002-11-14
Support Products
SiS5598, SiS5597,
File Size 7,519KB
Support OS Windows NT4.0, Windows NT3.5, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE,
You may have been downloading the chipset drivers which are not always needed in 98se
Alternatively you may not have installed the agp (gart) driver from the chipset drivers so the video drivers won't work quite right.
If you have, then we need full details of the blue screens you get when you install the graphics driver.
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May 16th, 2007, 09:39 AM
#9
MegaMod
I take it you've already been to HP's website for the 6306 Desktop PC (AP):
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...&lang=en&cc=us
There is a BIOS Upgrade available...Release Date: 1999-07-29, Version: 1.10...more recent than your 07/08/98.
Product Specs here:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...=61673&lang=en
Model number D7321A
Base processor and speed AMD-K6(R)-2-300MHz Processor with 3dNow!(TM) Technology
Chipset SiS 5598
Video
Video Graphics: PCI Local Bus
Controller: SIS Integrated VGA
Video Memory: 2 MB UMA, 4MB optional
All software is pre-loaded on the hard disk drive and can be re-loaded by using the Recovery CD-ROM
Do you have access to that Recovery CD? You might be able to obtain the correct video drivers from that...just a suggetion.
Also, go with the BIOS Upgrade noted above.
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May 21st, 2007, 12:41 AM
#10
Registered User
Hi Noo Noo, I have reinstalled WIN98SE and retried the correct drivers, they keep giving me a blue screen, so I uninstalled them.
I don't know what the AGP (GART) driver is. Also, the driver from SiS has driver folders for Win 95, 98, 2000, NT and it doesn't specify 98SE in any particular folder. I was installing from the 98 folder.
DonJ, I don't have the recovery CD. The PC is a recent cheap purchase for my partners niece. I am fixing it as a favour and using my old 98SE CD.
The PC was apparently able to play games at 256 colours before, so I am not sure how they did it. Also it was playing the games on the current BIOS, so I don't think flashing the BIOS will help what is going on.
I really need to get this PC working in a minimum of 256 colours.
Any other ideas?
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May 21st, 2007, 03:32 AM
#11
Driver Terrier
Can you post the full details of the blue screen please?
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May 21st, 2007, 07:33 PM
#12
Registered User
Got an old video card kicking around?
Seriously, disabling the onboard graphics and installing a pci card that you can find the right drivers for would seem to me to be less of a hassle!
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May 22nd, 2007, 05:54 AM
#13
Registered User
Read all the information at below link.
http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_4.htm
Scroll down the page to the below statement.
If your system chipset is more earlier SiS IGP chipset, like SiS620, SiS530, SiS5598, SiS5596, while entering the SiS download center, please select Graphics Driver > Other SiS series IGP > Your Operating system, then to click “Go” will search the driver you need.
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May 23rd, 2007, 09:53 PM
#14
Registered User
I have several old graphics cards lying around Shamus, problem is, is they do not have the same pin configuration.
NooNoo, i'll get you the blue screen details as soon as I retest the drivers.
street1, they are the drivers I have been testing already
I'm thinking the BIOS upgrade might be necessary.
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May 23rd, 2007, 11:47 PM
#15
Registered User
UPDATE:
The BIOS upgrade was absolutely necessary to get the drivers working!!
Obviously the previous install was using the old chipset drivers for the old BIOS. The old chipset drivers are obviously not available any more.
Thank you very much DonJ. I updated the BIOS, installed the SiS5598 drivers and now it can run in up to 1024x768 res with true colour (24bit)
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