new phenom pc problem

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 07:38 AM

so it came away in one chunk? You might find you have a bent pin or two then

Do you have a thin plastic item that could be used to slide between the cpu and hsf? A credit card it too thick... like a dummy credit card (they are thin but quite tough). Put the hsf on it's side, holding the hsf only, slide the implement between, careful but firm pressure and have a motherboard anti static bag near the cpu side to catch it...

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

so it came away in one chunk? You might find you have a bent pin or two then

Do you have a thin plastic item that could be used to slide between the cpu and hsf? A credit card it too thick... like a dummy credit card (they are thin but quite tough). Put the hsf on it's side, holding the hsf only, slide the implement between, careful but firm pressure and have a motherboard anti static bag near the cpu side to catch it...

how the heck am i gonna straighten them? there's a couple really bent, and a few slightly leaning.

it still wont come away from the hsf. i have tried various thicknesses of card (not my credit card) and it appears there's just no leeway to stick the card into... i suppose its because the glue has been heated up and it says its semi-permanent !!!

any more ideas?

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 08:28 AM

I have found that tweezers supplied with swiss army knives are thin enough to do the job.... if you have a magnifying glass that can be held, it helps too. Pin straightening requires careful and patient concentration.

How is your wallet?

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

How is your wallet?

could be a £137 expensive lesson in how to not do a pc-build! the supplier i got it from is now showing out of stock... elsewhere its around that price with a 3-5 day wait.

while we're on the subject, why would the bios report 500gb hdd's x2 and Win-xp(when installing) reports partitionsize of max 131gb? the mobo is a rev-2 version.

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 08:59 AM

Sata or ide?

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:02 AM

You could try freezing the cpu/hsf which should make the glue brittle and then try separating... you may need a sharp rap to break the bond... I would suggest a stiff cooks' scraper, line it up carefully and then smack it with the hand.

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Sata or ide?

2x SATA 500gb drives. the bios reports correctly, 500gb; win xp says the maximum partition size for either one is only 131gb...

**CCT** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:03 AM

Is that XP SP2?

edit: straighten bent pins; http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-Bent-Pins-on-a-CPU

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by CCT

Is that XP SP2?

no. never got as far as service packs. my xp is few years old now. had it on the previous pc which i am replacing due to it breaking down.

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:04 AM

Was it an oem copy?

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Was it an oem copy?

no, a normal copy. i made up my previous pc's so having problems like these is a little embarrasing!

**CCT** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:08 AM

137 + drive support only came with SP2.

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by CCT

137 + drive support only came with SP2.

so, assuming i get this pc working again and install my copy of XP; plus the service packs, from WindowsUpdate .... would it then see the extra capacity of the hard drives and be able to partition etc?

**NooNoo** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:16 AM

Yep, so create a single partition your hd with xp setup disk and then load sp3 directly afterwards. I keep it on an usb stick - easy that way, then get your drivers and windows updates. Then partition the rest of the drive. I wouldn't have more than 50 gig partition for xp and move my docs to another partition... that way you keep most of your user data off the system drive.... you can also move your email and templates.

**Mr_Miyagi** · January 2nd, 2009, 09:21 AM

lol

gotta get a (new) cpu first...!!!!

update:

as i had nothing to lose, i decided to use the tim clean fluid around the cpu and hsf to see if it would loosen up the cpu - and voila, it did. the cpu is now hsf free but with bent pins. really dont know how i will straighten them up because i dont have tweezers /and or magnifying glasses / steady hand....!! lol

cant do anything with the hsf / cpu until the thermal grease comes on monday.