Doubts about SATA 2.0, 3.0 and 1.0

**quato is alive** · April 14th, 2010, 12:57 PM

I see myself in the need to buy a new hard disk and all the disk around the market here are SATA 3.0, somewhere I've read there wasn't a problem connecting disks sata 2.0 to mothers 1.0 or 3.0 to 2.0 for that case but didn't know about 3.0 vs 1.0; today called one of the vendors and asked him if there was any problem connecting one of these disk to an old mother, he said it was possible but not advisable as the mother was going to kill the disk very soon..

Is that true?

**slgrieb** · April 14th, 2010, 10:57 PM

A new SATA drive will work fine with an older mainboard, but you won't get the maximum performance that the drive could deliver on a newer board with full support for newer SATA specs. But, that won't damage the drive at all.

**quato is alive** · April 15th, 2010, 06:15 AM

Phew...! Thanks slgrieb, that is what i thought, but better be sure before calling the vendor back to advice him what to do with their disks!!

Now completely off topic, I think i need some kind of prize... 3 posts in 6 years? :P

**Platypus** · April 15th, 2010, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by quato is alive

3 posts in 6 years? :P

At least we know you're alive!

**Ferrit** · April 15th, 2010, 08:50 AM

There are Sata 3 hard drives available?

**CeeBee** · April 15th, 2010, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrit

There are Sata 3 hard drives available?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...TA%206.0Gb%2fs

**quato is alive** · April 16th, 2010, 02:51 PM

Wait... those are SATA 3? I thought they were SATA II 6.0 ... this is getting to complicated for simple minds like mine... there are days I miss my old x286 with that lovely ESDI hard disk of 10 Mb... talking of new disks and old motherboards

Originally Posted by Platypus

At least we know you're alive!

Not a concern back in 2004 but nowadays ....

But for sure my amount of posts doesn't reflect the use I've done of these forums

**Guts3d** · April 18th, 2010, 08:23 AM

Damn, now I want to buy a new drive...

**quato is alive** · April 19th, 2010, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Guts3d

Damn, now I want to buy a new drive...

In the case you are using a P4V8X-X Assus mother, DON'T do it!! :P

Bought a 500 Gig disk, Samsung HD502IJ to be exact and there is no way my mother will recognize it, reading the manual it mentions that some old mothers could have problems to communicate with these disks so samsung provide with a soft to make the disk work at 1.5 gigasomething... , I'm yet to find this soft and still wonder how it will work due to the fact the BIOS doesn't see the disk at all.. :/

**geoscomp** · April 20th, 2010, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by quato is alive

In the case you are using a P4V8X-X Assus mother, DON'T do it!! :P

Bought a 500 Gig disk, Samsung HD502IJ to be exact and there is no way my mother will recognize it, reading the manual it mentions that some old mothers could have problems to communicate with these disks so samsung provide with a soft to make the disk work at 1.5 gigasomething... , I'm yet to find this soft and still wonder how it will work due to the fact the BIOS doesn't see the disk at all.. :/

I think what you are referring to isn't software, but rather a speed drop to 1.5 Gb/s..it's done by a jumper on the drive and is detailed here:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...ATA_eng_r4.pdf

**quato is alive** · April 21st, 2010, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by geoscomp

I think what you are referring to isn't software, but rather a speed drop to 1.5 Gb/s..it's done by a jumper on the drive and is detailed here:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...ATA_eng_r4.pdf

Thanks geoscomp! I was looking for that jumper, but the very manual of the disk speaks of a software here: HD502IJ Manual

Anyway as i saw the jumpers on the disk i already tried

but the disk keep failing to initialize.

If you look at the manual in my link you will notice there is described a PATA installation, weird considering the disk doesn't come with PATA connectors.

Now im considering upgrading my pc to at least 2007 standards..

and be able to use a new disk!

**quato is alive** · April 28th, 2010, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by quato is alive

Now im considering upgrading my pc to at least 2007 standards..

and be able to use a new disk!

Upgraded the pc, another assus motherboard sata 3.0 compliant, dont remember the model with a core 2 duo something, the new disk works perfect but now the old ones aren't recognized at all, whats more one of the disks does a not so funny click-clock sound when attached, and this one wasn't the faulty disk i started with.

It seems I offended some ancient gods of hardware to get all this sort of disk incompatibilities. Will update if i get a work around of this odd problem...

"Click - Clock" *facepalm*

**Matridom** · April 28th, 2010, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by quato is alive

Upgraded the pc, another assus motherboard sata 3.0 compliant, dont remember the model with a core 2 duo something, the new disk works perfect but now the old ones aren't recognized at all, whats more one of the disks does a not so funny click-clock sound when attached, and this one wasn't the faulty disk i started with.

It seems I offended some ancient gods of hardware to get all this sort of disk incompatibilities. Will update if i get a work around of this odd problem...

"Click - Clock" *facepalm*

I've found often that moving older hard drives will sometimes kill them, specialy if they are well used (one 24/7).

That's how my data drive died. I had disconnected it to use the cable to recover data off a different drive. When reconnected, the HDD would not show up.. it was dead.

**quato is alive** · May 7th, 2010, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Matridom

I've found often that moving older hard drives will sometimes kill them, specialy if they are well used (one 24/7).

That's how my data drive died. I had disconnected it to use the cable to recover data off a different drive. When reconnected, the HDD would not show up.. it was dead.

I'm sorry but those disks are far from dead, they will be dead when the interior pieces will be used as decorative shiny things... now they are just resting for a while...