Batch File rookie with an idea - Page 2

*NooNoo* · June 25th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Robocopy is part of Win7 and Vista...

Niclo Iste · June 25th, 2009, 04:50 PM

I never used it before and wasn't aware it was native to those OSes. Though it wouldn't help me on the majority xp machines I still service.

*NooNoo* · June 25th, 2009, 05:47 PM

True, but it won't be long before you are going to be seeing a lot of Win7 machines, so you may as well play with it.

Niclo Iste · June 25th, 2009, 06:22 PM

lol why must you always be right? I think I'm just a sucker for the old ways and that's why I'm so stubborn. Semi off topic but I'm trying to keep a collection of tools that would be handy in the command prompt and dos since I find they tend to be a more stable work around when infections and such arise. Sooner or later I'm going to attempt making a dos booting thumb drive just for fixing infections that way. Maybe I should start a thread asking how to do that. Or maybe there is something you can point me towards that might teach me neat dos commands and tricks. The biggest I'm interested in is how to utilize an active internet connection while in a dos environment to access and download updates or files I need.

*NooNoo* · June 25th, 2009, 07:13 PM

OK stop there.... you are confusing DOS (an operating system that had 7 major versions) and the command line available in the NT based OSes. Do not confuse the two... you will wind up in version hell.

Unless you are doing a lot of 98 or ME, forget DOS and look up recovery console. Learn command line and powershell.

Win7 gets sold for $50 for the next few weeks.... you are not going to get a lot of 98 and ME stuff....

Niclo Iste · June 25th, 2009, 07:23 PM

I never had much success with the recovery console allowing me to explore the directory trees and move files around. So I always figured it was a limited environment. That's why I'm looking into most of this. Generally I'd rather fix the system without having to load the GUI/windows. It always was much easier back in the win98 days to start in dos and fix windows files. I'm trying to recreate that and have some extra utilities for newer systems.

*NooNoo* · June 26th, 2009, 04:18 AM

Well you can go to safemode command line, but it still is not DOS!
Recovery console is limited - you can turn off services, copy or delete files, set attributes etc.

here is a list for command line commands As you can see, it does a lot more than DOS ever did... but it is just that - command line version of what you can do through the GUI.

El_Squid · October 14th, 2009, 01:17 PM

Gawds, I miss deltree!

Niclo Iste · October 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM

You and I both El_Squid!

By the way, thanks for replying to this I wasn't aware that NooNoo had put a link up for those commands.

CeeBee · October 14th, 2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Squid

Gawds, I miss deltree!

rmdir [Drive:]Path [/s] [/q]

Matridom · October 15th, 2009, 08:56 AM

How about a linux Live CD or bootable USB stick with a *nix distro on it?

It will read NTFS, by-pass all permissions, and you can script commands fairly easy in the bash shell. Finally, since it's *nix, it will probably be immune to the virus on the system you are cleaning.

Niclo Iste · October 15th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matridom

How about a linux Live CD or bootable USB stick with a *nix distro on it?

It will read NTFS, by-pass all permissions, and you can script commands fairly easy in the bash shell. Finally, since it's *nix, it will probably be immune to the virus on the system you are cleaning.

Hmm it's plausible but I need dos or the command prompt to run the antispyware and andivirus tools I have.

Matridom · October 16th, 2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niclo Iste

Hmm it's plausible but I need dos or the command prompt to run the antispyware and andivirus tools I have.

I was making the assumption that if the system is so bad that you are resorting to a command shell to recover files, you would be re-formating the system.

Also as it's been stated earlier, there is no DOS in windows 2k and beyond. With XP/vista, I would say the majority of drives are formated NTFS, that means that your boot disks to dos won't be able to read the drive regardless to clean.

I find that if you can't clean it from inside of windows, the OS is too far gone to recover and you are re-installing.

June 25th, 2009, 02:08 PM	#16
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	Robocopy is part of Win7 and Vista... __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

June 25th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#17
Niclo Iste Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pgh, PA Posts: 1,043	I never used it before and wasn't aware it was native to those OSes. Though it wouldn't help me on the majority xp machines I still service. __________________ Never do today what you can put off tomorrow.

June 25th, 2009, 05:47 PM	#18
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	True, but it won't be long before you are going to be seeing a lot of Win7 machines, so you may as well play with it. __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

June 25th, 2009, 06:22 PM	#19
Niclo Iste Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pgh, PA Posts: 1,043	lol why must you always be right? I think I'm just a sucker for the old ways and that's why I'm so stubborn. Semi off topic but I'm trying to keep a collection of tools that would be handy in the command prompt and dos since I find they tend to be a more stable work around when infections and such arise. Sooner or later I'm going to attempt making a dos booting thumb drive just for fixing infections that way. Maybe I should start a thread asking how to do that. Or maybe there is something you can point me towards that might teach me neat dos commands and tricks. The biggest I'm interested in is how to utilize an active internet connection while in a dos environment to access and download updates or files I need. __________________ Never do today what you can put off tomorrow.

June 25th, 2009, 07:13 PM	#20
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	OK stop there.... you are confusing DOS (an operating system that had 7 major versions) and the command line available in the NT based OSes. Do not confuse the two... you will wind up in version hell. Unless you are doing a lot of 98 or ME, forget DOS and look up recovery console. Learn command line and powershell. Win7 gets sold for $50 for the next few weeks.... you are not going to get a lot of 98 and ME stuff.... __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

June 25th, 2009, 07:23 PM	#21
Niclo Iste Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pgh, PA Posts: 1,043	I never had much success with the recovery console allowing me to explore the directory trees and move files around. So I always figured it was a limited environment. That's why I'm looking into most of this. Generally I'd rather fix the system without having to load the GUI/windows. It always was much easier back in the win98 days to start in dos and fix windows files. I'm trying to recreate that and have some extra utilities for newer systems. __________________ Never do today what you can put off tomorrow. Last edited by Niclo Iste; June 25th, 2009 at 07:25 PM. Reason: added details

June 26th, 2009, 04:18 AM	#22
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	Well you can go to safemode command line, but it still is not DOS! Recovery console is limited - you can turn off services, copy or delete files, set attributes etc. here is a list for command line commands As you can see, it does a lot more than DOS ever did... but it is just that - command line version of what you can do through the GUI. __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

October 14th, 2009, 01:17 PM	#23
El_Squid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 1,891	Gawds, I miss deltree! __________________ See you on the other side.

October 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM	#24
Niclo Iste Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pgh, PA Posts: 1,043	You and I both El_Squid! By the way, thanks for replying to this I wasn't aware that NooNoo had put a link up for those commands. __________________ Never do today what you can put off tomorrow.

October 15th, 2009, 08:56 AM	#26
Matridom Chat Operator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,673	How about a linux Live CD or bootable USB stick with a nix distro on it? It will read NTFS, by-pass all permissions, and you can script commands fairly easy in the bash shell. Finally, since it's nix, it will probably be immune to the virus on the system you are cleaning. __________________ <Ferrit> Take 1 live chicken, cut the head off, dance around doing the hokey pokey and chanting: GO AWAY BAD VIRUS, GO AWAY BAD VIRUS visit my site at www.matridom.ca

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