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Old February 10th, 2001, 06:58 AM   #1
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Question can a router connect to a network hub?

The guys and I plan to have a council at my partners house who has road runner. We all have network cards, and he has a hub, but only 8 ports on it and there will be 9-10 of us there with our systems...wondering if we should use a router to the hub, or just go get another hub.. Any suggestions???

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Old February 10th, 2001, 08:36 AM   #2
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you can do it either way. If you run to 100mbs hubs uplinked as long as they are 100mbs they will still transfere inbetween at 100mbs if you run more than 2 upplinked they act as class b repeaters and the speed will drop to 10mbs between the hubs. If dosent help tell me and I will explain any other questions. X

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Old February 15th, 2001, 04:44 PM   #3
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You might want to consider switches instead of hubs, especially if you will be using File & Printer Sharing. A switch will allow you to use Full Duplex (more or less giving you 200 Mbps), and will seperate traffic between different machines. They also break most packet sniffers, since they filter out everything not intended for a particular machine.

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Old February 18th, 2001, 01:42 PM   #4
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hook the road runner to a router and link a switch to that ( a 4 port router with 4 8 port switches will let everyone on the street plug in..

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Old February 18th, 2001, 04:03 PM   #5
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cable modem tech is right,the router is the way to go. using just hubs, theres no way your goin go pull enough ip's for everyone. the beauty of using a router (linksys is a good one) is you'll only be pulling 1 ip from the outside, and your router can be a dhcp server and distribute up to 254 internal addresses.
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Old February 19th, 2001, 06:17 AM   #6
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Go with the LinkSYS router they have router that will assign IP adresses for your network.
Cable Modem to Router
Router to up link port on your Hub.
Install TCP/IP use automatic ip adress for IP.

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Old February 19th, 2001, 01:43 PM   #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cable Modem Tech:
hook the road runner to a router and link a switch to that ( a 4 port router with 4 8 port switches will let everyone on the street plug in..

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Old February 19th, 2001, 01:52 PM   #8
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I use a linksys 1 port router linked to a 8 port 10/100 hub. I use the linksys as my dhcp server and it works just fine that way.

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Old February 19th, 2001, 03:56 PM   #9
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Well I just talked to RoadRunner when they were setting up their service in a site I provide service for and their modems acatually grab and ip for security and they have to change ip every ten days for securty so they said the only router you can run on their service is a cisco with the ios that can support this. So they install a br904 and I configured it acordingly. Has anyone here actually got a linksys or some other cheapo router working on RR's Service? X

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Old February 19th, 2001, 05:46 PM   #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kamuelajedi:
The guys and I plan to have a council at my partners house who has road runner. We all have network cards, and he has a hub, but only 8 ports on it and there will be 9-10 of us there with our systems...wondering if we should use a router to the hub, or just go get another hub.. Any suggestions???

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Definitely use a router...make sure it supports assigning DHCP addresses though (Amazing that those little dinky cheapo routers can do something that a Cisco can't, isn't it?). A 4 or 5 port should be sufficient. If you insist on using a hub make sure it's a 100 Fast Ethernet hub. I personally would prefer to just use a router with as many ports on it as possible...they make 5 port broadband routers, and the ports are sometimes switched (meaning everyone gets full LAN bandwidth)

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Old February 20th, 2001, 10:50 AM   #11
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A linksys router can grap an ip from another server if they are using dhcp and I think bootp but not too sure.

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Old February 20th, 2001, 11:00 AM   #12
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There is no reason that you cannot use a linksys router with roadrunner - every DHCP server refreshes the lease after a specified ammount of time - I use proxy server at home with Road Runner and it works great to run many machines through one IP address. I know several others who use the linksys and have no problems.

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Old February 20th, 2001, 03:32 PM   #13
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Well I dealt with a location in TX two weeks ago and I talked to RRs tech support to have him telent in and turn off dhcp so that I could set this network up I asked him specifically about why i couldnt use a lowend router "NETGERAR" wouldnt use linksys for a doorstop. Anyway he said that the modem pulls and Ip every 10 days and that by this they have to have specific a router for some sucurity bs bla bla bla well it didnt sound right to me either but i let them hit this lady for the $700 for a br904. Well I just called this guy back cause i wanted a better explination. Well he wasnt there but I got someone that actually knew what he was talking about now. He told me that the modem i forgot the brand anyway it pulls an IP makes sense then it grabs another and forwards it to the set or router what ever is behind the modem now I understand what was up with RR. Needless to say RR has the worst support site for trying to find info on, when needing to find something out. So I appologize for my incorrect post about not being able to use cheap routers on their service. Thanks ...cyberhh.... for making me question this and looking into it deeper. I never thoght it made sense but this lady had been getting screwed around by them for 3 days so I wanted to do anything to get her up as quick as possible. X

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