[RESOLVED] Slow Boot

October 5th, 2001, 02:04 AM

I've been running WinXP for some time now, and have one small problem with it. Boot times are awfully slow. Now, I'm not saying from POST to desktop is slow, that comes in at around 23 seconds. But once it reaches the desktop, it takes at least 1:30 before I can actually do anything. Norton Antivirus sits there disabled, anything I click waits that long before initially opening, nothing happens at all for a full minute and a half after getting to the desktop.

Once that point is reached, the system runs like a top. But it's kinda stupid to be sitting waiting for two minutes from the time I turn my machine on to the time I can actually do anything on it.

Help, please!

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October 5th, 2001, 02:01 PM

they key is to check whats running in the back ground .. you maybe surprised .. not just from the startup menu .. but from the registery .. id suggest that .. also removed some icons frokm the desktop to like maybe 5-10 .. and defrag also will help

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jbar1 · October 5th, 2001, 04:56 PM

If your are running NTFS file system then it is not unusual for this to take place. The faster system is win32 file sys.

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October 5th, 2001, 06:21 PM

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<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by jbar1:
If your are running NTFS file system then it is not unusual for this to take place. The faster system is win32 file sys.

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There is no such thing as the "win32" file system. There is a FAT32 file system, and NO it is not as fast as NTFS. NTFS was designed from the ground up to be fast on drives as big as 2TB. FAT32 gets significantly slower for larger drives.

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October 5th, 2001, 08:42 PM

Also following JvaGuy's suggestions, be sure to check what services are running on start-up. These are usually the memory killers and CPU hogs. Usually, 50% of them are things you aren't going to use anyway. Just be careful, you might kill a vital service that something else depends on.

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October 5th, 2001, 10:01 PM

Also disable any toolbars that you don;t use often on your taskbar, as you will be suprised how much resources these use (i.e. Quick Launch, Address bar, etc)

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October 5th, 2001, 10:27 PM

OK, for programs I have loading on startup, I only have NAV2002 running. I keep everything else at a bare minimum. I have 20 processes running at startup, which is 4 more than my wife has running on her machine at startup.

I am also using ICS on this machine to share the DSL connection with hers.

Since ICS is the only difference between our machines, could this be the cause? And why would it cause my machine to load 4 more processes than hers? (Wish I could look at what hers are compared to mine, but her PSU died tonight.)

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October 6th, 2001, 02:37 AM

One thing that might have been overlooked.How much memory do you have in your machine?

October 6th, 2001, 09:39 AM

I have 512MB DDR in the machine. It shouldn't be a memory problem.

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October 6th, 2001, 02:07 PM

Actually, I have had that problem in Win2000. It would load up, but it would take about a minute before I can access any icons. Also I noticed XP runs slow on a lot of machines, except mine. Most new computers I set up are slow as hell, even with a lot of memory. Goes to show you never buy a premanufactured system. Add another user and see if that login has the same problem with loading up.

October 7th, 2001, 03:24 AM

I also had this problem under Win2K. In all other respects, XP is fast as hell on this machine. I have 4 other user accounts on this machine (family) and each of them behaves the same. This is not a pre-manufactured machine. It's home built from the ground up.

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confus-ed · October 7th, 2001, 08:48 PM

ICS! If the client machine isn't on when you boot then your machine will wait to see if there is one lurking somewhere, and keep looking everytime there is some change to your network status, which I think is at least three times during boot. Now how you change the appropriate timeout value is another matter!

October 5th, 2001, 02:04 AM	#1
ThunderVamp9 Guest Posts: n/a	Slow Boot I've been running WinXP for some time now, and have one small problem with it. Boot times are awfully slow. Now, I'm not saying from POST to desktop is slow, that comes in at around 23 seconds. But once it reaches the desktop, it takes at least 1:30 before I can actually do anything. Norton Antivirus sits there disabled, anything I click waits that long before initially opening, nothing happens at all for a full minute and a half after getting to the desktop. Once that point is reached, the system runs like a top. But it's kinda stupid to be sitting waiting for two minutes from the time I turn my machine on to the time I can actually do anything on it. Help, please! ------------------ *We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. We will add your technology to our own...*

October 5th, 2001, 04:56 PM	#3
jbar1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Isleton, Calif, USA Posts: 463	If your are running NTFS file system then it is not unusual for this to take place. The faster system is win32 file sys. ------------------ Hey! I'm all right, The world is all wrong..... __________________ If life is a bitch, then what is death? I believe that I will take the bitch...

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October 5th, 2001, 02:01 PM	#2
Jvaguy Guest Posts: n/a	they key is to check whats running in the back ground .. you maybe surprised .. not just from the startup menu .. but from the registery .. id suggest that .. also removed some icons frokm the desktop to like maybe 5-10 .. and defrag also will help ------------------ Asus A7V266, AMD 1100 ( C series), 72x Kenwood CD, 8x4x32 Hp 9100I, ATI Radeon AGP 4x, ATA 100 (7200 RPM) 30gig, ATA 100 (7200 RPM) 13gig, 392mb pc2100 DDR RAM, Sound Blaster Live X-Gamer, Netgear 100-TX NIC

October 5th, 2001, 08:42 PM	#5
Cobra Guest Posts: n/a	Also following JvaGuy's suggestions, be sure to check what services are running on start-up. These are usually the memory killers and CPU hogs. Usually, 50% of them are things you aren't going to use anyway. Just be careful, you might kill a vital service that something else depends on. ------------------ "Black in the Sun What have I done? I feel so bad I feel so numb" Rob Zombie - "Feel So Numb"

October 5th, 2001, 10:01 PM	#6
Darren Wilson Guest Posts: n/a	Also disable any toolbars that you don;t use often on your taskbar, as you will be suprised how much resources these use (i.e. Quick Launch, Address bar, etc) ------------------ System Specs Abit KT7A-RAID (Rock F'n Solid!!!) - AMD Athlon 1Ghz (10x100) - 1024Mb PC133 SDRAM - ATI Radeon (AGP4X) - Maxtor ATA100 30Gb - 2 x Seagate ATA66 (RAID 0 totalling 26Gb) - Toshiba SD-1202M DVD - Plextor PlexWriter 2410A (Buy One!!!!) - Creative Labs SB Live! Value (No Pops , Hiss or Crackles here) - 20" Eizo Flexscan Monitor - Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM Final Release

October 5th, 2001, 10:27 PM	#7
ThunderVamp9 Guest Posts: n/a	OK, for programs I have loading on startup, I only have NAV2002 running. I keep everything else at a bare minimum. I have 20 processes running at startup, which is 4 more than my wife has running on her machine at startup. I am also using ICS on this machine to share the DSL connection with hers. Since ICS is the only difference between our machines, could this be the cause? And why would it cause my machine to load 4 more processes than hers? (Wish I could look at what hers are compared to mine, but her PSU died tonight.) ------------------ *We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. We will add your technology to our own...*

October 6th, 2001, 02:37 AM	#8
DJSEARCHING Guest Posts: n/a	One thing that might have been overlooked.How much memory do you have in your machine?

October 6th, 2001, 09:39 AM	#9
ThunderVamp9 Guest Posts: n/a	I have 512MB DDR in the machine. It shouldn't be a memory problem. ------------------ *We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. We will add your technology to our own...*

October 6th, 2001, 02:07 PM	#10
Breakbeat Bob Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, I have had that problem in Win2000. It would load up, but it would take about a minute before I can access any icons. Also I noticed XP runs slow on a lot of machines, except mine. Most new computers I set up are slow as hell, even with a lot of memory. Goes to show you never buy a premanufactured system. Add another user and see if that login has the same problem with loading up.

October 7th, 2001, 03:24 AM	#11
ThunderVamp9 Guest Posts: n/a	I also had this problem under Win2K. In all other respects, XP is fast as hell on this machine. I have 4 other user accounts on this machine (family) and each of them behaves the same. This is not a pre-manufactured machine. It's home built from the ground up. ------------------ *We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. We will add your technology to our own...*

October 7th, 2001, 08:48 PM	#12
confus-ed Geezer Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: In front of my PC.... Posts: 13,091	ICS! If the client machine isn't on when you boot then your machine will wait to see if there is one lurking somewhere, and keep looking everytime there is some change to your network status, which I think is at least three times during boot. Now how you change the appropriate timeout value is another matter!