CHESS Tutorial (open) - adept VS Noonoo

Stalemate · July 6th, 2002, 09:04 AM

<h3>This informal game is intended to expand on strategy basics.
Everyone's comments are welcome.
Feel free to make your suggestions to either player.</h3>
<img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/sboisvert/images/noo.jpg" alt=" - " />

Matridom · July 6th, 2002, 09:29 AM

here, there are several choices. Opening is sometimes the most important part of the game.

Now you can either move your knights out to try and hold back the pawn's. You can also move up your king pawn to match adept, or sacrifice your queen pawn to put adept off his feet. (for queen pawn) If he takes you, you move your queen up, if not, then you can move that pawn forward again or take his pawn, gaining more control of the board. The King pawn is the more conservative move, the Queen pawn is a bolder, risker move.

*NooNoo* · July 6th, 2002, 10:01 AM

Ummm, can I turn the board round?

OK Mat, thanks for the advice, I am gonna jump in with both feet, move the Queen Pawn up two - from D7 to D5

On a side note, why not move a pawn that allows you to get a bishop out first?

Draggar · July 6th, 2002, 10:16 AM

<img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/sboisvert/images/noo.jpg" alt=" - " />

Fool's mate from here:
(All white moves)

After the pawn is moved, they move the Queen to H5.

Then , you move the Bishop (on F1) to C4.

Then, the kill Move the queen to F7.
Instant Checkmate in 4 moves.

**EDIT**
Now, if certain moves are made by plack, it can completely destroy the chance of a Fool's mate. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Matridom · July 6th, 2002, 10:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by NooNoo:
On a side note, why not move a pawn that allows you to get a bishop out first?<hr /></blockquote>Either king pawn or queen pawn allows you to get a bishop out. The queen pawn also allows you to get the queen out sooner and hopefully more controll of the board. (but so does the qking pawn)

The difference is mainly a slow fortification, or a set of skirmishs.. With the taking of pieces early like this you are making the centre of the board open. You get the chance to make a few piece controling the board more efective, and your also keeping things clear for the larger pieces to have more sway. That type of game the pace can change dramaticly.

*NooNoo* · July 6th, 2002, 12:18 PM

Hmmm I guess I meant the pawns at B and G...

Any who, lets see if this works

<img src="http://ftb.dns2go.com/chess1.jpg" alt=" - " />

DiR[ëctory] · July 6th, 2002, 10:59 PM

i think he may take you now noo noo...

cc_penguin · July 6th, 2002, 11:45 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
i think he may take you now noo noo...<hr /></blockquote>That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king...

DiR[ëctory] · July 7th, 2002, 12:33 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cc_penguin:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
i think he may take you now noo noo...<hr /></blockquote>That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king...<hr /></blockquote>too early in the game to be threatened

*NooNoo* · July 7th, 2002, 08:17 AM

fun fun fun!

cc_penguin · July 7th, 2002, 08:53 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cc_penguin:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]:
i think he may take you now noo noo...<hr /></blockquote>That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king...<hr /></blockquote>too early in the game to be threatened

<hr /></blockquote>Dont forget that there is a possiblitly of Checkmate in four moves.... its never too early

Draggar · July 7th, 2002, 11:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cc_penguin:
Dont forget that there is a possiblitly of Checkmate in four moves.... its never too early<hr /></blockquote>Thats the "fools mate" I posted earlier...

But one or two moves can really mess it up, and leave you wide open.

Poseidon · July 7th, 2002, 02:31 PM

This shall to prove quite interesting and entertaining. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by NooNoo:
Ummm, can I turn the board round?

<hr /></blockquote>Btw - click the Rotate button/icon to get a better perspective.

Stalemate · July 8th, 2002, 12:35 PM

Thanks for all the comments folks.

It's great to see so much participation.

I apologize for the delay, but my weekend was so hectic that coming in to work today was actually relaxing!

So, since <a href="http://www.chesscorner.com/tutorial/basic/scholars/scholars.htm" target="_blank">this trick</a> has already been compromised, I'll have to change my overall strategy!

2w. Nc3

Reason:
Developping my knight at c3 targets the d5 pawn at its current position while also covering e4 if Noonoo feels a bit aggressive. Should d4 be played instead, that may throw me off balance for a couple of moves but I'm relatively confident that I'll be in a better position after the altercation.

*NooNoo* · July 8th, 2002, 12:53 PM

Hmmmm.... so the board looks like this... N stands for Knight?

<img src="http://ftb.dns2go.com/chess2.jpg" alt=" - " />

July 6th, 2002, 09:04 AM	#1
Stalemate Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: d4-e5 Posts: 15,085	CHESS Tutorial (open) - adept VS Noonoo <h3>This informal game is intended to expand on strategy basics. Everyone's comments are welcome. Feel free to make your suggestions to either player.</h3> <img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/sboisvert/images/noo.jpg" alt=" - " /> __________________ Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. *-Douglas Adams*

July 6th, 2002, 09:29 AM	#2
Matridom Chat Operator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,673	here, there are several choices. Opening is sometimes the most important part of the game. Now you can either move your knights out to try and hold back the pawn's. You can also move up your king pawn to match adept, or sacrifice your queen pawn to put adept off his feet. (for queen pawn) If he takes you, you move your queen up, if not, then you can move that pawn forward again or take his pawn, gaining more control of the board. The King pawn is the more conservative move, the Queen pawn is a bolder, risker move. __________________ <Ferrit> Take 1 live chicken, cut the head off, dance around doing the hokey pokey and chanting: GO AWAY BAD VIRUS, GO AWAY BAD VIRUS visit my site at www.matridom.ca

July 6th, 2002, 10:01 AM	#3
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	Ummm, can I turn the board round? OK Mat, thanks for the advice, I am gonna jump in with both feet, move the Queen Pawn up two - from D7 to D5 On a side note, why not move a pawn that allows you to get a bishop out first? __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

July 6th, 2002, 10:16 AM	#4
Draggar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Lah-di-dah, FL Posts: 2,679	<img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/sboisvert/images/noo.jpg" alt=" - " /> Fool's mate from here: (All white moves) After the pawn is moved, they move the Queen to H5. Then , you move the Bishop (on F1) to C4. Then, the kill Move the queen to F7. Instant Checkmate in 4 moves. EDIT Now, if certain moves are made by plack, it can completely destroy the chance of a Fool's mate. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> __________________ Live Free or Die Never forget, never lose those who have been lost. My Malinois is smarter than your honor roll student!

July 6th, 2002, 10:27 AM	#5
Matridom Chat Operator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,673	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NooNoo: <strong>On a side note, why not move a pawn that allows you to get a bishop out first?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Either king pawn or queen pawn allows you to get a bishop out. The queen pawn also allows you to get the queen out sooner and hopefully more controll of the board. (but so does the qking pawn) The difference is mainly a slow fortification, or a set of skirmishs.. With the taking of pieces early like this you are making the centre of the board open. You get the chance to make a few piece controling the board more efective, and your also keeping things clear for the larger pieces to have more sway. That type of game the pace can change dramaticly. __________________ <Ferrit> Take 1 live chicken, cut the head off, dance around doing the hokey pokey and chanting: GO AWAY BAD VIRUS, GO AWAY BAD VIRUS visit my site at www.matridom.ca

July 6th, 2002, 12:18 PM	#6
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	Hmmm I guess I meant the pawns at B and G... Any who, lets see if this works <img src="http://ftb.dns2go.com/chess1.jpg" alt=" - " /> __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

July 6th, 2002, 10:59 PM	#7
DiR[ëctory] Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: third house on the right Posts: 1,058	i think he may take you now noo noo... __________________ (_\|_) I AM EDITED BY WEBHEAD (_\|_)

July 6th, 2002, 11:45 PM	#8
cc_penguin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC, USA Posts: 1,327	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]: <strong>i think he may take you now noo noo...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king... __________________ *Edited by Sowulo* Thanks to A d e p t for the avatar!!!! Im done here

July 7th, 2002, 12:33 AM	#9
DiR[ëctory] Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: third house on the right Posts: 1,058	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cc_penguin: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]: <strong>i think he may take you now noo noo...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">too early in the game to be threatened __________________ (_\|_) I AM EDITED BY WEBHEAD (_\|_)

July 7th, 2002, 08:17 AM	#10
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	fun fun fun! __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

July 7th, 2002, 08:53 AM	#11
cc_penguin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC, USA Posts: 1,327	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cc_penguin: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]: <strong>i think he may take you now noo noo...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">That wouldnt be wise on his part as that would leave an open in on his king...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">too early in the game to be threatened </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dont forget that there is a possiblitly of Checkmate in four moves.... its never too early __________________ *Edited by Sowulo* Thanks to A d e p t for the avatar!!!! Im done here

July 7th, 2002, 11:17 AM	#12
Draggar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Lah-di-dah, FL Posts: 2,679	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cc_penguin: <strong>Dont forget that there is a possiblitly of Checkmate in four moves.... its never too early</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thats the "fools mate" I posted earlier... But one or two moves can really mess it up, and leave you wide open. __________________ Live Free or Die Never forget, never lose those who have been lost. My Malinois is smarter than your honor roll student!

July 7th, 2002, 02:31 PM	#13
Poseidon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 1,744	This shall to prove quite interesting and entertaining. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NooNoo: <strong>Ummm, can I turn the board round? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Btw - click the Rotate button/icon to get a better perspective. __________________ *Edited by Sowulo* All Lies Lead to the Truth

July 8th, 2002, 12:35 PM	#14
Stalemate Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: d4-e5 Posts: 15,085	Thanks for all the comments folks. It's great to see so much participation. I apologize for the delay, but my weekend was so hectic that coming in to work today was actually relaxing! So, since <a href="http://www.chesscorner.com/tutorial/basic/scholars/scholars.htm" target="_blank">this trick</a> has already been compromised, I'll have to change my overall strategy! 2w. Nc3 Reason: Developping my knight at c3 targets the d5 pawn at its current position while also covering e4 if Noonoo feels a bit aggressive. Should d4 be played instead, that may throw me off balance for a couple of moves but I'm relatively confident that I'll be in a better position after the altercation. __________________ Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. *-Douglas Adams*

July 8th, 2002, 12:53 PM	#15
NooNoo Driver Terrier Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 31,622	Hmmmm.... so the board looks like this... N stands for Knight? <img src="http://ftb.dns2go.com/chess2.jpg" alt=" - " /> __________________ Never, ever approach a computer saying or even thinking "I will just do this quickly."

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