Internet Sharing in Win98

[JaxSon]

Ok, here we go...
I have a Pentium Desktop running Win98 and IE 6.0. It has my primary printer and internet connection.

I also have a Gateway Solo 9500 Notebook running Win98 SE and IE 6.0. I have successfully networked these two together via 10/100 Ethernet which enables me to share files and print out to my primary printer.

The Notebook running Win98 SE has an option for Internet Sharing. The Desktop running Win98 does not have that option.

How can I get my Desktop to allow my Notebook to get on the Internet? Or, can it even be done?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!

[Poseidon]

ICS is a feature included in Win98 SE.

Which version of Win98 is on your desktop?

An alternative would be to use third party software.
A free ultility from Analog X:Proxy that will let you share one internet connection between multiple computers.

[Garak]

set the pc without net access's internet explorer to search net over lan and in tcp/ip setting put your main pc's ip address into the gateway - worked for me...

sorry if it isnt explained very well..

G.

[kato2274]

Originally posted by Poseidon
ICS is a feature included in Win98 SE.

Which version of Win98 is on your desktop?

An alternative would be to use third party software.
A free ultility from Analog X:Proxy that will let you share one internet connection between multiple computers.

for cable or dsl I'm with posedon on analog x proxy. It's small and reliable. It's only downside is that it won't auto dial a modem. ICS is buggy and IMO difficult to troubleshoot. (everything can be configured perfectly and the stupid thing won't work)

another option for more tech savvy users is to use an old computer and a routing linux distribution like smoothwall to setup a hardware router. It's a free project if you have old hardware laying around, and it's rock solid reliable. (It's what I use at home.)

and last option of course is to buy a router/switch from best buy / compusa like models from dlink or linksys.

[JaxSon]

Well, it looks like the Analog X Proxy worked just fine. I had to go into the Readme file for directions on setting up the IP addresses, ports, etc. then reboot both machines. And now, it seems to be working great.

Thanks for the quick responses guys...you're all GRRRRREAT!!!

[JaxSon]

Well, hell...
Now it seems that I can't check my email through Proxy. Does anybody have any tips that weren't included in the Readme file? I have tried everything but it still times out trying to connect to the server. How can that be? The server it's trying to connect to is the Desktop. I can access the internet through the Desktop with no probs.
I'm using Outlook Express 6.0 as my email program.
Please, somebody help me!!! I'm sure I'm doing something wrong...

[imaeditedbysowulo]

You have to enable mail through AnalogX proxy and enter in the address of your ISP's pop and smtp server. Then on the client machine, you use your 'gateway' pc's IP address as both the pop and smtp server address for you mail.

[JaxSon]

Thanks ima...
but I've done all that.

Desktop's IP is 10.0.0.1. Laptop is 10.0.0.2. I can ping each other without any problems.

On the Desktop running Proxy, I have configured all of my email addresses and servers properly for my ISP. I have doublechecked and triplechecked.
On the Laptop, I have both of the pop3 servers and smtp servers set to 10.0.0.1.

The Proxy icon in the tray is green...which is good. Red is bad.

BTW, when I try to send mail out from the Laptop, it appears to go out...the Norton AV kicks in and says it's being scanned prior to sending out. Then, I noticed the Desktop's Norton AV kicked in also; as if it was scanning the outgoing msg also. But, the message was never received on the other end.

Any other suggestions?!?

[Poseidon]

I had it successfully setup and working a few years ago using the method you are trying with a dial up account.

Could this be part of the problem:

. . .One more thing to note about email; it will only support using a certain
username once; for example, you can't have [email protected] and
[email protected]; but you can have [email protected] and [email protected].
In most cases this shouldn't be a problem for users, since most people have
different usernames for each account...

[imaeditedbysowulo]

Originally posted by JaxSon
Thanks ima...
but I've done all that.

Desktop's IP is 10.0.0.1. Laptop is 10.0.0.2. I can ping each other without any problems.

On the Desktop running Proxy, I have configured all of my email addresses and servers properly for my ISP. I have doublechecked and triplechecked.
On the Laptop, I have both of the pop3 servers and smtp servers set to 10.0.0.1.

The Proxy icon in the tray is green...which is good. Red is bad.

BTW, when I try to send mail out from the Laptop, it appears to go out...the Norton AV kicks in and says it's being scanned prior to sending out. Then, I noticed the Desktop's Norton AV kicked in also; as if it was scanning the outgoing msg also. But, the message was never received on the other end.

Any other suggestions?!?

I would disable the AV on both computers and see if it works.

I used analogx proxy for over a year, it's simple to set up and I know it works for mail. It sounds like you have everything set up properly, so I'm thinking your AV software must be the culprit. Maybe there's a setting in there you must tweak?

[-Senectus-]

go here and check it out.
http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin...209#post300209

Its the soloution to you problem..
and its free.. :-)
Dump ICS.. in win98 se it was as buggy as all hell..

[JaxSon]

All of my email addresses have different user names. They all start with the same letter but are totally different after that.

I will try to disable the Norton AV next time I get a chance. That sounds like something to mess around with...

BTW followup: The outgoing email that I spoke about in the above post did make it to its destination. So, it seems that I can send outgoing mail but I can't check incoming because of the timeout.

I suppose that if I can't get this thing to work, I'll have to check out that LAN Suite software recommended above.

Anyway, I'll try again on Friday and will post the outcome here. Thanks for all of the replies and suggestions. Super as always. And, keep 'em coming.

[JaxSon]

I have disabled all of the Norton AV.

Now, it doesn't time out immediately. It waits and finally after about a minute and a half, it asks for my Logon User name and p***word for the server, 10.0.0.1. WTF?!? I don't have a logon for that. So, I enter the basic stuff for my email and it says that User Name was rejected. So, at least it is trying to get out to my mail, but it is still getting hung up somehow.

One of the Options under Outlook Express and the LAN Settings is to use a Proxy server which I have selected and entered 10.0.0.1 for the servers. There is a box for "Byp*** Proxy Server for Local Addressess"...I have tried selecting it and leaving it unchecked...still no workie.

There is also a box for Automatically Detect Settings in the LAN Settings. Again, I have tried selected it and leaving it unchecked...no difference.

Is it possible that this Analog X Proxy is just not compatible with Outlook Express? I know some of you guys say you had it working...with OE or something else?

Again, I can send out emails but can't receive anything...a real bummer.

Any more ideas???

[imaeditedbysowulo]

Okay, I just downloaded analogx proxy to see what all options you have. Have you added aliases for each of your user accounts in AnalogX proxy on the main PC?

I've used it with Outlook Express and with Outlook, it's definitely compatible with both. In OE, you shouldn't have to specify a proxy server, it should use your existing internet connection. Under the account setup, you need to have specified for pop and smtp server addresses the IP address of your main computer.

Check the smtp server address you have entered in analogx proxy. If you can send but can't receive, this is where your problem might be.

[WebHead]

Oh,.. btw,... Only one of the PC's need to have ICS anyway. The one that dials out and connects to the internet needs ICS enabled. Then once the two PC's are connected via NIC's or whatever, then the internet should work on both machines. It's goes like this -->

{Internet} <---- {PC with ICS enabled} <---- { Other PC (doesn't need ICS)}

Anyway, that's the way it's always worked for me. I wouldn't bother with all that proxy stuff. It's always too much of a pain in the rear to get it to work right.