Booting blues

**YaCib** · July 16th, 2004, 10:16 PM

Hi guys,

I am trying to resurrect my old pc and I need your help. I have an old 6x86-P200+, running win95.

Here is my problem.When I power up, it goes to the safe mode stage, but does not boot all the way. . It won't let me go anywhere from here...I get a message about the files C:\Windows\HIMEM.SYS, C:\Windows\DBLBUFF.SYS, C:\Windows\IFSHLP.SYS being missing or corrupt.

I tried to boot, using a floppy disk. I followed all instructions until I got a message "System Transferred". When I try to reboot, it is the same story.

Please help. I don't speak computers, so be nice

Thanks in advance.

**NooNoo** · July 17th, 2004, 04:11 AM

Welcome to Windrivers Yacib

Computers 101 coming up.

Could you post the exact message you are getting with each of the filenames you mentioned?

First guess is that windows has corrupted and that the quick way round this would be to reload windows.

Boot from a boot diskette, enable cdrom support. Put your windows 95 cd in and then change to the cdrom drive letter (probably d or e) by typing D: and hitting return. Now type in setup and press return.

If windows is corrupt as I think it is, it should start setup normally. It may ask you for the directory in which to put the installation. You want the original directory... usually c:\windows - if it offers you c:\windows.000 delete out the last 4 characters so that windows is forced to overwrite the existing install.

Now, this should just put back the windows files and not affect installed software... unless that software is also corrupt.

Let us know how you get on, or ask for clarification on any point.

**YaCib** · July 17th, 2004, 10:34 AM

Thanks, NooNoo! I appreciate your help.

>Could you post the exact message you are getting with each of the filenames you mentioned?

Upon powering up, it goes to the start menu, option 3(safe mode).

Warning: Windows has detected a registry/configuration error. Choose safe mode, to start with the minimal set of drives.

C:\Windows\HIMEM.SYS is missing or corrupt

C:\Windows\DBLBUFF.SYS is missing or corrupt

C:\Windows\IFSHLP.SYS is missing or corrupt

>Boot from a boot diskette, enable cdrom support.

Sounds Greek to me

. How do you do that?

Thank you very much!

**GrandDad** · July 17th, 2004, 12:16 PM

If you don't have floppy disk that says
" __ Start up " or "boot disk" ,

you can go here ;
http://www.bootdisk.com/

and download the first one
(DOS - Windows 9X/Me/NT/2K/XP Excellent )
and UnZip it a floppy disk and write on with a Marker what it is .

and let us know when or if you got it and will continue .

**YaCib** · July 17th, 2004, 03:57 PM

>and download the first one
>(DOS - Windows 9X/Me/NT/2K/XP Excellent )
>and UnZip it a floppy disk and write on with a Marker what it is .

I have that one.

When I follow NooNoo's advice, I get this:

Bad command or file name.

Thanks guys!

**NooNoo** · July 17th, 2004, 04:08 PM

Do you have the windows 95 cd?

When you boot with the boot diskette, does it find a cd device and install it? Watch the booting process, it will say number of drives installed 1 if you have 1 cdrom and it is working.

**GrandDad** · July 17th, 2004, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by YaCib

>and download the first one
>(DOS - Windows 9X/Me/NT/2K/XP Excellent )
>and UnZip it a floppy disk and write on with a Marker what it is .

I have that one.

When I follow NooNoo's advice, I get this:

Bad command or file name.

Thanks guys!

Ok my bad maybe ,
under >(DOS - Windows 9X/Me/NT/2K/XP Excellent )
which one do you have or downloaded ?

**YaCib** · July 17th, 2004, 04:39 PM

>Do you have the windows 95 cd?

Yes

>When you boot with the boot diskette, does it find a cd device and install it?

I think so.

It says:

CD ROM device Driver for IDE(four channels supported).

Thanks, mate.

**YaCib** · July 17th, 2004, 04:43 PM

>which one do you have or downloaded ?

I dowloaded the original. I think that is what I have.

**NooNoo** · July 17th, 2004, 05:10 PM

ok did you note what drive letter was assigned?

change to the drive by typing
d:
hitting return - substitute e for d if its e...etc

now type
dir
hit return
you should get a list of files
one of them should be setup.exe
if its there, you can type
setup
hit return and setup should start.

If it scrolls too fast type
dir /p
hit return, then hit a key for the next screenful.

**YaCib** · July 17th, 2004, 06:08 PM

>ok did you note what drive letter was assigned?

I am a bit confused here. As in going to BIOS and see what sequence?

>now type
dir
>hit return
>you should get a list of files
one of them should be setup.exe

When I do that, here is what I get:

Directory od D:\

Command com

~MSSETUP T (DIR)

COMMAND PIF

>if its there, you can type
setup
>hit return and setup should start.

When I do that, I get:

bad command or file name.

Thanks for your help.

**GrandDad** · July 17th, 2004, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by YaCib

>ok did you note what drive letter was assigned?

I am a bit confused here. As in going to BIOS and see what sequence?

>now type
dir
>hit return
>you should get a list of files
one of them should be setup.exe

When I do that, here is what I get:

Directory od D:\

Command com

~MSSETUP T (DIR)

COMMAND PIF

>if its there, you can type
setup
>hit return and setup should start.

When I do that, I get:

bad command or file name.

Thanks for your help.

With PC on put Windows CD in , wait a few seconds
and turn PC off

With PC turned off put in floppy disk
turn PC on

after however long you should see floppy drive light come on and hear it reading
on your screen you should it loading up
if it finds a CDrom it will give it a letter
this will all take a few minutes and finally everthing will stop

on screen it should say ;
A:\ _
if you saw what letter was given to CDrom
type that letter (hold shift -type letter and : )
will probably be E or F
E: or F: (hit ENTER )
wait
now it should say (E: or F: )
then type
setup (hit ENTER )

it should go from there .

**YaCib** · July 18th, 2004, 11:58 AM

Hi GrandDad,

>With PC on put Windows CD in , wait a few seconds
and turn PC off

Ok, did that

>With PC turned off put in floppy disk
turn PC on

Ok, did that

>after however long you should see floppy drive light come on and hear it reading
on your screen you should it loading up
>if it finds a CDrom it will give it a letter
>this will all take a few minutes and finally everthing will stop

Here is where I get confused. I don't see E or F.

Here is what it says:

CD-Rom Device Driver for IDF(four channels supported)
(c) Copy right Oak Tecknology Inc. 1993-96

Driver version : v340
Device name: Banana
Transfer Mode: Prgrammed I/o
Drive 0: port = 170(secondary Channel), Master IPQ=15
Fireware version: R04

M-SC DEX version 2.25

Copyright (c) Microsoft corp. 1986-95. Allrights reserved.
Drive R: Driver banana Unit 0.

>on screen it should say ;
A:\ _
if you saw what letter was given to CDrom
>type that letter (hold shift -type letter and : )
will probably be E or F

Yes, the screen say: A:\. But Like I said above, I don't see E or F.

Does that mean my CD-ROM is not working? I mean it lights and all.

Please execuse my ignorance. I know nada about technical stuff.

Thanks.

**GrandDad** · July 18th, 2004, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by YaCib

Hi GrandDad,

Drive 0: port = 170(secondary Channel), Master IPQ=15

Drive R: Driver banana Unit 0.

.

Then you may have try the R:

but I'd say just try all one at a time ;
E:
F:
G:
H:
I:
J:
K:
until you hit something or if not
CDrom is to old for it to pick up or not working .

**YaCib** · July 19th, 2004, 08:26 AM

Hi GrandDad,

I have good news and bad news. IT WORKED. It went through: scanning, copying files, accepting my id...etc. Now I have another problem. I am getting this error "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down"

Then it turns into the infamous BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH.

Any ideas how to combat this beast? Thanks!