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a Idea... Thank me Later
I havent tryed this yet, but im certain it will work.
1. Locate tank (such as fish tank, or plexi glas) larg enough to contain your MB, and Cards, and Power supply, but not mechanical parts (you wont need the fans if i pull this off).
2. apropreate cable extensions for all you ports, connectors ect. that will reach to a "lid" for the tank, tankmust be deep enough to compleatly "submerge" equipment.
3. place the system in the tank and fill with transformer oil (non conductive, and extemly heat tolerant), heat sinks problay not required.
4. attach mecahnigal parts (drives) to the connectors taht were riged up on the lid.
5. go.
should be capapbe of keeping the entire system at sub zero tempatures (-40 easy) if you add a pump and a radiator(with apropreate cooling) to system.
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hummm, do it and post some pics for us!
:D
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I remember that some guy a few years back made a styrofoam case and put his MB and cards in it. Then he filled it with mineral oil and ran the oil over an air conditioner coil. He was able to get it down to about -30 if I remeber right. It worked pretty good until he tried sinking the power supply in the oil then he had voltage fluctuations, he also had problems with condensation buildup on the AC coil. I can't find the web site but I thought I found it through Windrivers.
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Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
(Falanx regains his composure)
I like the idea of expanded Poly(Styrene) foam for a case...nice and light... But to place any organic liquid in it is folly. Polymers soak up liquids, not quite so quickly as a sponge, but in the same manner. I remember one of the lecturers on my undergraduate course saying once 'there's no such thing as a waterproof plastic'. Which, incidentally is the same reason I'm wary of Water cooling systems in cases.
Anyway. The bonding in Poly(Phenylethene) is tenuous at best, especially in comparison to huge, reasonably unbranched, aliphatic molecules with huge Van der Waals forces like high-density Poly(Ethene). Which is why even solid Poly(Styrene) has a low density, approximately 740kg/cubic metre, as compared to the 995kg/cubic metre of Poly(Ethene) Allowing it to come into contact with organic solvents, of which mineral oils are such is dangerous. It has a tendancy to develop the mechanical properties of mashed potato.
Irrespective of which, motherboards are polymer. They soak up oil, they swell, deform, warp and stretch the thin, deposited copper tracks of circuitboards. You get shorts, broken tracks... you see where I'm going.
Sorry - I'm a Materials Scientist techie...
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damn useless plastic!
it never dose what i want.
this melts that, or it disolves when. and no you cant just glue it back together!
damn it all to @$#^!
some universal material its turning out to be, should just make it out of wood or something.
arent main board made of fiber glass? if so all i have to resolve is cabling issues, not hte copper fibers, as the fiber glass should be resistent.
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They did thios on techtv but instead of oil they used hydofluric ether from 3m.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FeS2:
<strong>I remember that some guy a few years back made a styrofoam case and put his MB and cards in it. Then he filled it with mineral oil and ran the oil over an air conditioner coil. He was able to get it down to about -30 if I remeber right. It worked pretty good until he tried sinking the power supply in the oil then he had voltage fluctuations, he also had problems with condensation buildup on the AC coil. I can't find the web site but I thought I found it through Windrivers.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think <a href="http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?caller=articles/submersion/submersion8.html" target="_blank">this</a> is the site you were talking about. Oh the possibilities. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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I would recommend at least a 29 gallon tank, but if you really want it to be cool, get a 75 or 100 gallon tank, set it all up, seal it off (so about 1/2 the tank is still open, and maybe about 2" on a side for cabling, then full the top up with water and have a fully working aquariou on top of it!
Use a clear coolant, and get some fake fish in there, too! That would be great!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RejectionMan:
<strong>damn useless plastic!
it never dose what i want.
this melts that, or it disolves when. and no you cant just glue it back together!
damn it all to @$#^!
some universal material its turning out to be, should just make it out of wood or something.
arent main board made of fiber glass? if so all i have to resolve is cabling issues, not hte copper fibers, as the fiber glass should be resistent.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, yup, but those glass fibres are held together with any epoxy resin. That too will dissolve over time in any mineral or biological oil you care to place it in.