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Hmmm tuffie that one... :D :D
Seems that someone overlooked that last one...
:flame: nuff' said! :D
Yeah, still waiting for some actual logic/evidence for us to start WWIII...
Anyone notice howDICK Cheney came out of hiding all of the sudden to support W?
He was in Norad playing MOH:AA with Bush sr. for the last year...
I watched mr Chaney on Meet the Press or something similar late last night, it's pretty evident by what he was saying that we are going to war, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks, or even the population of our own country.
The last six months have been nothing but a PR campaign by our government trying to get everyone riled up at Saddam so they can justify going to war.
Personally, I think Dubbaya is nothing more than a puppet, but whoever is behind him is a madman bent on taking over the world, or at least the parts that have oil. Our government is absolutely out of control and is only getting worse. More Waco's and Ruby Ridge's to come, stay tuned...
Hmmm...
To divert attention from the economy?
To get high ratings again and keep it going until next election?
To promote "patriotism" so they can take away the rest of our liberties as being "un-american"?
I'm probably going to get :flame: for this but..
Like father, like son!
Hey, they gotta use all those fancy tanks and war-birds once in a while to justify the expense to congress. The YF-22 (I think) is just seeing the light of day, so it calls for a good ol fashioned American celebration........
:guns::flame:
Uhm, last I checked, there is really no shortage of reasons to be done with Saddam. Hell, a few thousand reasons came through Guam during Operation Pacific Haven. But don't let anything like that get in the way of your bashing, no fun to let anything disrupt the defecation of your opinions. Don't we all know that war is obsolete as everything works itself out, especially those nasty dictator mass-murderers.
If America hates Saddam so much, why did they let him have Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war?
Y'see, then he looked like another Blair-style lapdog, ready to give the US all his oil....
The reasons they are giving for taking out Saddam are BS in my opinion. They are throwing up a huge smokescreen to hide their real reason for going after him, OIL. It's not like Saddam quit letting UN inspectors do their job just a week ago, it's been more than two years since he cooperated at all.Quote:
Originally posted by jaeger
Uhm, last I checked, there is really no shortage of reasons to be done with Saddam. Hell, a few thousand reasons came through Guam during Operation Pacific Haven. But don't let anything like that get in the way of your bashing, no fun to let anything disrupt the defecation of your opinions. Don't we all know that war is obsolete as everything works itself out, especially those nasty dictator mass-murderers.
If our country was being run by a regime that wasn't 100% bought and paid for by the oil companies, maybe I'd feel better about going after Saddam. Or maybe if our government did something about all the corruption that is currently going on in corporate america, maybe then I'd support them.
But I feel our government is just as crooked as Saddam, maybe even more so. Money makes our government go round and round, and until I see an honest President of this country rather than a puppet with 4th grade english skills, I will have a very hard time supporting anything they say or do.
Aren't we the ones who gave Saddam all of his technology in the first place so that he could take out a country we viewed as a threat?
You're about there editted, that and votes.
America made it's bed in the mid 80's, why should we clean the sheets for them?
My whole beef with this thing is that IMHO, America doesn't (or shouldn't) stand for starting wars. Iraq is a bad idea, ask anyone who gets unbiased news. We will have few allies in the military arena, and may lose some allies by being an international bullly- Germany comes to mind here... Bush is alienating Europe; Granted- Tony supports us, but I think he misses big Uncle Bill and and is just being polite to W as a personal favor.
If we get messed with, al la Pearl Harbor or WTC, we get involved. If some poor country is getting picked on, we can step in. But I don't dig us initiating conflict.
War sucks, period. Soldiers die, civilians die, the environment gets hosed. Nobody wins.
If the U.S. just wants to destroy all potential or imagined enemies, why not just take it to the next logical, yet absurd level and take over the world like Rome? Remember the Pax Romana? After we dethrone all known kings, queens and democratic rulers and annihilate everyone else's military capabilities, we can look forward to years of peace in a Brave New World.
Baby Bush is still under the influence of Daddy Bush. That is why he wants Saddam so much. Iraq is not a threat to us, there are bigger and more important things than our president should be obsesssed with.
Let us see.
First Bush has to wait a little while, not only to make sure that the economy is still sucky so that he has support, but to also make sure he is still riding a big wave of support from the fighting.
If we do go to war, we can't make it too quick, or once again, the wave will fall. We have to make it quick, as many countries might not trade as freely, which would in turn hender the economy even more. We want it to last longer so the Ashcroft can gain more and more control of our personal lives.
Then there is still the question of us actually killing Saddam or at least taking him prisoner. Daddy didn't do it, dubya still hasn't produced Bin Laden, and I don't think he will produce Saddam either.
On the flip side though, we do need to let the world know who the boss is. Sorry, but America is the biggest and strongest player out there. If we could honestly take a firm stand in something, not be so damned wishy-washy, not be so unbelievably hypocritical and so on...we might just get some respect and support.
It is not the job of America to police the world. True, some issues and points of conflict my affect us and then it is our business, but to police the entire world when we think something is wrong is forcing our ideas and concepts on other countries just because we are big enough to do it. That is not right. Iraq has been a sore spot with America for quite a few administrations. They know they have what we want and threfore use it to get away with whatever they want. Instead of addressing the problem when it first started, we just through money @ it hoping it would go away. Now it is a big problem and getting worse and we cannot ignore it anymore. Sad situation all around in my opinion. :sad: