Another Tale of Chat

[8:43pm] [8:43pm]Joins: Bob ([email protected]) ((12 users ))
[8:43pm] (Matridom) hi bob
[8:43pm] [8:43pm]( Bob ) hi matridom
[8:43pm] *** Rifleman is now known as Rifleman|AFK
[8:44pm] [8:44pm]( Bob ) I guess Noo is not here
[8:44pm] (Matridom) LOL
[8:44pm] (Matridom) what can we help you with bob?
[8:45pm] [8:45pm]( Bob ) I just wanted to let Noo know that I successfully uninstalled NSW and fixed my O.E. connection problem.
[8:45pm] (Matridom) kewl.
[8:45pm] (Matridom) glad to hear it.
[8:45pm] (Matridom) I'll pass the word on when i see Noo
[8:45pm] [8:45pm]( Bob ) I know it took so long
[8:45pm] [8:45pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) did the symclean work???
[8:45pm] [8:45pm]( Bob ) Rif: I didn't try it
[8:46pm] [8:46pm]( Bob ) I just uninstalled NSW
[8:46pm] [8:46pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) O
[8:46pm] [8:46pm]Joins: alexis ([email protected]) ((13 users ))
[8:46pm] [8:46pm]( alexis ) Good evening
[8:46pm] ((Notice))#lobby Voice given to user, but channel is not +m
[8:46pm] [8:46pm] Matridom sets mode: +v alexis
[8:46pm] [8:46pm](+ Dan ) hey sweetie
[8:47pm] (Matridom) hey sweet cheeks
[8:47pm] [8:47pm](+ alexis ) hi dan, matridom
[8:47pm] [8:47pm](+ alexis ) et. al
[8:48pm] [8:48pm]( Bob ) But I am concerned about Norton's hold on the recycle bin and the fact that when I tried to delete two Symantec program files it told me that acces was denied.
[8:48pm] (Matridom) bob, that's cause another applicatation was activily using that file.
[8:49pm] [8:49pm]( Bob ) Do you think I could still delete it?
[8:49pm] (Matridom) bob, i'd find what program is using the file..
[8:49pm] [8:49pm]( Bob ) How do I find it?
[8:49pm] (Matridom) then decide if you really want the file removed
[8:49pm] [8:49pm](+ Dan ) bbiab
[8:50pm] (Matridom) bob, that's the challenge, there is no easy way
[8:50pm] *** Dan is now known as Dan|brb
[8:50pm] [8:50pm]( Bob ) Why would a non Symantec program want to use a symantec file?
[8:50pm] (Matridom) maybe the symantec is using a non syamtec file?
[8:51pm] [8:51pm]( Bob ) Are you suggesting that removing it may also remove something from another program?
[8:51pm] (Matridom) or your symantec program is still running, preventing you from removing it
[8:51pm] (Matridom) yes.
[8:51pm] [8:51pm]( Bob ) I certainly don't wan that to happen
[8:51pm] [8:51pm](+ jaeger ) ok, electronics gurus, easy way to step up from 12 volt to 24 volt?
[8:52pm] (Matridom) jaeg, you need a transgormer
[8:52pm] (Matridom) transformer
[8:52pm] [8:52pm](+ jaeger ) that i know
[8:52pm] [8:52pm](+ jaeger ) where to get one is what i dont
[8:52pm] (Matridom) also remember that steping up the voltage will lower the amperage
[8:53pm] [8:53pm]( Bob ) How can I prevent symantec from running?
[8:53pm] [8:53pm](+ jaeger ) remember that too
[8:53pm] (Matridom) jaeg, electronics store?
[8:54pm] [8:54pm](+ jaeger ) heh, ive been to a few of the local, oh well gonna have to suffer through em again
[8:54pm] [8:54pm](+ jaeger ) what price am i looking at?
[8:54pm] (Matridom) no idea
[8:54pm] [8:54pm]Joins: Chevelle ([email protected]) ((14 users ))
[8:55pm] [8:55pm]( Chevelle ) hello all
[8:55pm] [8:55pm](+ jaeger ) hah nm
[8:55pm] (Matridom) hi Chevelle
[8:55pm] [8:55pm](+ jaeger ) i double checked the fan ratings
[8:56pm] [8:56pm](+ jaeger ) itll run at 12v
[8:56pm] [8:56pm](+ jaeger ) reduced speed setting
[8:57pm] [8:57pm]( Bob ) Matridom or Rifleman: Why does uninstalling NSW from the start menu cause Norton to lose its hold on the recycle bin while the manual uninstall doesn't?
[8:57pm] (Matridom) I'm not sure.. what is NSW?
[8:57pm] [8:57pm](+ Auric ) norton system works
[8:58pm] [8:58pm]( Bob ) Auric is right
[8:58pm] [8:58pm](+ Auric ) the word "always" should appear between is and right :)
[8:58pm] (Matridom) Oh.. Norton system works.. uck
[8:58pm] [8:58pm]( Bob ) lol
[8:58pm] [8:58pm](+ jaeger ) norton, ick
[8:58pm] [8:58pm](+ Auric ) i'm about to play some nhl2003
[8:59pm] [8:59pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) to totally remove that product you need the symclean utility I gave you the link to earlier
[8:59pm] [8:59pm](+ jaeger ) heh, these fans are gonna kick *** even at mid
[8:59pm] [8:59pm] Quits: Tony ([email protected]) (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken))
[8:59pm] [8:59pm]( Bob ) Rifleman: I apologize for not having listened to you earlier
[8:59pm] [8:59pm](+ jaeger ) red should be + on this fan
[9:00pm] (Matridom) yes jaeg
[9:00pm] [9:00pm]( Bob ) Could you give me that link again Chuck (Rifleman)?
[9:00pm] [9:00pm](+ jaeger ) just random thinking to self matri
[9:00pm] [9:00pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) chuck???
[9:00pm] [9:00pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) uhhh
[9:00pm] * Matridom slaps jaeger around with a cream filled donut...... smack ... smack ... smack .. :)
[9:01pm] [9:01pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) chuck won't but I will hold on
[9:01pm] [9:01pm]( Bob ) Chuck Connors was the star of the 50s Rifleman series
[9:01pm] [9:01pm](+ jaeger ) i prefer jelly ya twit
[9:01pm] [9:01pm](+ Auric ) http://www.farshot.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=41
[9:01pm] [9:01pm]Joins: Guest ([email protected]) ((14 users ))
[9:02pm] [9:02pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) http://service1.sym...

[9:02pm] [9:02pm]( Bob ) Rifleman: I am trying to double click on the link but it is not working
[9:03pm] [9:03pm](+ jaeger ) flol aur
[9:03pm] [9:03pm](+ jaeger ) omg
[9:04pm] [9:04pm]( Bob ) Rifleman: Sorry! It was hidden on my task bar
[9:04pm] (Matridom) OMG!!!!
[9:04pm] *** Retrieving #lobby info...
[9:04pm] [9:04pm](+ jaeger ) this is so wrong
[9:04pm] )))) Matridom changes topic to 'http://www.farshot.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=41 (-- Auric's Sex life'
[9:05pm] [9:05pm](+ jaeger ) aur, thats genius
[9:05pm] (Matridom) love it!
[9:05pm] (Matridom) that's going to UFO..
[9:06pm] [9:06pm](+ jaeger ) 'we are not responsible for sticky keyboards'
[9:07pm] [9:07pm]( Guest ) have computer ? trying to chane out harddrive in a compact computer from western digital to maxtor no luck
[9:08pm] (Matridom) guest.. how old is the compaq?
[9:08pm] [9:08pm]( Guest ) western digital was set at cable select. set maxtor at cable select still no luck
[9:08pm] (Matridom) guest.. how old is the compaq?
[9:09pm] [9:09pm]( Guest ) its a 200 series
[9:09pm] (Matridom) exact model please?
[9:09pm] [9:09pm]( Guest ) compact pro
[9:09pm] (Matridom) so a compact pro 200?
[9:10pm] [9:10pm]( Bob ) Rifleman?
[9:10pm] [9:10pm]( Bob ) I just checked out the link
[9:11pm] [9:11pm]( Bob ) In that link was another link to tell me how to prepare my computer for installing new software
[9:12pm] [9:12pm]( Bob ) Also I learned in the same link why I was having problems
[9:12pm] [9:12pm]( Bob ) with NSW
[9:13pm] [9:13pm]( Bob ) My frustrations began when I installed all of NSW capabilities, which took up to many of my limited resources
[9:13pm] (Matridom) no surprise there bob
[9:14pm] (Matridom) the only thing that symantec makes well is there anty virus software..
[9:14pm] [9:14pm]( Bob ) It is a surprise for me to discover that NSW had such information. I just didn't know where it was till Rifleman gave me the link
[9:14pm] [9:14pm] Quits: Guest ([email protected]) (Leaving)
[9:14pm] (Matridom) now that was a typical AOL user..
[9:15pm] [9:15pm]( Bob ) What do you mean by AOL user?
[9:15pm] (Matridom) [9:14pm] Quits: Guest ([email protected]) (Leaving)
[9:15pm] [9:15pm]( Bob ) Are you referring to what I was just taling about or or you talking to someone else here?
[9:15pm] (Matridom) that guest that just left..
[9:15pm] (Matridom) he was on AOL
[9:16pm] [9:16pm]( Bob ) LOL
[9:16pm] (Matridom) Quits: Guest ([email protected]) (Leaving)
[9:16pm] [9:16pm]( Bob ) Matridom: Are you still suggesting the NSW is no good?
[9:17pm] (Matridom) bob, i USED to trust system works, but no longer, for everything that it does, there are better products out.
[9:17pm] [9:17pm]( Bob ) If it is no good, I would like to know how I can get a refund
[9:17pm] [9:17pm](+ jaeger ) 'suggest' implies it is not a fact
[9:17pm] (Matridom) the only good thing in it is the anti visrus program
[9:17pm] [9:17pm]( Bob ) Can you give me some suggestions of better products?
[9:18pm] (Matridom) well, what parts do you need?
[9:18pm] [9:18pm](+ jaeger ) ontrack fix-it utilities
[9:18pm] [9:18pm]( Bob ) I respect suggestions for people I think are experts
[9:18pm] [9:18pm](+ jaeger ) does everything nsw does without killing your sys
[9:18pm] (Matridom) zonealarm for firewall
[9:18pm] (Matridom) diskeeper for defragmenter
[9:19pm] (Matridom) ad-aware for spyware
[9:20pm] [9:20pm]( Bob ) I just wrote those suggestions down
[9:20pm] [9:20pm]( Bob ) Are they all dot coms
[9:20pm] (Matridom) zonealarm and ad-aware are free
[9:20pm] (Matridom) no..
[9:20pm] (Matridom) ad-aware is www.lavasoft.com i think
[9:20pm] [9:20pm]( Bob ) What are their URLs
[9:21pm] (Matridom) the other two are dot com's
[9:21pm] (Matridom) and try jaeger's ontrack fix-it
[9:22pm] [9:22pm]( Bob ) How do I install the NAV only from the NSW disk and is it safe to do so?
[9:22pm] [9:22pm](+ jaeger ) avg is free antivirus
[9:22pm] [9:22pm] Quits: Lunardog ([email protected]) (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken))
[9:22pm] [9:22pm]( Bob ) Are PC-Cillen and McCaffe any good and free?
[9:23pm] [9:23pm](+ jaeger ) not free
[9:23pm] (Matridom) pc-cillen comes with most mainboards
[9:23pm] [9:23pm](+ jaeger ) pccillin is good
[9:23pm] (Matridom) otherwise they both cost
[9:23pm] [9:23pm](+ jaeger ) mccaffee isnt
[9:23pm] [9:23pm]( Bob ) Why isn't Mcaffe any good?
[9:23pm] [9:23pm](+ jaeger ) see probs with it too
[9:24pm] [9:24pm]( Bob ) ok
[9:24pm] [9:24pm](+ jaeger ) not extremely reliable
[9:24pm] (Matridom) bob, you need to remember that no program is perfect.
[9:24pm] (Matridom) some just have less issues then others
[9:25pm] [9:25pm]( Bob ) I realize that but Microsoft and Norton seem to give me many problems
[9:25pm] [9:25pm](+ jaeger ) some programs are just much further from perfection
[9:25pm] (Matridom) ms gives everyone headachs
[9:25pm] [9:25pm]( Bob ) I am wondering about Macintosh computers. I heard that they are more reliable than any IBM computer
[9:25pm] (Matridom) bob, that depends.
[9:26pm] [9:26pm]( Bob ) and more user friendly by far
[9:26pm] (Matridom) there is less to screw up on a mac.
[9:26pm] (Matridom) but mac's can't run everything.
[9:26pm] [9:26pm]( Bob ) everything like what?
[9:26pm] [9:26pm](+ jaeger ) there are always OOB errors to deal with
[9:26pm] (Matridom) everything is propriatary
[9:27pm] [9:27pm]( Bob ) whats oob
[9:27pm] [9:27pm](+ jaeger ) would take a while to explain
[9:27pm] [9:27pm]( Bob ) how do proprietary interests affect the end user?
[9:27pm] [9:27pm](+ jaeger ) but they happen with any comp
[9:28pm] (Matridom) bob, if somethine breaks, then there is only one place you can go to fix it. they know that, so they charge a LOT of extra $$$ to fix it.
[9:28pm] [9:28pm](+ jaeger ) there a new oob errors popping up every day
[9:28pm] [9:28pm]( Bob ) What about the new Dell? Does it do better than any other computer and in what ways?
[9:30pm] [9:30pm]Joins: Lunardog ([email protected]) ((13 users ))
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[9:30pm] [9:30pm](+ jaeger ) it has slightly faster components
[9:30pm] (Matridom) wb ld
[9:31pm] [9:31pm](+ jaeger ) but you will still see new oob errors with it
[9:31pm] [9:31pm]( Bob ) How does AMD fair?
[9:31pm] [9:31pm](+ jaeger ) amd is good but can result in a higher occurance of new oob errors
[9:32pm] [9:32pm]( Bob ) Why is it that with every version of Windows it seems like it is a forever learning process?
[9:33pm] [9:33pm]( Bob ) What do the letters o-o-b stand for?
[9:33pm] (Matridom) out of bound
[9:33pm] [9:33pm]( Bob ) thank you
[9:35pm] [9:35pm](+ jaeger ) out-of-bound typically occurs when the input device has insufficient system resources
[9:35pm] [9:35pm]( Bob ) How can I troubleshoot and eliminate most of my computer problems without having to spend forever to learn every new thing that comes along?
[9:36pm] (Matridom) bob, you learn technics on how to find problems, steps to follow that will work on anything
[9:36pm] [9:36pm](+ jaeger ) dont install shareware/aol/norton or open email attachments
[9:36pm] (Matridom) once you've isolated the problem you then learn what you need to to fix it
[9:36pm] [9:36pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) lol @ jae
[9:37pm] [9:37pm]( Bob ) That is good information. I want to try to remember it.
[9:38pm] [9:38pm]( Bob ) Why not open email attachments from friends and people I trust?
[9:38pm] [9:38pm](+ jaeger ) because viruses can make peoples computer send email attachements
[9:38pm] [9:38pm](+ jaeger ) rather emails with attachments
[9:39pm] [9:39pm]( Bob ) What shall I do then to send important information to people I know through the email?
[9:39pm] [9:39pm](+ jaeger ) just never open an email attachment
[9:40pm] [9:40pm]( Bob ) I don't want them to get viruses either. But I don't want to send pages of information in an ordinary email message if it looks better in an attachment.
[9:40pm] [9:40pm](+ jaeger ) email attachments are the primary cause of DAEHTIHS terminations
[9:40pm] [9:40pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) just always send a confirmation saying there will be a attachment to an eamil
[9:41pm] [9:41pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) and always have othere people send you a confirmation that they sent you an attachment

[9:41pm] [9:41pm]( Bob ) Does such a confirmation always work?
[9:42pm] [9:42pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) or don't open the attachment until you talk to the person and get confirmation about the attachment
[9:42pm] [9:42pm]( Bob ) I mean, can crackers catch the confirmed email attachment and put a virus on it?
[9:43pm] [9:43pm]( Bob ) that is in the process of transmission.
[9:43pm] [9:43pm](+ Rifleman|AFK ) chances are they wouldn't go through the trouble, unless you piss someone off
[9:43pm] [9:43pm]( Bob ) Ok! But it is possible.
[9:44pm] [9:44pm]( Bob ) So my chances are pretty good if I only send and receive such attachments with confirmations
[9:44pm] (Matridom) that's right bob
[9:45pm] [9:45pm]( Bob ) Thank you very much guys
[9:45pm] (Matridom) our pleasure bob
[9:46pm] [9:46pm]( Bob ) Now I would like some help in solving a problem with my sound card
[9:46pm] [9:46pm]( Bob ) I formatted my hardrive a few weeks ago
[9:46pm] (Matridom) what's the problem?
[9:47pm] [9:47pm]( Redhat ) uhm.....how nice there gonna restart prodtuction of the GTO
[9:47pm] [9:47pm](+ alexis ) brb
[9:48pm] [9:48pm]( Bob ) Since then, every time I try to get open my window media player there is a message telling me that my sound card is not there or not working
[9:48pm] (Matridom) what sound card do you have?
[9:48pm] [9:48pm](+ jaeger ) you tried installing drivers lately?
[9:49pm] [9:49pm]( Bob ) that is another problem I dont know the name or how to find the name of it since I dont have the documentation for it anymore
[9:49pm] (Matridom) www.belarc.com
[9:49pm] (Matridom) they have a program that will tell you what sound card you have
[9:49pm] [9:49pm]( Bob ) Thank you, I will write that down and try it
[9:50pm] [9:50pm]( Bob ) I will be back when I find that information
[9:51pm] (Matridom) ok
[9:51pm] [9:51pm]( Bob ) bye for now
[9:51pm] (Matridom) bye
[9:51pm] [9:51pm] Quits: Bob ([email protected]) (EOF from client)

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[10:10pm] [10:10pm]Joins: ww ([email protected]) ((13 users ))
[10:10pm] [10:10pm] chatspace.chat.server sets mode: +o ww
[10:10pm] [10:10pm](+ Rifleman ) HOwdy ww!!!
[10:10pm] [10:10pm](+ Tony ) Fag
[10:10pm] [10:10pm](@ ww) sup
[10:10pm] [10:10pm]( Bob ) Howdy everyone
[10:11pm] (Matridom) welcome back bob
[10:11pm] (Matridom) hey ww
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ jaeger ) heh ww, do i even need to say it
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ Rifleman ) wb bob
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ Tony ) You kill the deers?
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](@ ww) jae iahve been disconnected from the world for over 72 hours
[10:11pm] [10:11pm]( Bob ) Rifleman?
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ jaeger ) bucs won 21-7
[10:11pm] [10:11pm]( Bob ) wb?
[10:11pm] (Matridom) what happened ww/
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](@ ww) oh well
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ Rifleman ) wb+welcome back
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](@ ww) been hunting
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ Rifleman ) wb=wecome back
[10:11pm] [10:11pm](+ Tony ) Did ya kill any deers foo?
[10:12pm] [10:12pm]( Bob ) Thanks and gtbb = good to be back
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](@ ww) nah shot and hit a 8 pointer
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](+ jaeger ) damn amazing what a good software cooler can do for cpu temps
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](+ jaeger ) down to 80f
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](+ alexis ) hmm
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](+ Tony ) Whatcha using?
[10:12pm] [10:12pm](@ ww) lost the blood trail. must have clotted about half a mile
[10:13pm] [10:13pm]( Bob ) I downloaded Belarc and what a beutiful thing it is
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](+ jaeger ) its inclueded in the msi software
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](@ ww) 12 gauge hollow points at the time cause i was walking the swap
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](+ jaeger ) called pc alert 4
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](@ ww) hmm swamp
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](+ jaeger ) damn ww, first rule of hunting, shoot em in the brain
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](@ ww) not on a nice rack with a slug
[10:13pm] [10:13pm](+ Tony ) MSI stuff?
[10:13pm] [10:13pm]( Bob ) Matridom: My belarc shows no sound card
[10:14pm] [10:14pm](+ jaeger ) bah, i dont care about trophies
[10:14pm] [10:14pm]( Bob ) on my pc
[10:14pm] [10:14pm](@ ww) much more body to hit if you aim for the chest
[10:14pm] (Matridom) then your going to have to look at your documentation to find out what sound card you have. either that or open your computer (if it's not under warranty)
[10:14pm] [10:14pm]( Bob ) But my sound card worked well before I formatted the hd
[10:14pm] [10:14pm](@ ww) so all in all it was fun weekend.
[10:14pm] (Matridom) that is because you need to install the drivers for your sound card
[10:14pm] [10:14pm](@ ww) my legs were stuck in swap up to my thighs
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](@ ww) took me about 30 minutes to dig myself out
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](+ Tony ) Cmon, we know you took yer lappy
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](@ ww) nice frozen muddy swamp
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](@ ww) nope i didnt
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](@ ww) didnt even watch tv
[10:15pm] [10:15pm](@ ww) loads of booze though
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](+ Tony ) no porn??
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](+ Tony ) All weekend?
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](@ ww) was at the bar by noon on saturday
[10:16pm] [10:16pm]( Bob ) I had someone install a sound card I had in my old computer onto my new motherboard and I think the documents are not available anymore
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](@ ww) since thursday night
[10:16pm] [10:16pm] Quits: DocPC ([email protected]) (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken))
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](@ ww) going back up next weekend
[10:16pm] [10:16pm](@ ww) oh and tore the **** up out of the rental truck
[10:17pm] (Matridom) well, then your going to have to open the case and ID the card..
[10:17pm] [10:17pm](@ ww) took it through a bunch of fields
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[10:17pm] (Matridom) if you don't know what your doing if you open the computer, then take it to someone who knows how
[10:17pm] (Matridom) wb Doc
[10:17pm] [10:17pm]( Bob ) Is that easy enough to do?
[10:17pm] (Matridom) bob, have you ever done it before?
[10:18pm] [10:18pm]( Bob ) I opened the case on the old computer
[10:18pm] [10:18pm]( Bob ) it seemed pretty easy
[10:18pm] (Matridom) well, if your comfortable doing it.... if your not, get someone to do it for you
[10:19pm] [10:19pm]( Bob ) Where will I find the ID on the sound card and what is it? A number/
[10:19pm] (Matridom) that's the challenge bob
[10:19pm] [10:19pm]( Bob ) Is it a number or a name or a mixture of numbers and letters?
[10:19pm] (Matridom) you have to look at it, and find something that will look like a model number
[10:20pm] [10:20pm]( Bob ) Ok Matridom! I will try that.
[10:20pm] (Matridom) ok
[10:20pm] [10:20pm]( Bob ) Thank you! Bye for now.
[10:20pm] (Matridom) later
[10:21pm] [10:21pm](+ Tony ) Its snowing like a bitch here
[10:21pm] [10:21pm]( Bob ) Later
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I will look forward to bob coming in to sort out his sound cards woes.

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