Windows stops after logon

Hello All,

This one is driving me nuts, I can't pin down where the problem is but this is whats happening.

Novell 6.0 SP5 NDS enviroment
Client 4.9 (both SP1 and SP 2 running around, problem is indiscriminant)
Windows XP clients

User logs in, everything appears fine... but the login scripts never start and neither does the desktop. all the user sees is the back ground.

Pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL brings up task manger, from wich you can click file -> run -> explorer desktop comes up and system works (except the stuff that was in logon script as it never executed)

Setting the logon scripts to run asyncronusly (continue loading windows and not wait for logn script to run) makes the problem intermittent at best, could be back tommorow, or in a month...

I have trimmed the logon script of all the extra stuff for systems that we are no longer supporting or need to try to eliminate it as the source.

any ideas?

BTW, we are not using NMAS and it is disabled on all client systems

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Originally Posted by RejectionMan

Hello All,

This one is driving me nuts, I can't pin down where the problem is but this is whats happening.

Novell 6.0 SP5 NDS enviroment
Client 4.9 (both SP1 and SP 2 running around, problem is indiscriminant)
Windows XP clients

User logs in, everything appears fine... but the login scripts never start and neither does the desktop. all the user sees is the back ground.

Pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL brings up task manger, from wich you can click file -> run -> explorer desktop comes up and system works (except the stuff that was in logon script as it never executed)

Setting the logon scripts to run asyncronusly (continue loading windows and not wait for logn script to run) makes the problem intermittent at best, could be back tommorow, or in a month...

I have trimmed the logon script of all the extra stuff for systems that we are no longer supporting or need to try to eliminate it as the source.

any ideas?

BTW, we are not using NMAS and it is disabled on all client systems

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Couple of questions..had this just occured or have you always had this problem?
Do you run pure IP or is IPX enabled as well? Is your client set on 802.1?

Some have had this for some time (had client 4.83 upgraded trying to fix...) but since i have started putting out more new systems from image it has gotten worse and more wide spread as well as less predicable.

Computers are IP only printers have IPX so that NDPS will work
Where do i tell it to set Network Type? (microsoft guy trying to beat head through Novell world and MS conditioning)

Am trying setting SLP to use V2 rather than auto as some of the other sites mentioned that this resolved other issues. (aka cannot find tree but thats another thread for another physical site)

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Originally Posted by RejectionMan

Some have had this for some time (had client 4.83 upgraded trying to fix...) but since i have started putting out more new systems from image it has gotten worse and more wide spread as well as less predicable.

Computers are IP only printers have IPX so that NDPS will work
Where do i tell it to set Network Type? (microsoft guy trying to beat head through Novell world and MS conditioning)

Am trying setting SLP to use V2 rather than auto as some of the other sites mentioned that this resolved other issues. (aka cannot find tree but thats another thread for another physical site)

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Rightclick the red N on the desktop, there you will find different choices (I'm not at work right now). Go to user options, there you can set the network type. Was it able to work before the upgrade? (I swear some upgrades just cause more problems!) :eek2:

ive seen that some where, but just can't seem to find it...

in the interm this looks promising http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10090679.htm
could sewar that 4.90 SP2 is part of the image but your right these client updates... have seen it put older files in and break stuff. (strange i recal some one saying the MS novell client always worked the best casue it just works)

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Originally Posted by RejectionMan

ive seen that some where, but just can't seem to find it...

in the interm this looks promising http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10090679.htm
could sewar that 4.90 SP2 is part of the image but your right these client updates... have seen it put older files in and break stuff. (strange i recal some one saying the MS novell client always worked the best casue it just works)

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I never had luck with the MS novell client working. Is that what you have?

What if you remove the login script altogether, does the problem go away?

Would you mind posting a copy of the login script here, if there isn't anything secretive in there?

Have you run a DSREPAIR just in case something is corrupt (like the login script)?

no were not running the MS novell client,

Ill looking to the DSREPAIR

as to the login script, it looks like it never gets to that, unless its hanging while attempting to draw the window.
*SCRIPT FOLLOWS server names/file locations/sensitive groups/apps/account names removed with ******

MAP DISPLAY OFF


WRITE " "
WRITE "DOS Specifics: %OS %OS_VERSION for %SMACHINE %MACHINE"
WRITE " "

MAP ROOT S1:=SYS:PUBLIC
*MAP ROOT S2:=******/SYS:PUBLIC\%MACHINE\%OS\%OS_VERSION

WRITE " "
WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %LOGIN_NAME "
WRITE " Date: %DAY_OF_WEEK, %MONTH_NAME %DAY, %YEAR"
WRITE " Time: %HOUR:%MINUTE %AM_PM"
WRITE " "


IF "%OS" = "WINNT" THEN BEGIN
Write ""
ELSE
COMSPEC = S2:\COMMAND.COM
END


MAP ROOT G: = ******/VOL1:USERS\%LOGIN_NAME


MAP F: = *******/SYS:
MAP J: = *******/VOL1:
MAP H: = ******/APPS:

* The next line is here just to show you how to do this....
* IF MEMBER OF "EVERYONE" THEN MAP K: = ******/SYS:


IF MEMBER OF "******" THEN BEGIN
* ATTACH ******/%LOGIN_NAME
MAP I: = ******/SYS:
MAP S16: = *****/SYS:APPS\******\PROGRAMS
* MAP S16: = *****/SYS:APPS\******
END

IF MEMBER OF "******" THEN BEGIN
ATTACH ******/%LOGIN_NAME
MAP L: = ******/VOL1:
END

IF MEMBER OF "*****" THEN BEGIN
ATTACH ********/%LOGIN_NAME
MAP I: = **********/SYS:
END

IF MEMBER OF "LOTUS4" THEN MAP S16: = *******/SYS:LOTSHARE

IF MEMBER OF "PURCHASING" THEN MAP ROOT K: = ******/VOL1:USERS/PURCH
IF MEMBER OF "CONSTRUCTION" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****/VOL1:USERS/CONSTR
IF MEMBER OF "PULPSALES" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****/VOL1:USERS/PSALES
IF MEMBER OF "******" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****
IF MEMBER OF "SYSTEMS" THEN MAP ROOT K: = ****
IF MEMBER OF "PULPACCT" THEN MAP ROOT K: = ****
IF MEMBER OF "MNGT" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****
IF MEMBER OF "HUMAN" THEN MAP ROOT K: = ****
IF MEMBER OF "SHOP" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****
IF MEMBER OF "WOODLANDS" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *****
IF MEMBER OF "****************" THEN MAP ROOT Q: = *******
IF MEMBER OF "*************" THEN MAP ROOT Q: = *******
IF MEMBER OF "************" THEN MAP ROOT Q: = *****

IF MEMBER OF "LOGISTICS" THEN BEGIN
MAP ROOT K: = *******/VOL1:USERS/LOGISTICS
MAP ROOT L: = *******/VOL1:USERS/PSALES
End

IF MEMBER OF "ACCOUNTING" THEN BEGIN
MAP ROOT L: = *******/VOL1:\USERS\ACCOUNT
Write "ACCOUNTING"
rem IF MEMBER OF "ACCTWCTEXEMPT" THEN BEGIN
rem Write ""
rem ELSE
rem MAP ROOT K: = ***********/VOL1:WORKGRPS
rem END
END

IF MEMBER OF "Lumbertrack Users" THEN BEGIN
MAP ROOT O: = *******/VOL1:USERS\*********
END

IF MEMBER OF "**********" THEN BEGIN
MAP ROOT M: = ******
END

IF MEMBER OF "LUMBER" THEN MAP ROOT K: = *******/VOL1:USERS/LUMBER

IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "*****" THEN Goto ABSEND

IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "*****" THEN MAP DEL H:

IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "******" THEN MAP ROOT L:=*******\VOL1:WW\WORKGRPS\EXCHANGE
IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "******" THEN MAP ROOT L:=*******\VOL1:WW\WORKGRPS\EXCHANGE
IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "******" THEN MAP ROOT L:=*******\VOL1:WW\WORKGRPS\EXCHANGE

*********** Lotus Notes Backup Program ***********
* IF MEMBER OF "SYSTEMS" THEN BEGIN

IF "%OS_VERSION" = "V5.00" THEN GOTO META_SKIPS

DOS SET USERNAME ="%LOGIN_NAME"
DOS SET OS ="%OS"

IF "%LOGIN_NAME" = "******" THEN BEGIN
WRITE " "
Else
#F:\Notesbkp\Notesbkp.bat
End

META_SKIPS:

* END
*********** Lotus Notes Backup Program ***********



rem ************************************************** *****
rem ***** 9/20/2004 ************************
* SAP UPDATER

IF NOT MEMBER OF "SAP_SKIP_INI_UPDATE" THEN BEGIN
#********************
END

* END SAP Updater
rem ************************************************** ******

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Originally Posted by RejectionMan

IF "%OS" = "WINNT" THEN BEGIN
Write ""
ELSE
COMSPEC = S2:\COMMAND.COM
END

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I'm still trying to figure out why this is required. :confused:

Other than the fact your login script is really long, I don't see anything wrong with it.

You didn't tell us if clients could login if you took the entire login script out.

Do you use Norton AV? Check this out: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10084102.htm

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Originally Posted by MacGyver

I'm still trying to figure out why this is required. :confused:

Other than the fact your login script is really long, I don't see anything wrong with it.

You didn't tell us if clients could login if you took the entire login script out.

Do you use Norton AV? Check this out: http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10084102.htm

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that tells windows 2000 and XP to xcopy to do some stuff implicity that NT used to do (/Y option is not supported in NT so it wont run command with that option, but 2K and XP freak out without it)

McAfee AV

Maybe you should consider using an xcopy replacement like http://www.xxcopy.com/ Trying to get one OS to use another's command interpreter is asking for trouble, IMHO. But that's probably not your problem.

And unless you tell me if removing the entire login script makes the problem go away, there's not much more I can suggest.

no further problems since the following was applied:

Client 4.9 SP2 + support pack
SLP Protocol set to v2 only
preferd server set

looks like it needs sp2 on XP clients running 4.9 SP1 just as the SP2 fix list sugests