When was the last time you defraged?

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December 24th, 2003, 12:48 PM
+Daemon+

When was the last time you defraged?

http://daemonprojects.com/images/images/defrag_wow.jpg

ok so I put it off for a while (6 months)
December 24th, 2003, 12:51 PM
inferno_gn

Hi there,

OMG! *lol* I defrag about once a week or when I do lots of reinstalling or uninstalling or cleaning my HD up.

Ju Leon...
December 24th, 2003, 12:52 PM
Johnny Blaze

hi There,

*lol* can't remember

,Sailor Moon
December 24th, 2003, 01:02 PM
Stalemate

Yesterday for laptop, a week ago for desktop.

That screenshot you posted scares me. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
December 24th, 2003, 01:11 PM
Major Kong

Quote:

Originally Posted by a d e p t

Yesterday for laptop, a week ago for desktop.

That screenshot you posted scares me. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Ditto all around... :thumbs:
December 24th, 2003, 01:29 PM
inferno_gn

Hi there,

I pity your computer. Do tell us how long it takes to defrag that much fragmented HD...

Ju Leon...
December 24th, 2003, 01:32 PM
+Daemon+

only took 1 hour :)

lol.. ok defraged

https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2003/12/1.jpg
December 24th, 2003, 01:36 PM
inferno_gn

Hi there,

An hour? Boy, even I do defrag regularly, it still takes me longer.

Ju Leon...
December 24th, 2003, 01:43 PM
+Daemon+

yay Photoshop opens up fast now :)
December 24th, 2003, 01:44 PM
Major Kong

He's using Diskeeper. It's much better than Microsofts Disk defragging tool.

Gee +Daemon+ I see your down to 40% free space, is Santa bringin' ya a new 120 GB HD for Christmas? ;)
December 24th, 2003, 01:48 PM
+Daemon+

ya he should for my work comp here :( but I do have linux on this same disk :)
December 24th, 2003, 03:33 PM
amyb

ashamed to say it

Been a long time since any defrag has gone on. :sad:
December 24th, 2003, 04:12 PM
Larommi

I am having hardware lags in one of the games I played so I defragged a couple weeks ago.
December 24th, 2003, 05:12 PM
Orangeman

You're supposed to use Diskeeper Lite to Defrag every day!

That's the purpose behind it. Oh well, take some people longer. Merry Christmas.

Orangeman :thumbs:
December 24th, 2003, 05:34 PM
+Daemon+

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orangeman

You're supposed to use Diskeeper Lite to Defrag every day!

That's the purpose behind it. Oh well, take some people longer. Merry Christmas.

Orangeman :thumbs:

aye, I used to, but then I was ding some heavy programming and graphics, and it would lag my system down so I turned it off lol
December 26th, 2003, 12:28 AM
DonJ

I try to defrag every 30 days or so. If I go longer, it really takes a while to run. BTW, the WinME version of Defrag.exe works about 3 times as fast as the Win98 version...it runs great in Win98 and it really does make a difference.
December 26th, 2003, 01:06 AM
inferno_gn

Hi there,

I so hate Windows ME....

Ju Leon...
December 26th, 2003, 01:29 AM
FatalException0E

We recomend our customers defrag then reboot their WinNT/2K servers weekly. Sometimes we find out some bonehead hasn't done it in 6 months or so. (Hey, my system is running really slow. Can you guys come check it out)

I've seen worse than what you posted. I also have an NT box at work that Diskeeper won't run on. I shudder to think what it'll look like when I finally figure it out.

BTW, now that we're talking about it.....Diskeeper 6.0, WinNT4 SP6. The first time running Diskeeper after installing it, it pops up a little message box where you check 'Do not show this again' and click OK. When I click OK, nothing happens....like the button has no procedure at all on it. Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
December 26th, 2003, 01:27 PM
Sp0cK

PerfectDisk 6.0!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatalException0E

We recomend our customers defrag then reboot their WinNT/2K servers weekly. Sometimes we find out some bonehead hasn't done it in 6 months or so. (Hey, my system is running really slow. Can you guys come check it out)

I've seen worse than what you posted. I also have an NT box at work that Diskeeper won't run on. I shudder to think what it'll look like when I finally figure it out.

BTW, now that we're talking about it.....Diskeeper 6.0, WinNT4 SP6. The first time running Diskeeper after installing it, it pops up a little message box where you check 'Do not show this again' and click OK. When I click OK, nothing happens....like the button has no procedure at all on it. Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?

I was at school and a buddy of mine asked me to fix his AOL when I had to reboot his PC and he was frantic and said "no, it takes a long time to start up". He was right it took nearly 15 minutes!! I had defrag analyse his HD and it was 98.9% fragmented!! "When did you use defrag last?", he said "what's defrat". His PC was 3.5 years old!!! So it had ..... you guessed it.. 3.5 years of defragmentation!! I installed PerfectDisk and I told him not to touch his PC till it was finished... Anyone want to know how long it took????

36.3 hours.... Yes... well over a day and a half!! He SH_IT:butt: when his PC booted in 45 seconds and iexplorer started in 3-5 seconds vs 1-3 minutes....

He now defrags every night!!!

Merry Un Christmas!!
December 26th, 2003, 03:32 PM
drewmaztech

At home defrag automatically runs weekly. Here at work I do it maybe once a month - but there's not a lot of file action going on.

I try to do the servers once a month. Although when the defrag it done, there's still loads of fragmented files on the system drive, even after running it several times.
December 26th, 2003, 08:22 PM
Budster64

[QUOTE=Major Kong]He's using Diskeeper. It's much better than Microsofts Disk defragging tool. QUOTE]

The MS defrag tool is made by the same company (Executive Software) as Diskeeper. Works but it's not as good as their full blown version.
December 26th, 2003, 08:25 PM
Budster64

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewmaztech

At home defrag automatically runs weekly. Here at work I do it maybe once a month - but there's not a lot of file action going on.

I try to do the servers once a month. Although when the defrag it done, there's still loads of fragmented files on the system drive, even after running it several times.

Probably because there are files in use due to services or processes running. Try shutting down all services and processes, defragging and then either reboot or restart the services.
December 26th, 2003, 08:25 PM
TripleRLtd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp0cK

I was at school and a buddy of mine asked me to fix his AOL when I had to reboot his PC and he was frantic and said "no, it takes a long time to start up". He was right it took nearly 15 minutes!! I had defrag analyse his HD and it was 98.9% fragmented!! "When did you use defrag last?", he said "what's defrat". His PC was 3.5 years old!!! So it had ..... you guessed it.. 3.5 years of defragmentation!! I installed PerfectDisk and I told him not to touch his PC till it was finished... Anyone want to know how long it took????

36.3 hours.... Yes... well over a day and a half!! He SH_IT:butt: when his PC booted in 45 seconds and iexplorer started in 3-5 seconds vs 1-3 minutes....

He now defrags every night!!!

Merry Un Christmas!!

Ouch!!!!
Sometimes, the simplest solution!!!
Good job, Spock.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
PS
What does Merry Un Christmas mean???
December 26th, 2003, 08:27 PM
TripleRLtd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budster64

Probably because there are files in use due to services or processes running. Try shutting down all services and processes, defragging and then either reboot or restart the services.

Or, Safe Mode!
But, yeah, that is always the way to try first.
December 26th, 2003, 09:44 PM
Matridom

The MS defrag tool is made by the same company (Executive Software) as Diskeeper. Works but it's not as good as their full blown version.[/QUOTE]

That is correct, defrag in 2k/xp is by exexutive software done under contract to MS.

Diskeeper however is aproximatly 3 times faster, more thurough and can defrag more then one hard disk at a time, it includes; Boot time defrag, frag guard and the set & forget... All make diskeeper worth every penny to purchase it.

My servers are set to defrag nightly, my laptop defrags whenever i get around to it.. wich comes out to about monthly.
December 26th, 2003, 11:26 PM
WebHead

Ooops! Defrag. I new I was forgetting something. :eek:

Before I got this new disk, I think it was prolly like 2 years or something. Hehe. I used to live by scandisk and defrag back in the Win95, 98 days. But then I just got lazy. :p
December 27th, 2003, 12:51 AM
Sp0cK

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Ouch!!!!
Sometimes, the simplest solution!!!
Good job, Spock.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
PS
What does Merry Un Christmas mean???

Today is the 26th, well actually the 27th(12:50am)....... :drink:Christmas is the 25th not prior or after; So when it's not Christmas I can't say Merry Christmas... so I said Merry UN Christmas.... does that explain it?
December 27th, 2003, 06:18 AM
NooNoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp0cK

Today is the 26th, well actually the 27th(12:50am)....... :drink:Christmas is the 25th not prior or after; So when it's not Christmas I can't say Merry Christmas... so I said Merry UN Christmas.... does that explain it?

It was perfectly clear to me before... oh and a happy unbirthday too! :thumbs2:
December 27th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Outcoded

Probably about 1996
December 27th, 2003, 08:57 PM
DocPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outcoded

Probably about 1996

MAC's don't need de-fragged much..... :p
December 28th, 2003, 08:04 AM
Matridom

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocPC

MAC's don't need de-fragged much..... :p

Ya MAC loving hippy...
December 28th, 2003, 08:31 AM
deepblu

Quote:

Originally Posted by +Daemon+

only took 1 hour :)

lol.. ok defraged

http://daemonprojects.com/images/ima...rag_better.jpg

Looks like you need a boot-time pass to consolidate your system files and directories, also to move the pagefile to the outer rim of the drive.

Do this and you will see better performance from the drive.
December 28th, 2003, 10:09 AM
Radical Dreamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocPC

MAC's don't need de-fragged much..... :p

What he really means is that there is no helping them....
December 28th, 2003, 10:44 AM
NooNoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepblu

Looks like you need a boot-time pass to consolidate your system files and directories, also to move the pagefile to the outer rim of the drive.

Do this and you will see better performance from the drive.

Deepblu - to which rim do you refer?
December 28th, 2003, 02:04 PM
deepblu

Polynesia baby

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Deepblu - to which rim do you refer?

NooNoo .. I have a soft spot in my heart for the Pacific Rim .. you? :)
December 28th, 2003, 02:13 PM
NooNoo

Im serious deepblu - the rim of the hard drive platter? Which one? Which side of the platter?
December 28th, 2003, 03:21 PM
deepblu

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Im serious deepblu - the rim of the hard drive platter? Which one? Which side of the platter?

I have the feeling that I am about to be "re-educated" .. so with that in mind, here goes..

"On a 3.5" diameter disk, the innermost track is about 3" long and the outermost about 11" long. So you can read almost 4 times as much data from one revolution of the outermost track"
December 28th, 2003, 03:32 PM
NooNoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepblu

I have the feeling that I am about to be "re-educated" .. so with that in mind, here goes..

"On a 3.5" diameter disk, the innermost track is about 3" long and the outermost about 11" long. So you can read almost 4 times as much data from one revolution of the outermost track"

yup most definitely - the read is well worth it.
December 28th, 2003, 03:41 PM
deepblu

Nice link

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

yup most definitely - the read is well worth it.

That's some good info...

So , is not the lower density of the outside tracks compensated by the higher velocity?
December 28th, 2003, 03:42 PM
NooNoo

along with zoning and goodness knows what else, yes

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