Haven't been able to run update from grisoft for last few days?
Had to manually download update.
Anyone else having same problem??
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Haven't been able to run update from grisoft for last few days?
Had to manually download update.
Anyone else having same problem??
I did notice the past day or two that it wasnt updating and the manual update was hanging. I havn't really looked into it as of yet. I was assuming it was either a temporary thing or it was my network connection going flaky on me again.
same here , had to manually d/load it ,,,,,interestingly it was a rather large file this time ,,,3 times size of normal.
it did d/load once and said "bad crc" ,,,,,
so i did it manually
freddy
My update worked this morning. I'm at Virus Database 393 Release Date 3/5/04 on AVG Program Version 6.0.614
Mine is told to check everyday.
probably if you ran an update now it would work.
I have not been able to update for 3 days?
Mine is working now!!
Found this suggestion and it worked immediately for me:
Navigate to your AVG install directory and rename your existing url.ini file to url.iniold.
Copy the following and paste into notepad and save it as url.ini. Put this new file into your AVG install directory. You'll now have 3 options to select from with www.grisoft.com being the default.
[SERVER_NAME]
1=free.grisoft.cz
2=ftp.grisoft.com
3=www.grisoft.com
[SERVER_URL]
1=http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe
2=ftp.grisoft.com/pub/softw/60/fe/
3=http://www.grisoft.com/softw/60/fe/
Actual URL=3
You have done it again Platypus.
Works like a charm. Thanks.
yeah, thanx Platypus. I never knew that little tweak. :thumbs:
Yes Platypus, a successful solution - and just when I was beginning to lose faith in AVG.
Still, they have to take some responsibility -
----- Original Message -----
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: ADDENDUM: AVG - Product download instability an issue
Well, more 'server mismatches', corrupted downloads or just plain stalls here so I did a little digging online and it certainly appears I'm not the only one who is finding the previously excellent AVG 6 Free a challenge to maintain recently.
Fortunately, on WinDrivers Forums the problem was not only discussed ( http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56361 ) but a solution found.
Still, its too bad Grisoft couldn't post this solution on its webpage - even for Free users - as the problem is obviously at your end. And its that sort of thing that makes people question the Support they might expect on a commercial product.
Pity.
----- Original Message -----
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:53 AM
Subject: AVG - Product download instability an issue
Continued difficulties in contacting AVG update - http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe/avg6info.ctf - either the update stalls or initially downloads a corrupted version - continues to haunt my AVG 6 Free.
I can understand you not supporting the Free version as a cost saving issue, however if you are hoping that trying AVG 6 will encourage users to upgrade to the paid AVG 7 version it needs to be shown as stable and easy to use.
Maybe I should stick with Free and cope with these regular failures (there is no server status available on your website to know if its just a busy time for the server or far worse) or maybe give up on what I believed (and promoted to colleagues) to be a worthwhile product and look elsewhere for AV protection. There are certainly other 'free' (and supported) AV programs out there.
I hope that whatever issues are currently plaguing Grisoft are resolved soon.
----- Original Message -----
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: ADDENDUM: Website needs download status
Please note the following has begun to appear in a dialog box when AVG attempts to update -
Server Mismatch
It appears one of the necessary files is missing. Please report to [email protected]
This suggests to me the problem resides at your end and is not a problem with the installation of AVG here.
Please advise.
----- Original Message -----
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: Website needs download status
I'm trying AVG Free but recent attempts to update virus files has stalled, so I'm less convinced on the 'stability' of the program or update site.
A full uninstall and reinstall was tried at my end, but still the 'free.grisoft.cz' server is not replying - so I'm assuming its a problem at your end.
Website could benefit, therefore (even for the free users) with status of your servers information.
Thanks for your attention to this matter
I started trialing avast, because of this.
Also IE 6 sp1 seems to have broken AVG's email protection.
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56417
I think I like avast.
http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html
If this 'patch' hadn't worked I had full intention of ripping AVG out and going with an alternative.
I was looking at Avast! (if nothing else, it includes Support and its own User Forum, unlike AVG) but frankly, scanning some of the forum issues put me off trying it. Ditto Anti-Vir.
Meanwhile, I believe you are correct - the AVG's mail protection does not seem to work with IE SP1/OE6, though I didn't have it on my machine pre-SP1 so no way I can say for sure my results would have been different. On the other hand, I've never had the troubles as reported and 'fixed' as reported on your other link.
Its a pity AVG's mail protector doesn't work, but I'm pretty neurotic about incoming mail on my own - and, as I said above, I'm not convinced the alternatives are an improvement...
But I hope Avast! works for you...
so far so good!
oh yes it does! :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by bazcook
Oh no it doesn't!
(And this ain't no Panto)
Or maybe it does and its just not very good....
get what you pay for....
And that explains Norton and McAfee how?
;)
Ah that's easy, it's the inverse rule.
What's that? The more you pay the worse the software will be?
Well the .ini update worked like a damn for a couple of weeks and now my AVG hasn't been able to connect and update since March 26th - in either auto or manual mode, or using any of the three download sites.
I get the notification that it is 'Downloading the Control File Update' of 343 Bytes, but after 3 minutes of no traffic it times out and the program closes.
Anyone else experiencing problems again?
I guess too many people discovered the repair and that's kacked Grisoft's servers...
Plan C, anyone?
I was just able to do a manual update from free.grisoft.cz which took me from definitions dated 3/26 to 3/29 it sat there staring at me for about 1 minute to 1.5 minutes, then kicked in and worked??!!??
my scheduled updates had not updated since 3/26 from the www.grisoft.com server, and ftp.grisoft.com seems to be the most responsive right now.
I'm going to leave mine sit on ftp.grisoft.com and see how it goes. I know there are alotttttttaaaaa viruses/worms in high distribution right now, so I'm gonna wait out the storm and see how she goes, but I'm not jumping ship yet.
I too had the same problem with only being able to download this 343 byte 'control file update' yesterday. This appears to be a useless file. I just deleted it. And then I went to get my update file here: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_updt6.php?lng=fe
This is the foolproof method I would imagine, and it's very simple too.
So in my 'teh Greeter' role .. welcome to windrivers Luxman :thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luxman
The link you give 'alludes' to the real reason behind all this 'not updating' buiness..
Simple answer ... take it off & get yourself a shinney new download with the right definition files included ;)Quote:
..In order to perform any AVG 6.0 update to a version higher than 516, it will be necessary to have previously performed update 516. Check the version you currently have by selecting the "Information" tab in AVG Control Center - "Program Version." If the version number displayed is lower than 6.0.516, it will be necessary to run the update 516 first...
..for free, I still think this is pretty damned good ! :)
Well, my AVG is v6.0.644 (02/09/2003) so by my math that's not the problem as far as the program installed here is concerned.
I just tried the .cz, .ftp and com sites several times each (@0730 EST) and each failed - each with their own different dialog box explaining why.
I guess it's time to do the true manual install as suggested by Luxman and hope that - eventually - Grisoft will get their act together again.
Hell of a way to endear yourself to users though...
So pay for it then ! that way you are supposed to be guaranteed a connection to their servers, which with 'free' you are not .. read the fine print !Quote:
Originally Posted by bazcook
btw .. plan C would be to stop griping about a free product, & go get one you pay for then you can 'moan legitimately ' ... what the hell do you expect for Free ? https://forums.windrivers.com/
Ah yes confuse-ed, but if you're offering a free (Lite) version in the hope that satisfaction will encourage a user (or someone they may talk to) to fork over the money for the full version, you have to show the free version to be stable and operates as advertised, *especially* when you offer **no** technical support at all. Not even a Users' Forum.
If you can't offer that, what are the chances people will trust the paid version?
People use free AV products because they recognise that some sort of product is a required part of a computer these days and partly because of the up-front cost of many of the retail products can be prohibitive. Many users of free products have also come to the them having already tried the retail products and found them lacking - their 'bang for the buck' not worth it.
They resent the bloatware, the sluggish behaviour of their computers with it installed, the software conflicts, the lack of any real meaningful Support and the inevitable squeezing of even more money from purchasers to remain 'subscribers'.
Thus spake I.
Now - since the three download sites within the AVG product seem to be down, I went to the updates download page as suggested by Luxman and found that clicking on the appropriate hyperlink garnered no response either. I tried a 'Save Target as...' as well and nothing, but I noted the download site was back to the free.grisoft.cz which isn't responding in AVG.
Hmmm.
As an experiment, I went directly to Grisoft's true Home site (www.grisoft.cz) and worked my way to that site's AVG update page.
http://www.grisoft.cz/cz/cz_updt6.php
And while my Czech is nothing to write home about - okay, non-existent - it appeared that the appropriate update was of the same name, size and date as its English site counterpoint, so I took a chance and tried a download.
It started immmediately and I installed it into Grisoft | AVG | Updates with no problem at all. Starting AVG it recognised it (in English) and updated itself.
So it seems, for whatever reason, the servers (or links) handling the 'English' downloads are buggered while - for the moment at least - the Czech site still works.
Hope this helps.
So, noting the struggles above even with the modified .ini additional addresses and discovering the Grisoft direct download page (english) once again directs to free.grisoft.cz site (which is problematic in AVG), I then wondered what the address to the successful (czech) download was.
Turns out it yet another address to those we already know. Realizing that, I structured the info to follow the original fix and have added it to my .ini file so that it now looks like this -
[SERVER_NAME]
1=free.grisoft.cz
2=ftp.grisoft.com
3=www.grisoft.com
4=download.grisoft.cz
[SERVER_URL]
1=http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe
2=ftp.grisoft.com/pub/softw/60/fe/
3=http://www.grisoft.com/softw/60/fe/
4=http://download.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe/
Actual URL=3
Rebooting, this gives me 4 addresses now in the drop down list in AVG. It still defaults to the www.grisoft.com, but that can be changed. I tried an update via the additional address, but as I am now up-to-date, all I got was the dialog box saying that my AVG is already recent. This in itself I take as a good thing as there has been a response back from the server.
Don't know how long - or even if - this will work (the danger of telling people of a work-around) but its another option!
Nice find bazcook, the files on both the English and Czech sites appear to be exactly the same files, and I would presume that they indeed are. I too updated with no problems at all from the file from the Czech site.
I have only started using AVG about 1 week ago and have not encountered any problems updating until 2 days ago, like the rest of you. Is this normal procedure with AVG? Or is this a rare occurance?
Well at least we now have 2 additional options to access files outside of the URL's in the program.
Should the "Actual URL=3" be changed to 4?Quote:
Originally Posted by bazcook
i,ve just been to a friends property (landlord of a pub) ,,,to sort his machine ,,,he has msblaster on it ,,,,he,s done well ???? only got it yesterday ,,,
little pendrive around my kneck (pint of beer in my hand) ,,,,loaded the shemantic ,,,msblaster killer ,,,,loaded adware ,,,not a lot ,,,,,,spybot ,,,tried updating ,,,*ing server was down. ,,,,avg (about a mth old ) ,,,,,NO WAY COULD I GET A DOWNLOAD. !!!!! ,,,,so i look a right pillock.
if they are gonna offer a product ,,,,,THEN DO THE RESEARCH ,,,,MAKE SURE YOUR SERVERS ARE WORKING.
the next time i get a failure (d/load) ,,,,,,i will not recommend avg ,,FULL STOP
bad day ,,,,,,i got drunk F.O.C.
Actually amacd55, it doesn't make a difference. I wondered that too.
I've discovered that "Actual URL=3" is simply the default setting - so it shows the grisoft.com site first on the drop down list within AVG.
You can choose to set it to 4 for download.grisoft.cz, 2 for the ftp site - I'm sure you get the general drift as to how it works...
Anyhoo, all this can be changed outside of the .ini file simply by choosing the preferred default download location from the drop down and then hitting 'Apply'.
This I have learned simply by experiment.
Now let's hold our breath and see how long it lasts....
Luxman, you asked whether this was a regular occurrance in AVG?
NO, I have been using it now for over 2 years, and have been very happy with it.
Only started having these very annoying, update problems this month.
Overall, I am very happy, but yes it is testing all of us. As stated earlier its FREE, so we cant' complain too much.
I will be sticking with it, even if it means doing manual updates for now.
Ok heffo, thanks for the info.
So how is it a bad day when you get drunk free of charge .. that's a good day !Quote:
Originally Posted by freddy
& I'll say the same to you as others .. pay for it if you want 'guaranteed', as for going to a 'client' with it & then failing to get a download, well go prepared :p, there are of course other free ones each with their own 'issues' ;)
I like it & never have any download problems at all (in however long its been out)..
Quote:
Originally Posted by frogster400
Very nice first post, arse pimple.
Oh, welcome to Windrivers! :rolleyes:
So, all the sites are down now, huh? That didn't last long.
Damn, I knew I shouldn't have posted that work-around! ;)
Though maybe if the Czech download crashes they'll be more aware of the problem? Or not.
Meanwhile....
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: AVG - The users are restless
You would will be well advised to check out the below - especially if you're hoping to maintain any sort of user satisfaction and repeat business - for either AVG 7 or the Free version - and avoid 'bad press' via the net other more 'legitimate' computer news sources should this info spread...
Good luck!
http://forums.windrivers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=42 - and most especially,
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56361
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=57009
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=51885
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showforum=12 - and most especially,
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=151599
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...153301&hl=AVG7
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Well I must say that I tested [download.grisoft.cz] at least 12 times or more yesterday to see if the update files were on that server, and in all my attempts, they were obtainable with no problems.
Yesterday, [free.grisoft.cz] did not appear to have any of the update files on that server. At this very moment though, all of the update files are obtainable on that server.
So, at this very moment, all update files are available from both servers.
Yup, seems to work now.
So...
The forced tweaks to give AVG Free's Update Manager a selection of download sites seems to have helped (I have the most success with download.grisoft.com) but I wonder if anyone else has this situation -
I have the Update Manager set to check daily for downloads and update the new definitions as applicable. Now I know that sometimes there will not be new set - or the date of the current set is less than one day old - but a number of times I have found that, at the appointed time, AVG does not go online and do a check - and when I have then done it manually, sure enough there is a new set and the update takes place. This doesn't always happen - sometimes it does activate, finds the update and installs - or it activates, finds nothing and exits.
Odd.
I have noted that AVG will do a scheduled scan within a few minutes of the set time and wondered about that with Update Manager, but I have watched and if it's going to check, its pretty timely - and if its not, it just doesn't.
Anyone else? Or an explanation?
There is a small file it downloads - it uses that to check whether the larger download is necessary or not read about AVG6INFO.CTF here