i am thinking of upgrading my XP Pro systme tt Vista prefrabley Ultimate which Edition would be best the 32bit or 64bit.
Are there are lot more isses with the 64bit driver wise and with programs? and is it really twice as fast like they say?
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i am thinking of upgrading my XP Pro systme tt Vista prefrabley Ultimate which Edition would be best the 32bit or 64bit.
Are there are lot more isses with the 64bit driver wise and with programs? and is it really twice as fast like they say?
There is no speed or performance difference between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows. Both run at the same relative performance level. And yes, there are a number of device manufacturers who have not yet provided 64-bit drivers for their hardware. No drivers means the device won't work. I would suggest you stick with 32-bit Vista.
Thanks for the reply also I am considering Home \premium or Ulitmate there is not much differance but quite a lot of differnce in price is it worth the extra to get Ultimate over the Home Premium
Also if you get an upgrade version can you still do a clean install provided that you supply the installer with the XP CD like with previous versions?
I believe there is some confusion here
Vakas said !!!!!!!!
Are there are lot more isses with the 64bit driver wise and with programs?
Program wise there is very little issues with 64 bit. Anything significant may be in versions of antivirus that are old or something like that.
Now as to speed
I believe and i have not tested this but others agree that 64 bit is slightly faster. I do say it is more stable that's for sure.
Now as to the drivers. That's a problem only with poor hardware manufacturers. Any mainstream hardware manufacturers has 64 bit driver support for almost all hardware. Anything that isn't supported is usually poor hardware or oddball stuff.
Finally I have used 64 bit for over 2 years exclusively and its been basically an easy transition.
I can't tell you if it's worth getting Ultimate over Home Premium, you'd need to make that decision based on what each version offers versus what you need and the cost involved. Start here for some research notes:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...s/default.aspx
Oh and regarding upgrades - no, you can't do a clean install with an upgrade version as you could in the past. There is an undocumented way to do it but it is unsupported and Microsoft could, at a future date, trigger on this workaround and possibly invalidate your copy of Windows.
My system is new so all my haedware except my scanner which I have had for a few years should be ok with the 64bit version.
Can you use the same software as you wsould on a 32bit version or does some software cause isues?
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Originally Posted by Ferrit
64bit vista has a 32bit software ability, so that is not usually an issue.
Your scanner may not have a 64bit driver... you need to check that carefully or post the make/model here if you are unsure.
Thanks fot the info....
i did have a look for a 64bit driver for my scanner but did not find one.
It's a CanoScan 3200F
so do you think I should go for the 64bit version over the 32bit all things considered although it might mean buying a new scanner.
It will mean buying a new scanner canon are quite explicit So you have to decide, 32bit and keep scanner, 64bit and get new scanner....
Other than the scanner do you think the 64bit will be a better option? i will buy a scanner if i have to
I have built both.... no difference between them EXCEPT that you can load much more RAM in 64bit... but then what the hell do you need more than 4gig for anyway??!!
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Originally Posted by NooNoo
In regards to the versions, i`ve found that 64 bit is a little more stable due to increased security features. For example, in 64 bit, vista will not allow you to run unsigned drivers. This may seem minor, but it blocks a lot of unreliable drivers and malware/root kits from getting into the system.Quote:
640K ought to be enough for anybody. - Bill Gates, 1981
I have 4 gig of RAM don't think I will need more than that although my board supports it so do you think it's better to go for the 32bi version will save me buying a new scanner too?
Also i was looking at either Home premium or ultimate, I can only find 4 real differences can someone outline these in more detail?
1. Protect against hardware failure...
2. Scan, Fax, Cop and recrive document images...
3. Better protect you data against loss...
4. Remotely access you business resources...
I had a look on the Microsoft site and it turns out you can dowload the backup and restore utility found in the Ultimate version and use it with Home Premium. My scanner has it's own sacanning software and I don't use my pc to fax so i guess I don't need that. I hardly encrypt my data and use remote desktop so you think I should go for Home premium over Ultimate and save £50?
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Originally Posted by NooNoo
For most users right now, 64 and 32 bit work about equally well. But there are already games like The Witcher that are happier with 4 Gigs or better memory and you can expect to see other memory intensive applications following right along. I think Vista 64 offers a bit of insurance in terms of longevity and expandability that you won't have in a 32 bit OS.
Vakas, right now I don't think I can contribute more to your decision making other than to say, if you have a restricted budget, then 32bit home premium would be sensible... but if you don't want to spend money down the road, then 64bit Ultimate would be the way to go.
How much of a gamer are you? Will you want to upgrade to Windows 7? Either way you spend money now or later!
Money is not the issue I just wanted some insight on ther vatious versions and what they will offer.
I am going to go for 64bit vista ultimate I will have to buy a new scanner but i guess you always have to upgrade somrthing when you install a new OS.
Good choice. I should think you will be pleased. It has some nice features built in. Some in other versions and some just in Ultimate.
Good Luck
Thanks will get a copy next week will let you know how i get on. Will need to get a new dcanner too.
Does Vista only use the NTFS file system or does it use something else too?
Nope ntfs only i believe
Thanks for the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
So as well as stability goes will I see any perfomance increase over XP Pro?
Lot of people says it's performance is not as good as XP also it does depend on the hardware you are using too. what do you guys think?
Also how much does a typical install of Vista take up? what would say to be a sensible sized partion to install just the OS on?
Alot depends on how many programs you are going to install. If you want to install plenty of games then at least 50GB... but if it's just standard apps then 30-40gb will do fine.
Performance issues depend alot on the drivers and post SP1 some of the well known ones have been fixed. If you want to get technical read here
Performance is also affected by the video card. Make sure the video card you have is DX10 native and at least 256mb RAM to ensure best peformance.
What other performance areas do you have in mind?
My card is dx10 supported and has 512mb so that should be all good.
Other than gaming I'm just looking at overall operating perfomance, I have noticed wehen having a lot of programs open at the same time or having a lot of web pages open is slow on XP even with a good pc.
Also how are boot up and **** down times right now xp takes quite a while boothing up and does not shut down as quick as it used to.
I'm going the the 64bit version so having a 64bit processor and 4gb of ram should give me a perfomance increase in itself.
I wouldnt install Vista Ultimate on less then 100 gigs.
Vista is like XP the more you add the more it takes to startup and shutdown.
Clean installs start and shutdown fast.
If XP is taking over a minute to shutdown, I bet your profile is not unloading properly - check the event viewer and see what warnings etc you have.
So you think i should give it at least a 100gb? it does not really take that much space over time does I would have thought 50gb would be more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrit
It depends, if you move your folders to another drive (as I assumed you would) then 50GB is more than enough... if you don't and you dump everything in the documents folders, then no, it won't be enough!
What I'll do is install Vista on a 50gb partition and change the locations of the documents folders to my other partition where i will keep my other files.
Also is there anything like partition magic out there that is compatible with vista?
What do you want partition magic type for?
I wouldnt use partition magic on anything let alone on Vista. In Disk management you can shrink and expand your disks somewhat
i have been using it for years on XP never casued any problems what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrit
I wanted something like this so I could resize partitions later if I needed to.
So you get that automatically with Vista... bonus!
Thats Great!Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
So it looks like I'm set to go and install vista my copy should arrive this week.
A bit late OMG, he has made his decision and ordered the stuff.
Not only that saying:
Only advantage 64 bit OS it addresses more Ram that most users will never use.
All will go to 64 period. It's just a matter of time.
The same as 16 bit then 32 bit.
Thanks for the info but may I make some answers to the points you have made regarding Ulimate 64bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMGmissinglink
1. I have no component compatibility issues.
2. Well no software can protect against hardware but I can warn you before hand and suggest ways to resolve the isee. So it's better than having nothing at all.
3. As far I know 32 bit applictations work fine with 64bit OS and the other advantage you have is you can use the 64bit applications too. Which looks to be the way forward.
4. A 64bit OS will always handle memory better than a 32bit OS also a 32bit OS wont take more than 4GG of Ram. More more instense memory and games coming onto the market you will need more Ram.
Also as Ferrit has said it's only a matter of time before everything goes 64bit.