Official WD City of Heroes Thread

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

I'm OK with calling the order of attacks.

This just might make me get Unyelding Stance before Unstoppable at 32 then, to resist mezzes. :cool:


That way I keep my toggles up and stay nigh untouchable / indestructible.

How did you slot US on IROK, bro?

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so far hes got 5 resist damage on US. and i dont get knocked back, slept, and the whole stun/mez/hold shabang either. but teleport will be a must for me. and honestly, i use provoke more than i use my melee hits, they constantly need to be reminded of whos the target they really want so they dont wander off and nail the "real aggro kings" that do AoE attacks lol. i dont recall having harder blasters to defend than fire blasters, they are magnets for death https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

also Ajani has inertial reduction, when slotted right (although it is of short duration) it stops one from being held at all, so part of his job is to free us from stuns by slapping it on, but we have to tell him, in the chat box ;) we'll let him know that when he sees "zzz" he needs to slap on the IR, cause for most tankers, sleeping=premature death.

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

I see you reading GrandDad... join us. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif


You know you can't resist much longer. :flames:

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Right now I'm try'ing not to crock from the 'wrbby virus' :sad:
and find a cheap price for a good monitor to replace wife's die'ing one ,
one I looking at is "Hitachi Superscan 812 20" Monitor Model CM812U" used .

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

so far hes got 5 resist damage on US. and i dont get knocked back, slept, and the whole stun/mez/hold shabang either. but teleport will be a must for me. and honestly, i use provoke more than i use my melee hits, they constantly need to be reminded of whos the target they really want so they dont wander off and nail the "real aggro kings" that do AoE attacks lol. i dont recall having harder blasters to defend than fire blasters, they are magnets for death http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

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Invincibility has a small PBAoE taunt built into it, but I'm gonna have to ask Blackiron what his trick is, as it rarely holds the aggro if Stalemate moves while he doesn't appear to have any problem herding 30, 40 foes at once.

I would really dislike having to select this power and find myself once again stuck in the "aggro anchor" role it seems tankers have to fall back into to be useful in a group.

I'll calc out the debuffs Invincibility, Unstoppable, Tough Hide have together and then with taking Acrobatics again (to avoid being hit in the first place) before I seriously consider taking Unyielding Stance. As all my pools are selected, teleport is no longer an option for me.

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

also Ajani has inertial reduction, when slotted right (although it is of short duration) it stops one from being held at all, so part of his job is to free us from stuns by slapping it on, but we have to tell him, in the chat box ;) we'll let him know that when he sees "zzz" he needs to slap on the IR, cause for most tankers, sleeping=premature death.

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He'll be on TS this very evening, if he's on at all. :cool:

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

Invincibility has a small PBAoE taunt built into it, but I'm gonna have to ask Blackiron what his trick is, as it rarely holds the aggro if Stalemate moves while he doesn't appear to have any problem herding 30, 40 foes at once.

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i think you missed his little trick, he goes around an oblect of good enuf proportions, or around a wall where the enemies cannot see him, so they come to him, he gets them aggroed again with his Inv. and moves on to another crowd, then hides, etc.,etc. range will always stay ranged until you get cover, then they are forced to come to you, and get provoked at the same time by your Inv. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif but keep in mind the group needs to stay away https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

He'll be on TS this very evening, if he's on at all. :cool:

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told him his TS was ready, he was on today, as was Carbo https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif all these guys trying to get fast xp, i'm very proud of this SG https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Originally Posted by GrandDad

Right now I'm try'ing not to crock from the 'wrbby virus' :sad:
and find a cheap price for a good monitor to replace wife's die'ing one ,
one I looking at is "Hitachi Superscan 812 20" Monitor Model CM812U" used .

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I looked around for 2 websites I recall having bookmarked on that very subject... but I think the bookmarks are on my home PC.

I'll check later. ;)

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

i think you missed his little trick, he goes around an oblect of good enuf proportions, or around a wall where the enemies cannot see him, so they come to him, he gets them aggroed again with his Inv. and moves on to another crowd, then hides, etc.,etc. range will always stay ranged until you get cover, then they are forced to come to you, and get provoked at the same time by your Inv. http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/thumbs.gif but keep in mind the group needs to stay away http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Hmmmmm.

I've noticed that if I take even just a few steps, they lose interest completely. There is no time to play hide and seek at all.

As for staying away I'd rather they stick closer (stacking ToHit debuffs to max out defense), as ranged attacks still get through. :D

I'll start practicing the skulking around areas with a lot of obstacles, to see if that changes anything. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

Hmmmmm.

I've noticed that if I take even just a few steps, they lose interest completely. There is no time to play hide and seek at all.

As for staying away I'd rather they stick closer (stacking ToHit debuffs to max out defense), as ranged attacks still get through. :D

I'll start practicing the skulking around areas with a lot of obstacles, to see if that changes anything. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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how often do you use provoke?

i dont recall Black Iron attacking until they were all set up either, maybe that has some kind of effect also?

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

stale should be the only one aggroing, hes a tank, thats what his AT is famous for, and 2 peeps trying to aggro means 1 thing, 2 mobs...period. i've seen it over n over, the best aggro is from a single source. we need to stay put while stale aggros, i know its tough guys, but we should wait till he gives us the "ready" signal, and by that time he should have targetted the biggest threat to the group (or him) so we can use him as target.

as a blaster, i've started using disciplines since clockworks, but completely switched my defence insp for disc. at lv 29, when i started playing in bricks...it's a must, especially against these new batches of villains.

i'm ok with the additions to the team, new blood is good, and some SGs are up to 35+ members (and good ones at that too) so we need to muscle up and recruit. considering our lvs, it will be easy to powerlv lower toons, so lets not stay focused at the lv30 range...15+ sounds good (make that 16, extra power lol)

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OK, stale aggros and we all stay back.

As for the lvl 15's, maybe IMHO. I kind of like higher levels as they most likely have a little more maturity in the game having played long enough to get to lvl 30. I mean at this level we can assume the rudementary skills are there.

I also think we should begin to power level some of our lower level toons too so we can have a bevy of high levels to pick from to take on missions.

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

i dont recall Black Iron attacking until they were all set up either, maybe that has some kind of effect also?

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He didn't attack until they were herded into a corner. He just kept running from them and on occasion would run back to them to re-aggro.

post for myself for later reference:

FF:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...v=#Post1612021

Imps:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...part=1#1379096

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...part=1#1749718

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

how often do you use provoke?

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Whenever I see them not following, as soon as it reloads.

FYI, Blackiron doesn't use Provoke or Taunt when he herds. Or at least that's what he claimed last time he levelled a couple of us. ;)

I don't usually attack until they're pretty much all grouped around me.

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Originally Posted by ilovetheusers

He didn't attack until they were herded into a corner. He just kept running from them and on occasion would run back to them to re-aggro.

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Same here, but some don't follow at all still.

Maybe it's the way I move around, I'll check that out, or maybe tankers get no love when using the same (primary) powerset as scrappers (secondary). :p


I'll have to experiment some more.