D&D/AD&D...What's Your Alignment?

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Originally posted by Higg:
No, they aren't (even if I thought so too in the beginning 15 years ago...)!

You have two statements for the alignment
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(1) (2)
lawful good
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neutral -X- neutral
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chaotic evil
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statement (1) means how you interact with respect of law and order... if your word is something worth, or if you only act the way you want and not the way you should do...
So a lawful person is a guy with whom you can make a contract - but you should not betray him (he'll definitly dislike this and probably hunt you)!
statement (2) however means how how interact with respect to life itself... if you're killing people for fun you're definitly evil... if enemies surrender and you kill them though, you may definitly not be good (and other good characters will throw you out of the group or leave the group if they don't feel equivalent in power).

So you can easily be a thief, stealing all goods you can reach, though beeing a good one - you don't have to be Robin Hood for that, but you may not be lawful in the first alignment...

I hope that explains a lot... Higg

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Okay given the chart I guess that would make me Chaotic Evil with good tendancy's seen as I have certain thing's I do on a daily bases to help out Evil inc. Although I have never had a chance to kill an unarmed enemy I think I would, as far as stealing I have stolen some hearts in my time so I stick with my choice. J/K

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Originally posted by Elbatcho:
Okay given the chart I guess that would make me Chaotic Evil with good tendancy's seen as I have certain thing's I do on a daily bases to help out Evil inc.

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chaotic evils won't help anyone... If you do help (and you say there's a tendancy to good) that means more neutral (perhaps with tendancy to evil) ... and you can always only have a tendancy to a one-step-higher (or lower) alignment - so evil with tendancy to good is nuts.

Normally evils won't tell that they are evil and those who tell are mostly goods who are pissed of beeing good (but in fact are!)

Higg

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Originally posted by Higg:
chaotic evils won't help anyone... If you do help (and you say there's a tendancy to good) that means more neutral (perhaps with tendancy to evil) ... and you can always only have a tendancy to a one-step-higher (or lower) alignment - so evil with tendancy to good is nuts.

Normally evils won't tell that they are evil and those who tell are mostly goods who are pissed of beeing good (but in fact are!)

Higg

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Okay given this information I am GOOD, I am VERY GOOD. I WOULD never HURT a living SOUL. I guess this is why the US never addopted the AD&D Alignment scheme. It's too confusing, and although I did understand it when I was 14 that was nearly 14 years ago.

"Lawful" means a lot of things, but in this context it means a set of rules or a code by which you abide throughout your life. The laws of society, the beliefs of the church, the rules here at Windrivers, are all examples of "law". Someone who is a little less "lawful" but still "lawful" is someone who refuses to play by anyone else's rules, but still has a strict code of ethics of their own devising that they follow.

A chaotic person believes that any set of rules will be inherently too limiting to be useful. A chaotic good person is someone who believes that the laws of society are oppressive or misguided and breaks them in an attempt to accomplish true good. An example would be Robin Hood or Batman, both of whom break the law in their attempts to fight evil.

An evil person can still be lawful--an example might be Bill Gates, who works within the system and follows as many rules as he has to to get what he wants. A lawful evil person may manipulate and twist the rules an awful lot to get what they want, but in the end they will generally adhere to the letter of their agreements rather than the spirit, so if a lawful evil person signs a contract with you, they will hold up their end--although you may discover later that its a contract you should never have signed.

Does this clarify anything?

I have very specific needs from my alignment. I believe in the strict enforcement of laws, and I like being nice to people. So that would make me Lawful Good.

But I still would like to pee on old ladies in the supermarket once in a while.

Oh, and I also enjoy making comments about female buttocks.

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But I still would like to pee on old ladies in the supermarket once in a while.

Oh, and I also enjoy making comments about female buttocks.

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That's just human nature crackbeer :D

I'm definatly a Chaotic Good class.

World Peace through Nuclear War!! :eek:

Okay so if I attack a Nun that makes me evil, but if I attack her because I believe she is stealing twinkies from a supermarket that makes me lawful evil right.

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Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
An example would be Robin Hood or Batman, both of whom break the law in their attempts to fight evil.

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Nope! They didn't broke the law in any case, as the law was a farce, set up to misguide the lawful ones... so Robin and Batman were in fact LawfulGood as they brought back order and beleive to the unknowing! ;)

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Originally posted by Elbatcho:
Okay so if I attack a Nun that makes me evil, but if I attack her because I believe she is stealing twinkies from a supermarket that makes me lawful evil right.

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You got it Mac! ;) :D ;)

Higg, you are mistaken. Attacking a stealing nun would be chaotic good. Lawful evil would be telling the supermarket owner someone is stealing stuff, and hinting that if he offers a reward you can tell him who.

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Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
Higg, you are mistaken. Attacking a stealing nun would be chaotic good.

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So it's because of that EvilBlackCape-of-AnnoyingAnyone or is it just because of her MP peeking through a slit of the cape?

I used to play as a Lawful Neutral Gnome back in the day...most people consider that alignment boring as...muck...but I found all sorts of ways to exploit it!

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Originally posted by Higg:
So it's because of that EvilBlackCape-of-AnnoyingAnyone or is it just because of her MP peeking through a slit of the cape?

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Okay you lost me again. I would be lawful good for beating a stealing nun, but if I reported the nun to a supermarket manger for a reward I would be lawful evil. I am so confused. Okay if I beat the nun up, planted crack and stolen twinkies on her, kindnaped the mangers child and then asked for a reward for my deeds I would be chaotic evil correct? I didn't relize there were so many rules to being evil.

I think I'm Lawfull Evil. Seems to fit me, I guess. I help someone or break the law as long as it suits my needs or whim or I if think I can benefit from it. I never forget a person who helped me or one who wronged me, and I make good on my Word and threats.

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I'll let you decide...I was a wizard who loved to go into pubs cast invisiblity then start shooting fireballs at the Leanest person. Once they droped down(I tried to keep this queit so I'd see if there was a bathroom or anything) I'd serve them up for people to eat... LOL....its just a game...I had fun with it.