Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh

I have to agree fully with the last two posts. How is there more closure now that this guy was murdered? If they really wanted to make life miserable for the guy, there are a few things they could have done worse than letting him die painlessly. What would have happened to the guy if they let him out? It wouldn't be painless. Not that it would be anymore right than what they did to him. As was said above, my opinions might be different if my situation were different. Anyhow, Capital Punishment is quite a heated issue, I'm glad I live in Canada.

i say we should of chopped of his arms and legs, and let oprah sit on his face till he told us who else was involved

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The first thing that should have been done is to put him in a dark room with a dim light and refer to him as "we". Take away his Identity. Then Burn is tongue in one giant scar so he can no longer taste anything. Go ahead and make him watch the "sound of music" for two weeks straight. After that break every bone in his right leg to powder. Then let him have an interview on 60 minutes. After that remind him how "we" don't kill people, "we" don't kill children, "we" don't do anything unless told too. Then break "we's" left hand into powder. After about a year of watching "Faces of death" tell him stories of a Monster named Timothy McVeigh who made stuff like that happen. I say after about 5 years of that crap release him into prison and let the world know what happened. That way they can see what it is like to live like hell on earth. Let the world know what happens to creatures who pray on others! Let the world now who disgusting we are getting and how uncontrollable we are with our self's

Being an atheist and not believing in an afterlife, I think this guy was done a favor. Sitting in solitary for the rest of his life cut off from human contact would have been far more suitable. For someone like him who loved the attention of media and whatnot, a life in the hole with no contact aside from the guards would have been perfect.

Cobra, I understand where you are coming from. Remember though. He made the choice to kill all of those people in Oklahoma, not someone else. I understand now what he was so angry about – Rampant taxation, Nazi stormtrooper tactics from the ATF and FBI, Government lies to no end (remember how the Govt. told the press core that the Branch Davidians had the house wired with cordite and gasoline but it turned our to be the illegal, flammable tear gas that a tank sprayed into the house exploded and burned everyone alive – oops, sorry!). All of that combined with an apathy level of most of the American public (a huge chunk of the populace doesn’t even know who the president or the vice president are). It’s almost easy to see where a person becomes disillusioned with our current system and goes a little off his rocker. That coupled with no one ever being held accountable for the entire slaughter of those people in Waco, well… To him it seemed like the walls were crumbling and he reacted.

Another thing I have been wondering about is, why so much uproar over the taking of a childs life? Don’t get me wrong, but if there were no children there would that have made it right? Life is life, so what makes a child more precious than the 25 year old mailroom clerk or the old as dirt VP on the top floor? It bugs me to see how much people harp on the children (I love kids, don’t get me wrong) over the adults. It would seem that collectively we would somehow be less angry if only poor, old and dumb and preferably foreign people got hurt. If we blow up an aspirin factory in Sudan or bomb some people in a far off nation, well, we’re the good ol’ US of A and we should be able to bomb who we want. They shouldn’t mess with us (yeah that aspirin factory really was a real threat and poor Afghanis who Bin Laudin was no where near were a huge threat to us – good thing we hit them with cluster bombs). Shameful, shameful. To quote Chris Rock, “I wouldn’t do what he did, but I understand” <== That’s humor – no flaming allowed.

Still, if the guy really wanted to make a statement and actually cared about human life he could have spray painted a wall or raised some hell somewhere by organizing a political movement or started some political unrest to gain attention to his cause. At the very least he could have waited until nighttime for most if not all of the staff to be out of the building. The man obviously cared little to nothing for the taking of human life he reported to be so angry about.

No Thanks Aplus...I'll not support a mass murderer for the rest of his life at 35K+ a year with my tax dollars when the injections cost a helluva lot less and besides I'd rather my money go elsewhere, like food for the hungry or decent medical care or helping to fight the hundreds of illnesses that afflict law abiding citizens. And although, like Cobra, I sympathize with what he was going through, once you take up arms against innocents you have lost all sense of righteousness.
I'm not going to get into the whole religion thing cause that is just TOO confusing. eye for an eye/ judge not lest ye be judged...there are way to many contradictions. And while you can find support for NOT executing anyone I can find support FOR execution in the same bible nonetheless.
But my point is still...my point. Like it or not the man is a terrorist who chose a building full of gov employees. These people weren't out to rule the world, they just worked 9 to 5 same as everyone else. why didn't they choose a military installation?? Cause he and his cronies wouldn't have had a rats chance in hell of pulling it off.
Yea, helluva patriot...

I am all for the death penalty... I am also super liberal. I think the punishment SHOULD fit the crime... why keep somone young like McVeigh in prison for the rest of his life, which barring a prison "incident", could be decades? this cost you and me, the taxpayer, zillions of dollars. killing cost money too, nut not the same cost as decades in prison. I would also not be against getting the information out of the individual. read this however you want. He should not have been allowed to puss out without accomplice question being answered. "what if there was no one else?". yeah right. I think we just got suckered.

FYI- Although I disagree with what he did, the employees at the "target" were GOVERNMENT employees, and therefore the "enemy". It is correct that he would have had little chance of pulling this off at a military installation. It would not have been impossible, however. I used to cut through an army base on my way to work every day because it cut about 10 minutes off my ride. I drove a 1971 VW bus. I had long hair. I was usually high. Every time the gate guard would salute me... EVERY TIME! who was to say that I couldn't have had a zillion pound bomb? I don't think he considered the military his "enemy", since it was the FBI, ATF and federal gov't he had problems with.

He should have been shot in the kneecaps, then wrists, then a lung, and left to bleed to death.

Then charge the cost of the bullets to his family.

I dont believe he deserved any sympathy at all. *I didnt know there was a daycare centre* doesnt wash with me. He caused a f*&%ing big bomb to explode. Regardless of where, or how, he was guarenteed to blow a few people up.

And all the bleeding hearts can kiss my @ss.

He got the easy way out, and i don't think it was right, but i guess thats the goverment for you.... I think he should have had to suffer like all the Men & Women & The Children mostly did... they should have put him in a building and blew it up to a way it wouldn't kill him on target, he would had to lay there and suffer until he died...

I personally don't feel any sympathy for him because he knew damn well what he did, I feel sorry for the fact that his mind is so wacked up he isn't even sorry for what he did. He's going to pay, and burn in Hell...

I personally don't think he should be killed cruelly, first of all it would make the person who though of that just as bad,and his real suffering will be in hell, a suffering that can't be matched on earth..

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Originally posted by snoodle69:
<STRONG>I am all for the death penalty... I am also super liberal. I think the punishment SHOULD fit the crime... why keep somone young like McVeigh in prison for the rest of his life, which barring a prison "incident", could be decades? this cost you and me, the taxpayer, zillions of dollars. killing cost money too, nut not the same cost as decades in prison. I would also not be against getting the information out of the individual. read this however you want. He should not have been allowed to puss out without accomplice question being answered. "what if there was no one else?". yeah right. I think we just got suckered.

FYI- Although I disagree with what he did, the employees at the "target" were GOVERNMENT employees, and therefore the "enemy". It is correct that he would have had little chance of pulling this off at a military installation. It would not have been impossible, however. I used to cut through an army base on my way to work every day because it cut about 10 minutes off my ride. I drove a 1971 VW bus. I had long hair. I was usually high. Every time the gate guard would salute me... EVERY TIME! who was to say that I couldn't have had a zillion pound bomb? I don't think he considered the military his "enemy", since it was the FBI, ATF and federal gov't he had problems with.</STRONG>

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Yea I understand what you're saying. But let's face it a government employee ( and sometimes I think we ALL fall into that category at times. We seem to work for them instead of the other way around) could be just a janitor. Yea, that d@mn government janitor is out to ruin the Country. I know you're not implying that by any means, don't get me wrong. All I am saying is that, the killing and maiming of innocents should NEVER be used an an example EVER! If he felt strongly about social issues and the state of our country, he could have spent his life PEACEFULLY and PUBLICLY speaking out and promoting change. Instead he chose a cowards approach, the destruction of life and property. And the devastation didn't just include that one building, many buildings around were damaged, lot's of them had to be torn down. Restaurants, stores...lives and jobs lost.
To what end? If nothing else people will not take his causes or his kind seriously except to look at them as terrorists who care more about personal agendas and gripes against the government than the lives of citizens who wish only to live in peace, raise a family and watch that son/daughter who they just dropped off in daycare grow up and have kids of their own. Easy for him to drive up and blow up a device that killed and ruin many a life in a split second. Sure, easy...when the people you killed are nameless and faceless...all so you can make a statement.
What a waste...

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Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
<STRONG>Cobra, I understand where you are coming from. Remember though. He made the choice to kill all of those people in Oklahoma, not someone else.</STRONG>

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I just want to clarify that I don't in any way support on condone what he did. I've just re-examined the situation, and I can see WHY he did it - whether he was right or wrong is a different issue all together.

(ilovetheusers, I didn't take what you said as an attack or flame against me in any way. I just wanted to brace my stance before someone misconstrued what you said and used it against me...)

I understood what you were saying Cobra. You never said you approved of what he did. NOBODY who has posted has said that.
All you said was that you understood what his motivations were, hell I agree with that much.
If anyone who reads your post, or anyones post here...wether they are pro/con capital punishment and they gather from what they've read that anyone who has posted here is condoning what McVeigh did better re-read ALL the posts cause they have it all wrong.

He deserves to be tortured! If it was all adults it would have been somewhat different, but he killed innocent children and for that he should be punished

I heard last Friday that TM would be executed on Monday morning. Then this morning I read that he is dead. The first thing I thought was, "So?" I don't know him, and I don't know the families. However, I know that if it were anyone I knew or loved, who was in that building when he blew it up, then I would be devastated.

TM has no excuse for doing that dastardly deed. He can't blame the governments hypocrisy and he can't blame Gulf War Syndrome. These are not excuses for killing so many lives. If he had a problem, with the government, then there were many other alternatives that he could've used to make his point.

Some people "believe" in capital punishment, and some do not. I believe that there was no closure fullfilled by killing TM because all the lives he took are still gone and they will never come back. However, there is justification. The courts of the U.S. decided that this man would be punished by death, and the death that he suffered, was not cruel or unusual, therefore it was justified.

This was a disturbed individual who got what he wanted, and what he deserved. But regardless of the closure, justification, hatred toward him, capital punishment controversy, or whatever,... At least nobody will ever have to endure, from Tim McVeigh, another bombing that could kill so many people.

im just glad he's gone and i hope that the press doesn't keep talking about it.