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June 20th, 2002, 10:41 AM
Cleetus

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by disarm:
Kurts music had an intesity and urgency about it. Most of today's bands just fake it.<hr /></blockquote>My point is that is your opinion. To someone else he sounds like a herd of pyschotic beaver doing a rain dance, and Nickleback is intense.

By the way, Kurt did not invent the "Grunge" sound, it was sitting in Seattle for a long time. He just happened to get famous first, or maybe even sell out with a video first(hmmmmm :D )
June 20th, 2002, 10:41 AM
disarm

Guess which one makes you look like a fool.
June 20th, 2002, 10:43 AM
Budd

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by El Presidente Cleetus:
I am also very unclear on what opiate is trying to say. Is it a diatribe on the relativity to the sounds of distortion, or is it just sharing my view that music has never been the same ever since that fateful night we lost Richie Valens(sp?) and Buddy Holly in that flight from hell?

:confused: :D :confused: <hr /></blockquote>hey i'm still here. :)

i have to agree with opiate on this one, default and nickelback, along with alot of other so called "rock" bands suck. i just get really sick of the "TRL" bands. i don't know if its because i'm tired of their music, or maybe they're over exposed, or a combination of both. and i used to be a nickelback fan.
June 20th, 2002, 10:45 AM
Cleetus

<blockquote>quote:<hr />hey i'm still here. :)

<hr /></blockquote>Aghghhghgghhg run for the hills.
June 20th, 2002, 10:55 AM
disarm

Music is about creativity. Period. Give me a nickelback or default song that is truly creative and breaks bondaries and then we'll talk.
June 20th, 2002, 11:00 AM
Budd

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by El Presidente Cleetus:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />hey i'm still here. :)

<hr /></blockquote>Aghghhghgghhg run for the hills.<hr /></blockquote>damn that was harsh
June 20th, 2002, 11:04 AM
opiate

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Buddy Holly:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by El Presidente Cleetus:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />hey i'm still here. :)

<hr /></blockquote>Aghghhghgghhg run for the hills.<hr /></blockquote>damn that was harsh<hr /></blockquote>That's just the way he is. Who cares? :D
June 20th, 2002, 11:08 AM
Darkstar

Dave Matthews is out of ideas, addicted to drugs, and is just cashing-in at all the crappy corporation-owned ampitheatres before his 15 minutes are up.

Just my theory. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
June 20th, 2002, 11:10 AM
Budd

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Darkstar:
Dave Matthews is out of ideas, addicted to drugs, and is just cashing-in at all the crappy corporation-owned ampitheatres before his 15 minutes are up.

Just my theory. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>LOL, my thoughts exactly. he holds two shows at the Gorge Ampitheatre in George WA every August. sells out both shows to the same people every year. Dave Matthews fans are fanitics.
June 20th, 2002, 11:10 AM
Cleetus

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by disarm:
Music is about creativity. Period. Give me a nickelback or default song that is truly creative and breaks bondaries and then we'll talk.<hr /></blockquote>Ok, I still think leader of men is a good song.

But once again, we are talking of opinion. To me, music, like movies and other art forms, is all in the eye of the beholder. It is all what you make of it. Music to me should be something that recreates memories, evokes emotions, or is something that is pleasing for me to hear. Music does not have to be something that continually pushes the envelope, so to speak. Was Stevie Ray Vaughn horrible because he played the blues? Was Elvis that much less after only singing old standards?
I think a lot of these so called sell outs create good listening enjoyable music. If they didn't they wouldn't sell. Be creative and ground breaking all you want, if you don't sell and nobody appreciates it, you are still a starving artist, period. If you create what the masses want, you are successful monetarily, you have fun, you are generally enjoyed, to me you have made it.

And everybody watch out, we have the dead walking amongst us. J/K Buddy Holly :D
June 20th, 2002, 11:22 AM
Budd

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by El Presidente Cleetus:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by disarm:
Music is about creativity. Period. Give me a nickelback or default song that is truly creative and breaks bondaries and then we'll talk.<hr /></blockquote>Ok, I still think leader of men is a good song.
<hr /></blockquote>ok, i have to agree with that, leader of men is a good song. i also have to agree with the rest of your post. its just hard to accept that "pop" music has taken its place in rock music. i mean, this is my music. i can accept the whole backstreet, brittney, n'sync ect ect invasion because its pop music. everyone knows it sucks and we don't think of any of them as serious musicians. but when our rock groups start going "pop" is when i start worrying.
June 20th, 2002, 11:35 PM
cookin chef

People, People, People!!!!!

Relax, calm down and chill, especially Opiate!!!

I did not post this topic to start a big debate about what bands are good, crappy, manufactured, creative, who sold fans out, and so on.

As a matter of fact, I don't give a Rat's A$$ about any of that stuff.

I only posted this topic with a link to Default's new video, because I liked the video and the music involved and I thought about sharing it to other forum members and guests if they are interested.

If not, then ignore my topic and move along!!!

I respect everyone's opinions here, but I do want to be responsible for starting a flame war here like amd vs. intel or anything else like that.

OKAY!!!
June 21st, 2002, 03:57 AM
Tazdrummer

Well Cookin Chef, I like the video and their new song.

Each person has their own opinion on music, so be it. I have been trying to discover new music myself by other means. I dont put total stock into what the radio plays. BUT if you like a certain song and then it starts appearing on the local bubble gum pop radio station every hour, does it make that song bad? No, only if you hear it too much.

I started liking Linkin Park about the time of the song that has the line of "One step closer to the edge and Im about to break"....
Because I have heard their song Crawling on the bubble gum station doesnt make me hate Linkin Park.
June 22nd, 2002, 12:54 AM
cookin chef

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tazdrummer:
Each person has their own opinion on music, so be it. I have been trying to discover new music myself by other means. I dont put total stock into what the radio plays. BUT if you like a certain song and then it starts appearing on the local bubble gum pop radio station every hour, does it make that song bad? No, only if you hear it too much.

I started liking Linkin Park about the time of the song that has the line of "One step closer to the edge and Im about to break"....
Because I have heard their song Crawling on the bubble gum station doesnt make me hate Linkin Park.<hr /></blockquote>I agree!
June 22nd, 2002, 01:52 AM
FatalException0E

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Falanx:
...missing that feeling of anger in the vocals which would have made them better songs. Chad just doesn't have enough angry growl...

<hr /></blockquote>So.....what you're saying is that you don't like these guys because the singer can....sing? :p

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