Wow, there is no way I can really answer that last one without turning it into a flame. I have sat here and tried for a while. I will just sit here and say I completely and totally disagree.
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Wow, there is no way I can really answer that last one without turning it into a flame. I have sat here and tried for a while. I will just sit here and say I completely and totally disagree.
Yeah I'm not even sure I understand that post to be honest. The seconds paragraph throws me off. You wanna clear that one up a bit egypshn?
Well, the jist of the paragraph was that the Middle East is treated unfairly. When theirs controversy involving an Arab country, it turns into a worldwide event revolving around religion and terrorism.
Things that the U.S expects from Middle Eastern countries aren't even practiced here. When was the last time someone tried to overthrow Bush because of the actions of some anti-U.S. government cult (which we have all seen before). Why are their talks of overthrowing Arafat due to the actions of an outside group. Hamas (which is the group behind most of the Israeli bombings) isn't even a Palestinian organization, thay're a mixture of people from all over the Middle East. There are talks of attacking Saddam Hussein because he is violating Rules of NATO. Do you see the double standard.....talks of attacking Saddam Hussein for rules of NATO while at the same time Sharon is violating Geneva Convention rules....but we conveniently forgot about Sharon and the destruction he cause in Palestine. My point is that the U.S. and Israel need to stop looking for reasons to take control of the region and see their actions for what they are.
I read my last post and I apologize if it was a little confusing, I guess I was thinking a little faster than I was typing. Read it over, it may make more sense the second time around.
What "rules of nato" would you be speaking of. Iraq isn't a member of nato. I think you are talking about the cease fire agreements. Agreements that Iraq signed and agreed to allow. Geneva convention....I am not even sure if Israel signed the Geneva Convention. On that note, I can't recall the last time any mid-east country fought by those rules. Sometimes I think the U.S. are the only ones held to that standard.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">From Sandman: I am not even sure if Israel signed the Geneva Convention </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a paragraph from one of several websites I found on Israel's actions and how it violates the Geneva Convention.......
Otherwise, 134 countries voted yes for the strong resolution that Palestinian envoy El-Kidwa called "in a sense the strongest resolution that the U.N. has ever passed" on the issue. It confirmed that the Geneva conventions still apply to the Israeli-occupied territories including Jerusalem. It condemned the settlements, and expressed its concern about armed Israeli settlers' behavior. Importantly, it called for action, which if the U.S. follows its own vote in 1950 is binding. First, it called for the parties who signed the Geneva Convention, such as the U.S., to do their duty to ensure compliance with them. Controversially, it called for the "cessation of all forms of assistance and support for illegal Israeli activities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including Jerusalem, in particular settlement activities."
As far as NATO, the U.S. is on Saddam because he has not allowed them to inspect the country for weaponry.
I hope this clears up my previous post......
I get so tired of this never ending conflict where both sides have so much mistrust and hatred of each other.
From an extreme point of view, maybe to permanently settle this once and for all is to first warn and allow everyone to evacuate Israel for a cerain amount of Time.
Nuke it.
10,000 years of radiation will not allow anyone to settle back there.
This may cause WWIII, but at least the Jewish and Palistinean people will no longer war against each other for the Holy Land.
Plus the U.S. and other countries can finally stop playing politics in the middle east.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by egypshn:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">From Sandman: I am not even sure if Israel signed the Geneva Convention </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is a paragraph from one of several websites I found on Israel's actions and how it violates the Geneva Convention.......
Otherwise, 134 countries voted yes for the strong resolution that Palestinian envoy El-Kidwa called "in a sense the strongest resolution that the U.N. has ever passed" on the issue. It confirmed that the Geneva conventions still apply to the Israeli-occupied territories including Jerusalem. It condemned the settlements, and expressed its concern about armed Israeli settlers' behavior. Importantly, it called for action, which if the U.S. follows its own vote in 1950 is binding. First, it called for the parties who signed the Geneva Convention, such as the U.S., to do their duty to ensure compliance with them. Controversially, it called for the "cessation of all forms of assistance and support for illegal Israeli activities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including Jerusalem, in particular settlement activities."
As far as NATO, the U.S. is on Saddam because he has not allowed them to inspect the country for weaponry.
I hope this clears up my previous post......</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you mean the UN. NATO is an organization that is an alliance of Western European nations against soviet aggression.
Now don’t take this as a flame but some of your information and thus your sources seem fairly specious and I’m wondering where they come from.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> From: ilovetheusers:
I think you mean the UN. NATO is an organization that is an alliance of Western European nations against soviet aggression.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">ilovetheusers, I do apologize for the mix-up. I did confuse NATO with UN. Whatever the acronym is....the fact remains that their is a double standard. As far as the Geneva Conventios is concerned it doesn't matter whether ot not Israel signed. The U.S. signed and they are supporting a nation which is violating every rule.
So?!?!?
We are America, we are the richest, strongest, best, and prettiest nation(next to sweden on the pretty part, those chicks are hot) on Earth. We provide the UN with the majority of its money, we house the UN. Quite frankly I think we should be able to do what we want concerning the UN or anybody else.
Sometimes it helps to just be blunt and honest and let people know where you really stand.
Then again these are only my views, not those of anyone else affiliated with this forum. All those opposing my views are commie pinkos and will be getting a summons from my boy McCarthy very shortly. Thank you again, and kindly step out of our way before you are stepped on. This has been a Egocleetus Production.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">From: Illiterate Cleetus :
We are America, we are the richest, strongest, best, and prettiest nation(next to sweden on the pretty part, those chicks are hot) on Earth. We provide the UN with the majority of its money, we house the UN. Quite frankly I think we should be able to do what we want concerning the UN or anybody else.
Sometimes it helps to just be blunt and honest and let people know where you really stand.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since we are being blunt......
#1. We are the richest....T
Their are several other countries who have much more money than the U.S. without a single soul living in the streets. Don't forget that money is always mesured on a "per-capita" basis and the U.S. is far from the richest.
#2. We are the best country....
This country offers great opportunities and is a beautiful place to live however I have been to many countries (outside of the middle ease) and have seen much better.
#3. We are the strongest country..
Well a bunch of cavedwellers just knocked down two of the most respected buildings in the U.S.
#4. We are the prettiest country...
Buy a copy of any modeling magazine with exotic scenery and underneath every picture it usually states the location of the shot. you'll see that about 10% of them are taken in the U.S. You don't get out much.
Sometimes it helps to just be blunt and honest and let people know where you really stand.
THIS IS ALSO A JOKE
Hey if you look at my entire post, you will realize it is all in jest. You commie pinko, tree hugging, euro-loving, utopian from mars :D :D <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :D :D
THIS IS ALSO A JOKE
Note from the editor: It has become too unpopular and too dangerous to support the US on this website so I can only sit here and make jokes about the subjects.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Illiterate Cleetus:
<strong>We provide the UN with the majority of its money, we house the UN.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whoa. Slow down. If the US actually paid their dues to the UN, then yes, they'd be the biggest providors. As it stands now, Canada contributes more for god's sakes. The US has accumulated over a 2 billion dollar debt to the UN in the past.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">From: Illiterate Cleetus :
Hey if you look at my entire post, you will realize it is all in jest. You commie pinko, tree hugging, euro-loving, utopian from mars </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well you're definitely Illiterate........
I didn't anticipate you having much else to say anyways.
Thanks Kingtbone............
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by egypshn:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">From: Illiterate Cleetus :
Hey if you look at my entire post, you will realize it is all in jest. You commie pinko, tree hugging, euro-loving, utopian from mars </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well you're definitely Illiterate........
I didn't anticipate you having much else to say anyways.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chill out man, I didn't make any real remarks towards you or your views, I just made little pathetic jokes. I didn't mention how you kept bringing up jews in your first posts. To me it showed your bias right through. It is because of those views why I truly believe that America should stand by Isreal and why the whole situation is obscene. If you remember this time last year, America and several other countries sat out of the UN meeting in South Africa. That meeting was to blast Isreal and in promotion of the Palestenian cause. Then somehow a couple of months later, the battle was brought to America. I don't think there are many Afganees that seriously doubt that when you piss us off that we will put some hurt to you.
Personally I think the whole problem is due to pride on all parties. Many of the former Ottoman territories and also the Muslim nations are hurt in their personal pride becasue they realize they are nothing. Without oil, the would be nowhere. Here comes Isreal, with money and the full backing of the Western world right in their yard. And everytime they have tried to do something, they have gotten their rear's handed to them. A hurt pride couple with religious fervor is a scarry, scarry thing. It is something that will take a long time to heal.