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(snicker) :p (giggle)Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
...take a mop handle up the poop shoot!?! Man, how come I never get that lucky!!!...
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Out of context Quote of the day:
(snicker) :p (giggle)Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
...take a mop handle up the poop shoot!?! Man, how come I never get that lucky!!!...
You have violated the context of my statement, prepare to be hazed..............http://www.3swforums.com/ubb/graemlins/bootyshake.gifQuote:
Originally posted by a d e p t
Out of context Quote of the day:
(snicker) :p (giggle)
not to be a stick in the mud. . . . but we're talking about a 15 year old kid who was basically violently raped with a foreign object. this kid will probably never be the same again, and this is something to make light of?
I saw something similar on "real sports" and saw a mother and father in tears because their son was at football camp and was sexually assaulted with a bannana. the kid who was a straight A student before the incident had now become a social outcast who had to endure people throwing bannana peels on the football field and look at signs that depicted bannanas. He was failing classes stealing and wrecking his dad's car, skipping school etc. I almost cried when his parents said (paraphrasing) "We spent 15 years raising a respectable young man, then we send him away for 3 days at an adult supervised camp and this is what we got back. all the years of hard work were erased in three days"
as a new Dad, I don't think these types of incidents of anything to joke about and woudn't want my son to have to go through anything like that no matter how much money could be won in a law suit.
okay - flame away.
Did they call him monkey boy, then did he start running around school on all fours flinging poo and screaming at people???? :flame:
I agree, $ or not...its not worth what happened to him emotionally....as I said before..its messed up. To joke around and have fun is one thing, but to violently hurt someone, its messed up.
Anyone that did that to my son...well..they may or may NOT live to regret it...but at some point..they would feel their own level of pain....
You make a valid point. I was speaking purely in jest. I don’t think something like that would scar me for life, but then I have been through enough in my life to learn how to cope with just about anything life throws at me. 5 years in the Corps will teach you to blow off some of the harshest things out there, and sometimes my callous approach to a situation is a little too rough for some. Sorry if I offended you or anyone out there at the expense of someone that probably can’t manage dealing with the ridicule, and publicity of such an incident, not to mention the mental and physical damage incurred from the incident. My heart does go out to him, and I would probably kill anyone responsible for this if it happened to my kids. No need for a courtroom, Judge—Jury—Executioner!!!Quote:
Originally posted by kato2274
as a new Dad, I don't think these types of incidents of anything to joke about and woudn't want my son to have to go through anything like that no matter how much money could be won in a law suit.
okay - flame away.
So would hog tieing someone, after you tackled them in front of a date, and stripped them. Then taken them way out in the woods all while yelling at them and shoving chicken feet in their mouth and nose. Then let them out surround them while pouring all sorts of foul things on them and other unmentionables. Then take them back to the dorm beconsidered hazing? What if you are an underclassman and they were an upperclassmen?
not that anything close to that ever happened officially:D :D :D
I think all of that hazing is bull$hit. In College there is no real need for that kind of acceptance just to be part of a "fraternity". The hazing I saw in the Marines was usually limited to the pinning on of stripes for rank, and the jump wings. I have seen some injuries from pinnings, but the way most of us saw it was that we were warriors, and a little pain goes a long way when you compare it to combat. But college, high school, it is all ridiculous.
But that is not to say it isn’t sometimes worth it at the time, looking back on it Cleetus, was it all worth it? I mean, squealing like a pig and all…
Mine was from the corp at a&m, we had a lot of stuff that could be considered hazing, luckily for the most part we still had some protection from being practically a military school(for those that were in the corps). Where I was never military, I did have the benefit of the largest public school with a military acadamy within its ranks. Most all my buddies from my outfit went on to become officers, like I mentioned previously my back kept me out.
Most hazing these days is gone or is extremely harmless, the problem is that people grow up hearing these stories, want to make 'em bigger, get drunk, lose all human reason then things get really nasty and out of control.
Small limited initiation "hazing" is just a part of growing up, but yes, when taken to the point that things are getting shoved up butts or people are seriously getting injured then it has turned for the worse and something needs to be done. We can't over protect our children or they will lash out, but we must do everything we can.
In my above case, if something did happen, well he knew all along as it was his job for some time to get all guidon candidates into trouble. I can't tell you how many thousands of pushups and situps we did because of him in a short period of time. We all went out and had a beer and laughed about it later, he knew exactly what he was getting into and trusted us not to hurt him. THese girls in this case had that trust violated as the incident involved 5 going to the hospital.
Ya_know, this totally clears up so much for me!!! Now I know why my wife calls me an insensitive @$$hole anytime I don't have the same reaction she does to a situation.Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
You make a valid point. I was speaking purely in jest. I don’t think something like that would scar me for life, but then I have been through enough in my life to learn how to cope with just about anything life throws at me. 5 years in the Corps will teach you to blow off some of the harshest things out there, and sometimes my callous approach to a situation is a little too rough for some.
no offense taken now or then. . . . I knew you and everyone else was joking. it just seemed a little inappropriate, that's all. I have a lot of respect for you ya_know. you may be a little rough around the edges (I know that puts some people off) but I can tell you're an honest stand up guy, much respect my friend.Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
Sorry if I offended you or anyone out there . . . .
There are three things that end a marriage in the Marine Corps.Quote:
Originally posted by Archangel42069
Ya_know, this totally clears up so much for me!!! Now I know why my wife calls me an insensitive @$$hole anytime I don't have the same reaction she does to a situation.
#1, taking work home with you. I don't mean doing paper work, or answering emails, I mean when someone chews your @ss, or you chew someone else’s, and you come home in a foul mood. You gotta put it behind you for the next day.
#2, not being sensitive enough. I can’t count the times…she can’t stand me sometimes, and I can’t understand that. But I know that I don’t think like a normal person would in many situations. She gets so disgusted with me sometimes, and I try to make her understand that it is just a learned lifestyle, and that I will try to do better. I think that I have. Compared to the way I was when I was in, I have made quite the transition! But…for her it still isn’t enough.
It is difficult to maintain a warrior mentality, dealing with the extreme disciplines of the Corps, then to come home and act like a normal daddy and loving husband, you have to learn how to turn off some switches. It makes it hard physiologically to manage two lifestyles, but you have to without turning off the wrong switches. That brings us to:
#3, being so withdrawn from your home live, that you drive her away. You can’t drive such a wedge between your two lifestyles that it turns you into a different person. You have to remain the same, deal with everything from both camps. Stay focused/interested in what she is involved in, as well as keeping up with the responsibilities of the job.
I was never married in the Marines, but I saw enough from my fellow Marines to learn that it wasn’t at all easy. I wish you all the best!
You two have got to be the only two marines I know who have the ability to have entire conversations with out dropping the f-bomb every other word, or is it because the forum doesn't allow it? Either way, it impresses me.
You're right. I used to cuss real bad,; everyone I worked with cussed bad. Even the WM's (Woman Marines) would shock the best of us. I guess it was part of the job...;)Quote:
Originally posted by Cleetus
You two have got to be the only two marines I know who have the ability to have entire conversations with out dropping the f-bomb every other word, or is it because the forum doesn't allow it? Either way, it impresses me.
Who wants to go first????? :DQuote:
Originally posted by PeLiGrOsO
crazy b!tches.. they deserve to be spanked.