pocket knife - yay or nay?

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Originally posted by Outcoded
Main ones are:

Leatherman supertool in my pocket.
Lock-knife on right ankle.
Large knife in the car.

If I'm going somewhere I shouldn't carry a knife, I have a nylon blade which is easily concealed.

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.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !

Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...

I carry a 4" Tanto by Cold Steel. I love that knife. It's not leagal (barely) but as a friend used to say, "Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6." Work however frowned on this knife. So while in the building at work I have a cybertool 27 or something like that. Its by Victronix. It was probably one of the best gifts I ever got. It has all the bits I need to work on pcs and assorted other tools. The only thing this one is missing is pliers.

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Originally posted by confus-ed
.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !

Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...

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Actually, Confus-ed, the "constitutional right" you refer to is not a right established by the Constitution, but is a right that precedes the Constitution and recognized as such by the Constitution. In other words, the government is acknowledging that the right existed before them, and they are not trying to change it or inhibit it. Everything after that is just an attempt to subvert the original intent. The "right" is not the right to be an A-hole, but is the right to meet life threatening aggression with deadly response. Some people just don't get it.

In the Wind, just exactly how far east of Seattle are you?

I am no constitutional law scholar but the right to bear arms IS a part of the Constitution of the Unites States. Its called the second ammendment. "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I am not going to get into the guin control debate here. I am just stating that it is part of the Constitution. As for being allowed before the Constitution, I am not sure about British Law.

Ok then ... so I have a grenade in my pocket ? You still think I should be allowed that for 'protection' ?... a machine gun? maybe some anthrax ? Nerve agent? ... mini A-bomb ? ...

'the right to meet life threatening aggression with deadly response' ... isn't carring a gun in the first place life threatening aggression ??

So whether the consitution confirmed your supposed right or granted it you seem to perpetuating what you want to get rid of ....

P.S. Actually ... starting anything with actually will only actually annoy ! :eek2:

I had a nice little Gerber keychain knife that broke when I was trying to break in to my girlfriend's work (long story). It then functioned as a flathead screwdriver until I got a cheapie replacement for xmas.

I went to a concert last month and the security lady felt it in my pocket and made me show it. She handed it back to me and said, "Don't stab anybody."

I feel naked without mine too.

I live in Tucson, Arizona. Carrying a knife here is actually somewhat mundane. you don't see it often but it is not entirely uncommon to see people walking around with a sidearm holstered at their hip. And concealed carry permits aren't all that difficult to obtain.

The level of personal freedoms we enjoy here sometimes exacts a high price in blood and suffering. Balancing the very understandable desire to reduce the violence our freedoms make possible against the very esoteric value of greater personal freedom is not easy.

I have a small collection of firearms but I almost never carry one unless I'm going out for some recreational shooting. Still its nice to know I could carry one if I wanted to. I'm a firm believer in protecting our constitutional freedoms. Its not easy defending that belief to someone who has lost a loved one to some gun toting nut however.

In British law one is not allowed to carry anything that can be construed as a weapon unless authorised by the relevant Government department.
A member of the public can be arrested,detained and charged for having in their possession [or in their vehicle] anything that an officer of the law considers to be an offencive weapon which may also include an article made of wood i.e. a pool cue.
They may also only use the force necessary to restrain an offender unlike US law they cannot use extreme force unless in a life threatening situation.
Any knife with a blade over 4" is counted as illegal to carry and still may be counted as an offencive weapon in certain circumstances.

The charging and subsequent jailing of a farmer last year for shooting two trespassers shows the level of the UK law in the regard to protecting ones property.

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Originally posted by confus-ed
.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !

Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...

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I'm in the UK as well.

Leatherman and a Ruko folder.

Pretty much all the time.

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Originally posted by Buddy Holly
In the Wind, just exactly how far east of Seattle are you?

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At the confluence of the eastern Wa rivers and the River of No Return. I know it is called the "Snake", but the Snake is just a dribble till it joins up with the Salmon, a river I really love.

I believe that the 2nd Amndt states that your right (preexisting) to bear arms shall not be infringed (by the government), it isn't giving you the right, just stating that the right will not be infringed upon.

Differences of opinion are what makes a horse race, eh?

Confus-ed, the right to bear arms does not convey the right to be an idiot with them. I don't like to "lower the bar" to match or accomodate the most ridiculous behaviour possible in a given situation. If one were to carry a weapon and the act of carrying the weapon caused that person to be an idiot with it, they should come to understand that being an idiot is a problem, the problem they must fix. It is called resposibility for your actions, something that seems to be lacking in society today.

Often carry A Sthill Saw in the back of the car.
Excellent for removing wheel clamps.:)

I wonder if that would be considered an offensive weapon.

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Originally posted by constructor
Often carry A Sthill Saw in the back of the car.
Excellent for removing wheel clamps.:)

I wonder if that would be considered an offensive weapon.

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If used "properly"... :eek2:

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