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As a test, I did the poll using the most liberal of answers and got Kucinich at the top with 78% then the rest of the dems, then Bush. Then i reversed it, and used the Conservative answers, and got Bush with 84% then a couple of dems. (I didn't check the party affiliation box) seems appropriate to me
Not funny to me. Sounds skewed to me. I was going to do that but thought someone had already, and you did. Of course, it is a poll from AOL/Time Warner....so grain of salt necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
You guys obviously aren't old enough to remember Viet Nam. I am.
I remember people signing up for the Coast Guard left and right to get out of Viet Nam service. The argument that Dub'ya didn't flee to Canada is Bullsh*t. His daddy was a US senator at the time - it would have been too embarassing for him to flee and besides, George had a political future.
It was also his daddy that fixed him up with a job in the air wing of the Texas National Guard.
Asked what Texas needed with and Air Force in the National Guard, Dub'ya once answered
" to protect Texas from an attack from either Oklahoma or Mexico" This was on PBS's Frontline...
Rich kids who's daddys were US Senators avoided Vietnam by going into the Coast Guard, smart kids got college deferments. Poor kids got sent to VietNam.
At least Clinton got his deferrment on his own with his brains, and not because his daddy was a Senator....:D
Its okay, I don't expect you to agree with me, just because I'm right....:grin:
Nah, I just respect the hell out of the people in the Coast Guard.
Bush's Military CareerQuote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
That site seems fairly even handed. My personal opinion: Bush likely used his father's influence to secure a pilots slot, but he could have also volunteered for many other positions throughout the military that would have been noncombat. I wouldn't exactly call flying a jet fighter the safest position either.
Maybe not, but it would look good on his political resume, and fly-boys got treated better than the grunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
- besides, Daddy was a pilot too:D
And following in your father's footsteps is bad because... ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
Well, there was a time.............Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
"In 1931, the boundary dispute between Texas and Oklahoma got so intense that the Texas Rangers and the Oklahoma National Guard were called to the Red River. Gov. Bush and Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating finally settled the issue this year when they agreed to setting the border at the vegetation line on the south bank, ceding the river to Oklahoma."
Daddy served with honors.Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Why don't you ask that question to someone who got their arm or leg shot off because they weren't able to get into the National Guard..... :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Ok tough guy...what was your duty during the Viet Nam war? Do give us the details... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
HeeHee. Minor oversight. I guess I should read up on the subject, makes me a better debater...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Really!!!https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Okay tough guy,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
So why are you defending your draft-dodging Master? :D. If you were really a Marine you'd be on my side, rather than on those who defend joined the Coast Guard to avoid Viet Nam service. Frankly I doubt you were in the Marines or have any military experience at all other than what you watch on the Army Ermy show.
- And, you can't answer my arguments intelligently, so you resort to personal insults.
BTW, my service during Viet Nam is none of your g*d-d@mned business.... :devil:
What was yours??????
WOW punkinhead, that was a personal attack if I ever heard one. Why??? A question was posed and went unanswered. Again: why? You are just as old as I am. And, I find it really hard to understand what you would kmow about VietNam...since I hardly know. I am older than you, and I JOINED the Air Force in 1975. Right at the end of the war!!! And, while I was in the service, I met all kinds of people who WERE drafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeman
So, during the years that VietNam was at it's height, you were what?: 10-15 years old???? Come on now. What do you know about VietNam??? And I have a degree in History. And, even though I am considered a "VietNam ERA Veteran", I was NOT in Nam!!!
YOU OWE Ya_know an apology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS
Yeah, I know it's hard, but I once owed -ed an apology, and I delivered.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif