Err.. no offense to anyone... but there is no such thing, as there is no perfect man either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
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Err.. no offense to anyone... but there is no such thing, as there is no perfect man either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
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In realation to me, buttplug :rolleyes:
100% agreement on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kato2274
The "dating game" is a relatively new concept, as far as human society goes. It's been around for about 150 years (erring on the side of generosity here), while arranged marriages were the norm before that throughout much of human history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archer
Although I don't think it's applicable anymore, compare the track record of arranged marriages with that of our modern society, and you're on your way to a fascinating study into human nature.
But you will also have to factor in the women's rights into that equation, which just totally messes everything up. And that is why I say marriage is evolving, it is no longer about property, merging of families, insuring that the woman is a virgin, and so forth, as well as their is no longer a single care taker and a single bread winner. We aren't going to exactly have our parents and our parents parents marriages, it is going to get even more difficult, but, as I can only hope, but just as or more rewarding.Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Well, He did setup the first blind date... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Wayward Clam
But let's not get into that train of thought - too much potential of thread hijacking.
I appreciated the stats you posted, as they made me realise even more how lucky - how blessed - I am. I've been married 10 years now, been living with my wife for 11 years (yes, that means...) and I can't wait to see her in the evening when I get home. I already knew the situation was bleak, so I'm not surprised at all. After all, I live in Quebec, where married couples are a social oddity.
What got my attention also was the lack of stats for civil unions/live-in couples. I can attest to the fact that every single civil union I've been in contact with has ended in seperation, so that got me searching for more info.
Here are some findings from the US:
40 percent of couples who live together break up before they marry and of the 60 percent that do marry, 40 percent of them divorce after 10 years.
Two thirds of civil unions will end in separation.
Once having undergone a seperation or a divorce, the chance of failure to establish a long-term relationship increases dramatically.
So living together isn't any better, it would appear...
My parents have been married for 34 years.
That requires some tremendous amount of commitment and effort. But as time goes by I've seen the benefits and even started experiencing them myself (security in knowing someone knows all of you - and still loves you despite that, better sexual satisfaction than singles, becoming a person who cares for others first - growing out of egocentrism, etc.).
When I entered into marriage, I did so with the knowledge that this was not where I was going to find happiness, but could try to provide it for my wife. Marriage was not going to be a blissful, uneventful cruise but rather an adventure filled with obstacles and victories. Lastly, it was going to be exclusive and for life, inasmuch as it depended on me.
I think deep down inside, people are disappointed with marriage because it failed to meet their expectations of happiness, while they tended to forget that sometimes you must give (and give some more) before you receive. The fact that people still seek a somewhat permanent relationship tends to support the concept that marriage is still very important to them.
And here is something to take into consideration re: those undergoing troubled times in marriage:
TOP 12 MARRIAGE KILLERS
1. Overcommitment and physical exhaustion
2. Excessive credit and conflict over how money will be spent
3. Selfishness
4. Interference from in-laws
5. Unrealistic expectations
6. Invading the other's personal space
7. Alcohol or substance abuse
8. Pornography, gambling and other addictions
9. Sexual frustration, loneliness, low self-esteem, and the greener grass of infidelity
10. Business failure
11. Business success
12. Getting married too young
Surprising how infidelity isn't higher up in that list.
I am a stat of how living together doesn't work, we are an anti-stat in how close of friends we still are, but she wouldn't marry me and things got all messed up :sad:
Life goes on, and we grow with each day :thumbs:
I think you're quite right in pointing that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
The stress being brought on a couple by having both members working (sometimes different shifts), the "supposed" liberation of women, even just the pace of living are all things our parents never had to face.
We do have to work harder at keeping a marriage together today, as compared to previous generations. We can't even say that we can rely on society's vocal or moral support to back up our marriages anymore.
Yeah, that sucks. I recall that you'd made some sacrifices which turned out to be fruitless investments. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
I guess there is a grain of truth in the statement "If it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger."
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Hey Adept, you forgot to add that " sometimes you just have to love them in spite of themselves". Been with my wife for 19 years and married for 18, sometimes a rocky road, but I wouldn't change a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Ok...so you are saying that you want to marry someone that is related to you, or your buttplug? Please clarify that for me... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
um, someone not related to me, buttplugs optional :butt:
So Ya_Know fits both those then eh?? :devil:
I thought I read earlier on here that maybe there was gonna be a marriage of the two of you?? Sounds like he fits the bill....whens the date??? :p :D
Sounds like a Fox reality show. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Coaster Creator
Nooo..not a reality show.. :eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t