PREACH ON JAEGER! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
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PREACH ON JAEGER! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
I am sure if this was your son that was the stupid tard, you'd feel a world different...I am not impressed, even if you were joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
Question, why was the chemical store left unsupervised and unlocked?
You wouldn't find a commercial lab in the UK left like that, let alone in a school!
Well, during the lab I am sure they had some chemicals at their stations...you would think...?Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
We don't know yet what it was that he drank. That is the part I am waiting for...!
If that was my kid, I would smack the $hit outta him for being so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
But you would not want him naturally selected out of existence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spork
I'd either raise my child to realize, "Hey guzzling some random chemical may not be such a hot idea," or I'd be a miserable failure as a parent. Hell, now that you bring it up, the parents should be at least partially responsible for this numbnuts hospital bills. We aren't talking about a third or fourth grader who makes an ignorant mistake here. We are talking about some wanna-be vegetable that decided to chug something that was sitting in a chem lab. At bare minimum this kid was fourteen and should have known better. Of course, we now have a sample of his astounding judgement. I only hopes that when he does manage to kill himself doing something stupid, he doesn't take other people with him. I don't expect a highschool freshman (taking the youngest possibility, he may be older) to be ready to make good decisions when faced life's deepest problems, but he should have figured out DRINKING STRANGE CHEMICALS IS BAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
jaeger, have you got any kids now?
Its a shame El Estupido was asked to do something this distructive. Think about what would have happened if he'd been dared to do something funny, like poor slow-acting acid on a nice girl's shirt.....:D
Or go to study-hall with his pants pulled down...:D
or ask the question "Do you know any handicapped or special people?" to any one he met....:grin;
No. Why the insistence on the "If it was your kid, you'd feel differently." line? I know that. You are saying if I was directly involved, I'd lack objectivity. This teenager is old enough to make choices, and he has demonstrated that he is remarkably bad at making them. What scares me, and try concentrating on this, is one of his future bad choices, now that he has been spared from death, might result in the deaths of people whose only mistake was to be far too close to this bonehead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You keep dancing around the point you made earlier, and come close to repeating it every time. So you think that a kid this stupid is a direct fault of the parents, and that stupid kids don't need to go on breathing, especially if the event that kills them doesn't harm anyone else...am I right in that paraphrase?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
My boy is 2 years old, and doesn’t listen to me, even thought I am on his a$$ the minute he wakes up, until he goes to bed. I am relentless, but he wants to be more independent than any little 2 year old I have ever seen, but then I really didn’t pay any attention to those things before my kids. I give him his latitude, and let him hang himself, but I am always there to be sure things don’t go wrong…hoping that these events are helpful in his development, and that he learns from experience, along with listening to me telling him right from wrong. I hope and pray that as he gets older he learns to trust my instinct about things, and not wish to explore his own instinct. But fact is at some point he will be on his own…at 8, at 10, at 14 in high school he will be faced with decisions that matter more then he will ever truly realize or understand…I remember the decisions I made, and many I regret. But to become a man you have to try and learn, hopefully things don’t go wrong…
What I am getting at, you’re not seeing the whole picture. This kid made a mistake, and I am sure he is paying for it. I am also sure that someone out there loves this kid, and was in great pain to hear of the news of his injury, the same as your own mother was when you had events in your life…think back.
Be fair, he did something stupid, yes, that doesn’t mean that he is stupid, or that his parents failed him at some point. There is such a thing as karma…things are always going to just happen.
The parents played a role in raising the kid. They aren't fully responsible, they are partly responsible as they raised a child with extraordinarily poor judgement. In the early context of this thread, where it was suggested that there would be a lawsuit that the family would win, and I made my comments with that in mind. Between having this kid win a fat lawsuit ascribing responsibility to the school and having him die on his own, I think the ending is his death. Why would I say such a cold-hearted thing? Because without a serious acceptance of responsibility, this kid WILL do something similar in the future. I can't know whether his encore will kill himself or other innocent people, maybe both. Now provided this kid learns from his mistake (that would be evidenced by no lawsuit), medical care was the right choice as this may be the event that matures him, makes him a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
The primary difference here seems to be one of age perspective. I'm 20, and I imagine your are late 20s to early 30s. To you he is a poor young kid, to me he should know better. Six years ago I was either his age or younger and even then I had enough judgement not to drink strange chemicals, peer pressure or no.
Karma is an odd choice of word. Karma implies fate. Fate is what happens to you, not what you do to yourself. This wasn't some unlucky turn of events, this was stupidity in motion.
Yeah, but he drank chemicals!!! How much dumber can you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
I think that what Jaegers upset about is what upsets most of us. This dink is going to sue now, you know he will. It's not in the article but it's bound to happen and we blame the school or the teacher and in this case anyone with a damn brain should know better than to drink freakin' chemical in a chem lab for crap sake! It's people like this that ruin everything for everyone. They are the reason we have "Caution - Hot" on coffee and "Do not eat" on palastic wrap. People like this do not deserve attention or reward but they continue to get it. We reward stupidity constantly and it's got to stop.
Now, there may be more to this than there seems to be. Maybe the chemicals were not locked up and should have been. Maybe the teacher left the room during this dangerous time. Maybe, maybe, maybe. The fact remains that this idiot drank RAW FREAKIN CHEMICALS ON A DARE! He didn't spill them accidentaly due to neglagence, he drank them. This kid is a bonafide damned idiot.
Well, no, there isn't, but I agree with the essence of your post wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
If anyone has read my DorT post about my teenage years they will see quite clearly that I voluntarily defied the structure they wished to instill in my life.
That young man made a decision based on ego, on bravado, on peer pressure and paid the price for it.
His parents can't be held responsible for this at all.
I'm betting Dihydrogen Monoxide. It's out there, and it's dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know