Your missing the point... It's the fact that a gun is given at all that I find funny... Why a gun ???Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
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Your missing the point... It's the fact that a gun is given at all that I find funny... Why a gun ???Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
Like the Bible :thumbs2:Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Moore is a grade A lying jackass that is here for entertainment but should not be taken serriously, ever. As entertainment, it was good. Since people take it as fact, it's bad.
Great big ball O' bull****.
I loved how he showed that Canada, a country with just as many guns had almost no gun crime then somehow drew the conclusion that the USA needed gun control.
That one blew me away. Also, he chopped up many a speech and statement from heston and made one thing sound like something else.
He drew conclusions that all white people were to blame for all the gun crime in america because we don't like people with other color skin, and blah, blah, blah. I for one am sick of people telling me that because I'm a white male that I hate all these other groups of people. It's bull**** and it had nothing to do with the gun control debate.
Why not a gun? Certainly more useful than a toaster or blender. The person opening the account has just made a significant deposit and passed a background check, why not? Unless of course guns are evil. How many people are shot every year by a new gun owner that has just recieved his firearm after opening a bank account? I bet the number is either zero or pretty damned close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Because in that part of the country, everyone has a damned gun and want more. Why, I don't know but that's what they want so the bank gets them to come in that way.
You may as well ask why a toaster or fridge back in the 70's? Why the hell did banks give them away? Because they wanted to get housewives to start their own accounts instead of sticking $$$ into the cookie jar and the like.
Smilies make it all better, right Cleetus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Ok There is very little gun crime up here guys... Toronto is freaking out because the have had 31 deaths last year due to guns... Toronto area has nearly 5 million people in it... Compare that to the USA ???
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
That was my point. How are guns the issue when we have working models where they are not a crime issue. It's something more within our society here. For instance, we have a lot of criminal on criminal deaths due to drugs and other items being illegal, thus a comodity to fight over. The war on drugs.
We have politicians who will not fund the right kind of gun controll (putting gun toting criminals in jaim for a LOOONG time). Recently an initiave to actually fund prosecution of gun criminals has begun in several cities. It's slowly working.
We have a lot of loonies here too, dunno why, maybe something in the water...
It's what moore was saying .... The media scares the $hit out of you in the USA... IT's true I've seen the difference... In Canada the media is more positive.
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Any examples?
Moore is not the media. He is a self promoting huckster with a specific agenda. His documentary Roger & Me was very, very good, but his work since has gone severely downhill IMHO. The trouble is enuff folks buy into his "message" and think it's enlightning. It is not. To me he is nothing more than the National Inquirer with a camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
I look at the news in buffalo or Detriot.... The coverage of crime take front and center... In canada Govenment and Local going ons comes on first .... Crime is normaly a small news bit... Not front and center... Unless it's majorQuote:
Originally Posted by paraflyer
You guys are taking him for face value. I think he operates on a more hidden agenda than most people care to think about. I believe his attempts up to this point are to make you think, get out of the rut your mind is in created by the media and step outside and scream WTF and actually contemplate what's going on rather than relying on the "news" or "rumour". He places himself in a role and generates these topics to hit people in the face. He's not lying, just twisting the truth. As you say he requested that gun be given to him in the bank. So as for what we saw in the film that was the truth.
ANYWAYS... if everone just took a step back and thought about it rather than condemning him as a liar or a great documentary film guy.... he's more of the guy you remember from college that always found a way to piss people off without actually saying or doing much...
Gun control is the ability to hit your target consistently.
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Yeah, but he totally went off topic and started blaming guns for all crimes instead of following up on a good idea.