Don't forget that the German police are, well, German.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
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Don't forget that the German police are, well, German.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
The entire point of this link seems to be that there has been a dramatic increase in accident rates since the speed limit was introduced yet the modern increase along with the past low rate can both be attributed to variance. Look at 1997 vs 2000, do they look similar? Can you tell the major difference between these two years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Aren't we also ignoring the difference in what it takes to get a license in Germany compared to what it takes in America?
OK, now you're just trying to tick me off. I never said that speed causes accidents, what I said was that when speed is coupled with the wrong circumstances, that combination is a killer, and the faster you go, the greater the chance for fatality!Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
You say it's the driver that causes the accidents, well, when I was sideswiped, I wasn't the driver that caused the accident, nor was the guy in the oncoming traffic that I hit. I was only going 50, which was the posted speed and we walked away with only some injuries, had I been doing 60 or more, even 70, we would have all been tits up in a box! But needless to say, I wasn’t responsible… the girl that hit me just lost control and turned hard into my rear wheel…after that I had zero control of the car, I couldn’t even slow it down with ABS, cause the car was sideways almost instantly…
Oh, and going back to this point, but putting it into your own terms, if so many drivers are causing accidents because of carelessness, how is a greater speed limit, or no speed limit, going to weigh in with those people? Do you really want someone talking on a cell phone, eating French fries, doing 100 by you with bald tires? That is you asking for trouble...how old are you anyway, your profile says almost 28, but I don’t believe it? Driving dads explorer doesn't qualify you for know_it_all status, because you obviously don’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
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Originally Posted by Cleetus
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I've had 2 rear tires blow out and one front but the front was at 40mph or so, so I just pulled over right quick.
What I'm saying is that we have this Speed Kills BS ... And it's just not true... Bad Drivers kill and Cleetus hit the nail right on the head... We need more Driver Training... Not lower speed limits
We have more drivers, more roads, more everything, it ain't all black and white dude. Honeslty, shut the **** up, drive withing the speedlimit and you don't have to ****ing worry, you don't get "taxed", you have not near the problems, and your car will appreciate it a little more too.
I read a superb article earlier this year when a reporter spent a day or two with a police (anti) speed unit. I will try to track it down later. At the end of the day the policeman who took the reporter out told him this…(or close to it anyhow)…
“Out there somewhere is a car with your name on it being driven by a bad driver. Sooner or later that car will find you and you will be involved in an accident with that car. The speed you are doing at that moment in time will decide whether you live or die.”
Speed does kill, take it from the experts.
(I really will try to find that article, it was excellent)
So would you rather there be less cops out there on the roads?
IMO, speed limits are just another way of the government trying to protect the stupidest people in the population from themselves. Same with seatbelt laws. If people had common sense enough to control their car at any speed (speeding causes some people to have less control of their car) and to wear their seatbelts, we wouldn't need these kind of laws. Just like the stupid warning labels on products (ie. Do not use electrical device in bathtub), someone has hurt themselves because they were a moron.
Coupled with better drivers, we all need better cars and safer driving conditions...but unfortunately we are stuck driving tin cans with 20and 40 ton trucks all around us, and you can't correct that with better training.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Bottom line is this, I want you to explore this point for just a moment, no matter how well you drive, how safe your car is, no matter what speed you are going, you are taking a risk on the road. Those risks are partly your own responsibility, and the responsibility of every other driver you may encounter on your road trip—people you’ve never met before you have to trust with your life! Responsibilities ranging from proper wheel alignments, good tires, securing loads in the back of a truck, and tuning out the crying baby in the back seat, just to name 4 of the 2 or 3 million variables that will be encountered. (here comes the part I want you to discuss), fact is that if all circumstances are absolutely identical, would you rather your family (mom, dad, wife, kids, girlfriend, who ever it is, as long as it is someone you care deeply about), be in a high speed collision, or a slower, more easily controlled, or at least easily absorbed wreck?
And that my friend is a somber note. Cops investigate accidents often enough to be able to determine how fast a car was going, from skid marks, to how deeply crushed in the car is around it's victims. They know when this was a 50 mph hit or a 90mph hit. Escape, you are no expert, you are not all knowing. Neither are these cops, true, but they have a much longer track record and life experience to qualify for their credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzak
Consider this question...
Two vehicles are travelling along the Motorway/Freeway/Autobahn whatever, one in lane two and one in lane three.
The vehicle in lane two is travelling at 70 mph
The vehicle in lane three is travelling at 100mph
At a given point the vehicles are alongside one another.
At this point they both have stop because of an obstruction ahead.
The vehicle in lane 2 skids from 70mph to a stop. At what speed is the vehicle in lane three still travelling when the vehicle in lane 2 is stationary ?
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The answer
The vehicle in lane three will still be travelling at 71mph???
100mph = 147ft per sec. On impact it all ends in less than half a second?
Will you have time to work it out......?