And how exactly has Canada managed to eliminate it's fat people? Rat poison in the Big Macs?Quote:
Originally Posted by inferno_gn
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And how exactly has Canada managed to eliminate it's fat people? Rat poison in the Big Macs?Quote:
Originally Posted by inferno_gn
What's sad to see is the kids. I try to limit what my kid eats regarding sweets and I make darned sure he gets enough exercise each day. Kids shouldn't be getting diabetes (resulting from obesity at this age!).
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Originally Posted by meatwad
No, the government just gave the cows mad cow disease! :thumbs:
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Originally Posted by Camaro80z
Julie On Beef????https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
As someone who has fought a very long time with my weight it is not just as easy work out and eat less... I have a restictive diet I work out and loose around 2 pounds a month... But put yourself in my shoes ... You want to go out for an Ice Cream... Well there goes the diet.... Now others can eat 5000 Cals a day and do nothing and can't gain weight.... A disease NO... But a disorder... yep
That used to be me back home Noo - I put my skinniness down to walking two miles to the pub of an evening and crawling four miles home :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
I'm 300lbs at 5'9" and it's due to food, booze and no exercise, and I aslo have a slow metabolism (I would assume was due to the no exercise). In the past I lifted weights and I can't build muscle mass and my metabolism does not accelerate. Still, I'm not convinced that I have an issue beyond the fact that I don't want to exercise and do not do so.
I'm fat, it's most likely my fault, I don't deserve special treatment. Some folks can't help it though and it sucks and there is a real issue for them. Those folks need this.
Well...for the first time I am a little shocked at some of the people on WD.
COE (Compulsive Overeating) is in fact a disease. Just like Anorexia or Bulimia
Now I am not talking about a girl that is chubby or a guy with a little beer belly. That is from being lazy.
But really over weight people have a problem...and addiction. Certain foods cause you brain to release chimicals...chimicals that make you feel "good". Almost like an anti-depressant. Why do you think people always turn to food when they are upset. A girl get dumped by her man so she eats ice cream. Fatty foods cause the brain to release dopamine sending you on a natural high. There are other ways to release dopamine such as running, sex and swimming. Ever heard the term "runners high"...that is where is comes from. But eating is the fastest easiest way to release it and it becomes an addiction.
We all have addictions...we just don't have to wear them out in the open like over weight people do.
It isn't funny to laugh at over weight people. I am sure they enjoy being over weight about as much as a drug addict likes being one.
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I have the addiction of smoking, but I'm not going to try to call it a disease. Aids is a disease, smoking or being an alcoholic or overeating I don't consider diseases. Those things I believe are 90% due to the environment a person is in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro80z
Countries that aren't advanced as us and don't have the luxury of having as much free time as the typical American has don't suffer from these three problems. The reason is because these three things are not diseases, they are thre result of a person's environment and will power.
I agree they are all problems, but I don't agree with labeling them as diseases and creating some kind of social welfare system for people with these problems. I smoke. It's my problem and it's up to me to either continue paying for cigarrettes and deal with the problems they cause or else quit all together.
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Originally Posted by Seeker
But I make fun of drug addicts and smokers. Why can't I make fun of fat people?
A few personal thoughts:
- Not all overweight people suffer from an eating disorder
- Obesity is not a disease, it is a symptom
- This symptom can be both attributed to poor health habits (lifestyle) or medical conditions (COE, digestive or glandular problems, etc.)
- Canada's overweight ratio has caught up with the US a few months ago.
That being said, here's what the Onion reported:
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CHICAGO, IL—In spite of billions of dollars spent and decades of research, scientists at the University of Chicago said Monday that the scientific community is no closer to finding a cure for the potentially fatal disease of obesity.
"The obesity epidemic in this country has public-health authorities panicking, and with good reason," said Dr. Seong-Hun Kim, a research associate at the university's department of neurobiology, pharmacology, and physiology. "According to the latest government statistics, 30.6 percent of the adult population and 16.5 percent of children under 19 are obese. As researchers, we feel the same sort of helplessness that many victims of obesity feel."
"Basically, the clock continues to tick as we search for that golden key that will give every American a chance at a healthy, normal life," Kim added.
Many obesity sufferers have expressed frustration over the medical community's inability to cure them.
"I came down with obesity two years after I got married," 41-year-old Oklahoma City resident Fran Torley said. "I know it was hard for my husband to watch me suffer from this disease. When he caught obesity a year later, he got so depressed, he couldn't do anything but sit on the couch. Some days, we sit and watch television from dawn till dusk, hoping for news of a breakthrough."
Kim said he sees no cure on the horizon.
"Each year that we don't have a cure for this dreaded condition, another 300,000 Americans die of obesity-related health problems—hypertension, stroke, heart attack, diabetes," Kim said. "I wish to God there were something I could give these people that would make the obesity go away, but so far, there is no pill that can do that safely and effectively."
Kim said the prescription drugs currently indicated in the treatment of obesity, as well as a host of over-the-counter products, have been shown to produce limited results.
"Even when individuals find success with a certain drug or plan, it often fails to work in the long term," Kim said. "Sometimes, a treatment plan that works for a handful of people will fail to help anyone else. It's very frustrating. As evinced by the widespread nature of the problem, scientists aren't doing enough for these poor overweight people."
Kim's research group has tried to pinpoint the genetic, environmental, and psychological factors that might indicate a susceptibility to obesity.
"For example, we know that obesity tends to run in families," Kim said. "But we have yet to pinpoint exactly what it is that causes, say, the Smith family to splash about their backyard pool blissfully unaffected while, just over the fence, the Jones family languishes 30 percent overweight on their barbecue deck."
Marge Hampton is an obese American who has responded to the epidemic by trying to raise awareness and money for obesity research. In May, Hampton coordinated the Obesity Awareness Five-Mile Fun Ride, which led participants on a motor tour of Chicago's waterfront parks, and she orchestrated an obesity-awareness bake sale last month.
"We used to think obesity was a condition that only affected people with glandular problems, but health officials are now seeing just how widespread the epidemic is," Hampton said. "There's a myth that obese people don't want to change. They do—they just lack the information about how to do it quickly and easily."
Kim's research team has explored preventative measures.
"It would be wonderful if we could find some way to prevent individuals from getting this horrible condition in the first place, perhaps with something akin to a vaccine or a flu shot," Kim said. "We've pursued every avenue—pills, topical creams, nutritional shakes, even holistic cures like vitamin regimens and massage—but nothing has worked."
While others might have been discouraged by failure, Kim has intensified his efforts.
"I'm in the lab day and night," Kim said. "The other researchers will say 'Come have dinner with us,' but I'm so busy that I have to just grab some yogurt from the vending machine. I'm just too busy running over to the research facility on the west side of campus or carrying samples to the lab up on the fourth floor. I've lost 20 pounds since starting this project in January."
Even though he expressed concern about his recent weight loss, Kim said he will continue his work unabated.
"I can't worry about me right now; finding a cure for obesity is far too important," Kim said. "And, honestly, I feel better than I've felt in years. My work, although difficult, is energizing. I can't turn my back on my research while, all around me, Americans are dropping like enormous flies."
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I KNOW it is a lifestyle problem.
Been there!
Every physical problem these days gets a 'disease mode' and becomes a money maker for someone and a hurdle for the victim!
Actually, the Standard American Diet is the problem.
Most of us eat like our parents and that becomes an hereditary situation.
The sad thing is instead of putting patients on a strict healthy diet,(because what they were eating was killing them) doctors prescribe
drugs or chemicals that never heal them but cost big bucks!
I recommend to my loved ones the Hallelujah Diet at www.hacres.com
We need to cleanse our bodies of all the additives, chemicals, and synthetic hormones that is in our foods.
Obesity is caused because we have become addicted to foods that taste good but are empty of the satisfying nutrients our body needs.
So, we eat and crave more, and more and get fat and very sick.
If obesity is a disease it is a psychological one.
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Originally Posted by Ya_know
I keep seeing Homer in a moomoo and saying "Fat..Don't fail me know"
Together, we can make a difference!
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I agree with you 100% on those.Quote:
Not all overweight people suffer from an eating disorder
Obesity is not a disease, it is a symptom
This symptom can be both attributed to poor health habits (lifestyle) or medical conditions (COE, digestive or glandular problems, etc.)
I know how easy it it is to fall into an eating disorder. I have been there. Not with over eating but others.
Noun 1. disease - an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning
So yes...eating disorders are diseases.