They are considering raising the terror alert level.

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Now why would you do that wrbby? Fear of terrorists? Geesh man, they don't want YOUI! To them, you are nothing!
What they want is an occasional "mass murder" like 9/11!! That is all they need, and that is their agenda! No, not individuals! But, mass fear, or "hysteria", is what they do!
What happened in Spain? Care to be serious for a moment?
That is the way "they" work!
So, what if another "Grand" attack on us or the UK happened again?
What and how would you think then?
Is that what it's going to take for YOU (and sooooo many others) to realize that they are at war with us???
Joke all you want about hiding under your desk. BUT: this is NOT the USSR with nukes threatening us now!!
What do you propose???

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I propose hunting Osama Bin Laden rather than hunting Iraqis. :)

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Originally Posted by techs

What the US can do is find Osama and blow him away. If we did that in a timely manner to every terrorist we can really disrupt them.

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Well!! For once we agree!! But damn man: the "punk" is hiding in caves we know nothing about!! Some of them may even be in Iraq!
So, what do YOU suggest, other than get rid ob Bush?
I ask you this because HE is the first Pres to take on the "terrorist" threat! Of course things won't go perfectly! But: at least someone has finally done something about it!!!
First it was the Taliban and Afghanistan! Then it was another "supporting" state: one with definite "aims" against us, and one with difinite "aims" at getting "right" with the fundamentalists!!! So, what do YOU suggest techs?
BTW: this is NOT a partisan fight!!!
When will you ever get that????

"then I really honestly will just throw in the towel."

Wouldn't this be considered politically incorrect? :D

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Well!! For once we agree!! But damn man: the "punk" is hiding in caves we know nothing about!! Some of them may even be in Iraq!
So, what do YOU suggest, other than get rid ob Bush?
I ask you this because HE is the first Pres to take on the "terrorist" threat! Of course things won't go perfectly! But: at least someone has finally done something about it!!!
First it was the Taliban and Afghanistan! Then it was another "supporting" state: one with definite "aims" against us, and one with difinite "aims" at getting "right" with the fundamentalists!!! So, what do YOU suggest techs?
BTW: this is NOT a partisan fight!!!
When will you ever get that????

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It's up to our intelligence agencies to find information that will lead them to the whereabouts of Osama. They CAN find him. Money talks.

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Originally Posted by Tecumseh

"then I really honestly will just throw in the towel."

Wouldn't this be considered politically incorrect? :D

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Yes that would be politically incorrect, but anything goes in this forum.

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I ask you this because HE is the first Pres to take on the "terrorist" threat!

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Well, no, Clinton did plenty, it is just that the media doesn't tell us, cause it is controleed by the right

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Well!! For once we agree!! But damn man: the "punk" is hiding in caves we know nothing about!! Some of them may even be in Iraq!
So, what do YOU suggest, other than get rid ob Bush?
I ask you this because HE is the first Pres to take on the "terrorist" threat! Of course things won't go perfectly! But: at least someone has finally done something about it!!!
First it was the Taliban and Afghanistan! Then it was another "supporting" state: one with definite "aims" against us, and one with difinite "aims" at getting "right" with the fundamentalists!!! So, what do YOU suggest techs?
BTW: this is NOT a partisan fight!!!
When will you ever get that????

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He is the first President to take on the terrorist threat. AFTER 9-11. Before 9-11 he told us our greatest threat was long range missles. In fact on 9-11 Condi Rice was going to give a speech announcing we were making missle defense Bushes top priority. Even after all the evidence that Osama was planning to crash planes in the US.

The part about Afhanistan:
at least someone has finally done something about it!!!
First it was the Taliban and Afghanistan!
I agree with.

This part:
Then it was another "supporting" state: one with definite "aims" against us, and one with difinite "aims" at getting "right" with the fundamentalists!!!
is totally wrong. Definite aims against us? There was no evidence Saddam was involved in any terrorist plot against us since he tried to kill Bush Sr. While this was bad he apparently got the message we sent and stayed out of the way of terrorists who might want to strike the US.
He was not trying to get "right' with the fundamentalists. He paid money to suicide bombers who attacked Israel to try and keep the Osamas from trying to overthrow HIM. They hated him. He hated them. Which is why we supported his war against Iran.

And as annoying as you are, I will help you out and cite some of the things he did...

38 days after taking office, the WTC was bombed, those responsible, Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad and Wali Khan Amin Shah are still behind bars. Where exactly is Osama?

FBI's counter terrorism budget tripled and was doubled for all agencies overall. A single top level national security post was created to coordinate all the federal counterterrorsim agencies. Al Queda cells in over 20 different countries were cleaned up...

1998, after the terrorist attacks in Kenya and Tanzania, he sent tomahawk missles into Sudan and Afghanistan actually leading Newt Gingrich to say "The President did exactly the right thing. By doing this we're sending the signal there are no sanctuaries for terrorists."


Of course 3 years later, Gingrich went on that fair and balanced Fox on Sept 13, 2001 saying that it was a horrible action to only send in the tomahawks, blaming Clinton for not doing enough

Honestly, don't feel like doing much more than saying that Clinton actually issued an Executive order for the assassination of Osama. And after the Cole, assigned Clarke to develop a plan for going after Al Queda, which was shelved by the Bush administration until we invaded Afghanistan, which then followed those guidelines.

All this while battleing a hostile congress, a hostile media and no more BJ's

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

And as annoying as you are, I will help you out and cite some of the things he did...

38 days after taking office, the WTC was bombed, those responsible, Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad and Wali Khan Amin Shah are still behind bars. Where exactly is Osama?

FBI's counter terrorism budget tripled and was doubled for all agencies overall. A single top level national security post was created to coordinate all the federal counterterrorsim agencies. Al Queda cells in over 20 different countries were cleaned up...

1998, after the terrorist attacks in Kenya and Tanzania, he sent tomahawk missles into Sudan and Afghanistan actually leading Newt Gingrich to say "The President did exactly the right thing. By doing this we're sending the signal there are no sanctuaries for terrorists."


Of course 3 years later, Gingrich went on that fair and balanced Fox on Sept 13, 2001 saying that it was a horrible action to only send in the tomahawks, blaming Clinton for not doing enough

Honestly, don't feel like doing much more than saying that Clinton actually issued an Executive order for the assassination of Osama. And after the Cole, assigned Clarke to develop a plan for going after Al Queda, which was shelved by the Bush administration until we invaded Afghanistan, which then followed those guidelines.

All this while battleing a hostile congress, a hostile media and no more BJ's

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Today Zell Miller the Democrat turned Republican was on Meet the Press and he admitted that Newt Gingrich and others wanted to impeach Clinton for going into Bosnia. I believe Newt said, "The US has no right to attack a foriegn country that has not attacked us"

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Originally Posted by WebHead

It's up to our intelligence agencies to find information that will lead them to the whereabouts of Osama. They CAN find him. Money talks.

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Money talks...to who? Someone that will lie just to get the money, then go off and fund another terrorist organization...someone would turn in Osama, just to get the money, then fund future projects all in his name...he would be the greatest martyr the world has ever known, because it was his multi-million dollar reward that got the ball rolling again for Al Quada...

You really should try to think this through just a bit more...

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Originally Posted by techs

What the US can do is find Osama and blow him away. If we did that in a timely manner to every terrorist we can really disrupt them.

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Yeah, just make sure its not before the election! It would be a Bush conspiracy!
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