Terror alert info 3-4 years old.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

So then to you, Bush can do no wrong then?

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I didn't say that and plus I don't agree on some policies that Bush has implememented such as the Medicare Drug Benefit, the New Space Initiative (this needs to be shelved until we can afford it), and the No-Child Left Behind act written by Ted Kennedy. I was looking at the way the anti-Bush crowd criticizes Bush for anything and everything.

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I think that he is doing the best job that he can to protect the country, and alot of people agree with me. He isn't sitting on his butt like Clinton did for 8 years, lobbing a couple of missiles at an aspirin factory, hoping the terrorists would go away.

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But several senior U.S. counterterrorism officials said that the surveillance, obtained in Pakistan and reviewed late last week by authorities in Washington, came amid a continuing stream of intelligence corroborating Al Qaeda's determination to launch strikes in the U.S.

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What this is saying is Al-Qaeda is determined to launch an attack on the US. Tell us something we don't know. Tell us why you launched the alert that particular day.

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On Monday, U.S. officials said that the Al Qaeda surveillance files were found in the possession of Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan, 25, an Al Qaeda computer expert who was arrested in Pakistan in mid-July.

But in a briefing, White House homeland security advisor Frances Townsend described the intelligence as coming not just from Khan but from "multiple reporting streams that came together in such a way to give us real grave concern."

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I honestly don't trust the White House homeland security advisor. Not after what's happened. Is he any more credible than Ridge? Oh, wait, he works for Ridge.
And I seem to remember this song. We have info, trust us.

I also seem to recall the original news stories saying something about trucks or vans carrying in explosives from Mexico. How come nobody is asking who made that report?

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Originally Posted by Zil

I didn't say that and plus I don't agree on some policies that Bush has implememented such as the Medicare Drug Benefit, the New Space Initiative (this needs to be shelved until we can afford it), and the No-Child Left Behind act written by Ted Kennedy. I was looking at the way the anti-Bush crowd criticizes Bush for anything and everything.

Anyway,

I think that he is doing the best job that he can to protect the country, and alot of people agree with me. He isn't sitting on his butt like Clinton did for 8 years, lobbing a couple of missiles at an aspirin factory, hoping the terrorists would go away.

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Um, Clinton did more then any other US president as far as getting this country to attack terrorism

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Originally Posted by Zil

didn't say that and plus I don't agree on some policies that Bush has implememented such as the Medicare Drug Benefit, the New Space Initiative (this needs to be shelved until we can afford it)

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The new space initiative? You mean going to Mars? I don't think Bush has any intention of going to Mars. He has given very few dollars for some planning that is so long term the technology will be completely different by the time it is ready in say 20 years. It was cover for basically cancelling manned spaceflight. The shuttle is now to be used only to fulfill our minimum committment to the space station. There are no new manned vehicles on the boards. And the Hubble will be crashing down on our heads quite soon.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Um, Clinton did more then any other US president as far as getting this country to attack terrorism

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Originally Posted by techs

The new space initiative? You mean going to Mars? I don't think Bush has any intention of going to Mars.

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Does it ever stop with you? It's impossible to argue with you when you have such a hatred and disdain for everything the man says, does, proposes, coughs or sneezes.

I think I'll just stick to the lounge for a bit, I don't need your constant lies and hatred for the President. Thank god they moved all your bull**** into one collective place where I don't have to visit and argue with someone who is so blinded by hate.

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Originally Posted by Zil

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Ok, unlike Bush he didn't take the longest vacations for any president

Unlike Bush he tripled the FBI's counterterrorism funds

Unlike Bush, he found the guys responsible for the first WTC bombing, and they are still in Jail

Unlike Bush the entire government counterterrorism funding doubled

Unlike under Bush he had UN support

Unlike under Bush he gave an Executive order for the assassination of Osama

Unlike Bush I he didn't inact some law outlawing it as Osama is not the head of a country


Shall I keep going

Cole was on his last days, an order was submitted for the removal of Al Queda in Afghanisstan that was shelved by the Bush administration until after 9/11. That proposal was used by the book up until we removed forces for Iraq.

Shall I keep going or do you want to throw out idiotic comments about aspirin factories when Clinton was trying to kill this man, they just missed. Hell, we missed Khadafi too.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Does it ever stop with you? It's impossible to argue with you when you have such a hatred and disdain for everything the man says, does, proposes, coughs or sneezes.

I think I'll just stick to the lounge for a bit, I don't need your constant lies and hatred for the President. Thank god they moved all your bull**** into one collective place where I don't have to visit and argue with someone who is so blinded by hate.

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Oh yeah, and you haven't lied yourself :rolleyes:

Just run on away like the rest of the conservatives around here. You no longer have an audience so you know your bull**** won't stick. We are on to your crap over here and won't be bullied by your stupid worthless talking head points that aren't backed up with ****. So yeah, go run off now while acting like you are the bigger man or that we are the ones insane when all along you just can't even come up with good reasoning when put up against people who haven't been fooled by the last several decades worth of the right winged hatred bull****.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Um, Clinton did more then any other US president as far as getting this country to attack terrorism

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Originally Posted by Zil

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Unlike Bush, he found the guys responsible for the first WTC bombing, and they are still in Jail

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Clinton did no such thing. Again, you give credit to someone just because he's in office...Clinton didn't find, prosecute, or imprison anybody. Everything else you mentioned was all bullsh!t too!

All right buttheads, prove to me that Clinton didn't do anything

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

All right buttheads, prove to me that Clinton didn't do anything

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He didn't do anything...remember his testimony... :p

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Originally Posted by Zil

Does it ever stop with you? It's impossible to argue with you when you have such a hatred and disdain for everything the man says, does, proposes, coughs or sneezes.

I think I'll just stick to the lounge for a bit, I don't need your constant lies and hatred for the President. Thank god they moved all your bull**** into one collective place where I don't have to visit and argue with someone who is so blinded by hate.

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Ending manned spaceflight as a means to plan for going to Mars? Makes no sense. Cutting NASA's budget? Yes, Bush wants to go to Mars.
In your dreams.
Bye

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Oh yeah, and you haven't lied yourself :rolleyes:

Just run on away like the rest of the conservatives around here. You no longer have an audience so you know your bull**** won't stick. We are on to your crap over here and won't be bullied by your stupid worthless talking head points that aren't backed up with ****. So yeah, go run off now while acting like you are the bigger man or that we are the ones insane when all along you just can't even come up with good reasoning when put up against people who haven't been fooled by the last several decades worth of the right winged hatred bull****.

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Haha bullied! What side leaves countless of posts on Bush's imcompetence/lying/scheming? A constant barage from the Anti-Bush crowd.

I have constantly posted links with non-partisan information, yet it is time and time again discounted because your side "chooses not to believe it" or "the media has such a right wing slant". Then I bring stuff that I disagree with Bush about and instead of having an intelligent dialog about it, your side continues to attack Bush. You can do nothing else besides this, constantly, day in day out.

And please point out to me where I have lied, I'd really like to see that.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

All right buttheads, prove to me that Clinton didn't do anything

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You need to make your case for it, you posted his "accomplishments" now you need to back up your claims.

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Originally Posted by techs

Ending manned spaceflight as a means to plan for going to Mars? Makes no sense. Cutting NASA's budget? Yes, Bush wants to go to Mars.
In your dreams.
Bye

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I'm gonna stay in this because you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about.


Can the Shuttle fly to Mars? No. Then getting rid of it is the first step to changing the way NASA operates. Again, it doesn't take 9 months to revamp the entire Space Program, it will be done over a period of years.

He proposed 15 BILLION EXTRA DOLLARS for NASA, how is that cutting the funding? You have no links again, you have no proof, just theories and "this is what I think".