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Originally Posted by gazzak

We've solved fusion power and been using it for years now. We just don't like to share. Excuse me for a while, I'm just going to teleport to Scotland for a night out.

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I don't think we have solved fusion and are hiding it. I do think there is a least a chance that we have solved the Zero Point problem. It might be very easy to make a Zero Point energy source with tremendous explosive power. Therefore it is being kept under wraps.

Global warming is certainly not caused by the US. We have cleaned up our cars, our factories, etc.

It's the 3rd world that is causing all of this. Look at India, Southeast Asia, Africa, China, Latin America, places where most of the population meets its energy needs by burning wood, coal, and dung. I guarantee that 1 person burning wood or coal in a furnace/fireplace/firepit for one year is definitely polluting more than my waterheater, furnace, car, air conditioner, propane grill, my percentage of the pollutants that escape from the electricity plants, and the percentage of the pollutants that escape from the factories that produce all the goods I buy.

We may have pollution, but have you ever visited Mexico City or Manila? When I went to Manila and Mexico, I've never breathed dirtier air in my life.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Global warming is certainly not caused by the US. We have cleaned up our cars, our factories, etc.

It's the 3rd world that is causing all of this. Look at India, Southeast Asia, Africa, China, Latin America, places where most of the population meets its energy needs by burning wood, coal, and dung. I guarantee that 1 person burning wood or coal in a furnace/fireplace/firepit for one year is definitely polluting more than my waterheater, furnace, car, air conditioner, propane grill, my percentage of the pollutants that escape from the electricity plants, and the percentage of the pollutants that escape from the factories that produce all the goods I buy.

We may have pollution, but have you ever visited Mexico City or Manila? When I went to Manila and Mexico, I've never breathed dirtier air in my life.

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Imagine that, and when you take into consideration that those were among the countries that were EXEMPT from the Kyoto Protocol......

Are you actually trying to claim that the USA does not contribute to global pollution?

You're right that there are other, worse places out there... but... have you ever BEEN to San Francisco?

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

Are you actually trying to claim that the USA does not contribute to global pollution?

You're right that there are other, worse places out there... but... have you ever BEEN to San Francisco?

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I didn't claim that the USA doesn't contribute. I don't think that Canada produces much pollution either (with the simple fact that Canada doesn't produce much of anything). What I said was its nothing compared to these 3rd world countries.

And yes, I have been to San Franscico, and I would breathe the air on its worst day over breathing the air in Manila or Mexico City on an average day.

Have you ever been to Mexico City or Manila or anywhere in the 3rd world?

I will completely agree that Mexico is a terrible pollution problem that needs to be cleaned up.

Another one, have you ever seen Cleetus' outhouse? Man, now THERE's a danger to the ozone layer. :uke: