Delegates mock Kerry with 'purple heart' bandages

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Originally Posted by techs

Absolutely tasteless and disrespectful.
But to Bush Republicans our military personnel are throw aways anyway. Trot them out for the rousing round of applause. Then cut their benefits and send them into battle with out enough troops, or equipment.
I wonder how McCain feels about speaking for Bush now?

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Yes, almost as tasteless and disrespectful as a certain candidate who actually threw medals/ribbons over a fence and voted "Yes" to put troops into battle and then voted "No" to funding for their equipment, which by the way is all on record.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Yes, almost as tasteless and disrespectful as a certain candidate who actually threw medals/ribbons over a fence and voted "Yes" to put troops into battle and then voted "No" to funding for their equipment, which by the way is all on record.

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Oh please, he voted no on the exact wording the president forced them to take, as he would have vetoed the bill they were trying to push through for the same amount of funding but under different stipulations that would have made some of the money a loan, forcing Iraq to pay us back. Peddle your lies and half truths elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Oh please, he voted no on the exact wording the president forced them to take, as he would have vetoed the bill they were trying to push through for the same amount of funding but under different stipulations that would have made some of the money a loan, forcing Iraq to pay us back.
Peddle your lies and half truths elsewhere.

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Right, the whole "I voted for it, before I voted against it". If the man seriously wanted to fund the troops and that is a top priority, did it matter who paid for it?


And you agree that Kerry throwing the medals over the fence was tasteless and dissrepectful?

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Originally Posted by Zil

Yes, almost as tasteless and disrespectful as a certain candidate who actually threw medals/ribbons over a fence and voted "Yes" to put troops into battle and then voted "No" to funding for their equipment, which by the way is all on record.

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Nevermind that the No vote was against the method of paying for the equipment (ie. having Iraq pay it back vs not), and not the equipment itself. Conveinient that the Kerry bashers leave that part out.

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Originally Posted by Commander Klarg

Nevermind that the No vote was against the method of paying for the equipment (ie. having Iraq pay it back vs not), and not the equipment itself. Conveinient that the Kerry bashers leave that part out.

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Again, if the man seriously wanted to fund the troops and that is a top priority, did it matter who paid for it? 88 other senators disagreed with Mr. Kerry, including most from his own party.

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Originally Posted by techs

Absolutely tasteless and disrespectful.
But to Bush Republicans our military personnel are throw aways anyway. Trot them out for the rousing round of applause. Then cut their benefits and send them into battle with out enough troops, or equipment.
I wonder how McCain feels about speaking for Bush now?

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Yeah. Bush must've offered something very special to McCain in order to get him to go up there and speak like that.

I feel sorry for the families that have had to put their money together to buy bullet-proof vests for their sons/daughters who are soliders in Iraq.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Again, if the man seriously wanted to fund the troops and that is a top priority, did it matter who paid for it? 88 other senators disagreed with Mr. Kerry, including most from his own party.

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Then why was it President Bush said he would veto any other plan? It would have meant funding either way right?

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Originally Posted by Zil

Right, the whole "I voted for it, before I voted against it". If the man seriously wanted to fund the troops and that is a top priority, did it matter who paid for it?


And you agree that Kerry throwing the medals over the fence was tasteless and dissrepectful?

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Not once did I ever say anything about the medals, I don't agree with it, but it wasn't me, it was his choice and freedom to do as he chooses to.

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Originally Posted by WebHead

I feel sorry for the families that have had to put their money together to buy bullet-proof vests for their sons/daughters who are soliders in Iraq.

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And to think that a senator that is running for president could have voted to equip them better and didn't. Shame on him and those 11 senators that voted with him, because they were too worried that it would cost too much to protect their safety.

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Originally Posted by Zil

And to think that a senator that is running for president could have voted to equip them better and didn't. Shame on him and those 11 senators that voted with him, because they were too worried that it would cost too much to protect their safety.

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Dude, it would have been funded any way possible, they wanted a reasoned thought out plan rather then the botched up non-thinking plans the present administration has been throwing. Suddenly you also forget that it was a very close vote in the House.

You are aware there will be another vote on more funds, it is all a matter whether or not it can be held off until after the elections.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Again, if the man seriously wanted to fund the troops and that is a top priority, did it matter who paid for it? 88 other senators disagreed with Mr. Kerry, including most from his own party.

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It is still disingenuous to say Kerry was against funding the troops when his vote was determined by fiscal responsibility, not emnity towards our soldiers. I applaud him for standing up for fiscal responsibility when few others did, even if it was in vain.

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Dude, it would have been funded any way possible, they wanted a reasoned thought out plan rather then the botched up non-thinking plans the present administration has been throwing. Suddenly you also forget that it was a very close vote in the House.

You are aware there will be another vote on more funds, it is all a matter whether or not it can be held off until after the elections.

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Here's the basics of what he did:

"If Iraq doesn't pay for this, then screw the whole bill, I'm not voting for it."

when someone who was concerned for the safety of the troops would say:

"Who cares if we have to foot the bill and how much it costs, keep those guys safe."



You would think as a combat veteran, that Kerry would vote for the measure regardless who was paying for it, as long as it helped the troops.

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Originally Posted by Commander Klarg

It is still disingenuous to say Kerry was against funding the troops when his vote was determined by fiscal responsibility, not emnity towards our soldiers. I applaud him for standing up for fiscal responsibility when few others did, even if it was in vain.

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And when has he ever voted "No" on a bill because it included wasteful pork? If you want to argue fiscal responsibility, do it on another bill that doesn't involve the safety and equipping of our soldiers.

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Originally Posted by Zil

And to think that a senator that is running for president could have voted to equip them better and didn't. Shame on him and those 11 senators that voted with him, because they were too worried that it would cost too much to protect their safety.

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The lack of equipment happened long before that vote.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Here's the basics of what he did:

"If Iraq doesn't pay for this, then screw the whole bill, I'm not voting for it."

when someone who was concerned for the safety of the troops would say:

"Who cares if we have to foot the bill and how much it costs, keep those guys safe."



You would think as a combat veteran, that Kerry would vote for the measure regardless who was paying for it, as long as it helped the troops.

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No, actually this is more then about what happened

Pretty much the same in every account I have read.

Sorry, in the end the situation really looks like it is Kerry that can stand in the face of adversity and hold on to some actual principles. Honestly, the more I am reading into the half truths by the media, the more I am going back to voting for this guy.

You would think that if Bush had actually served and was actually a true conservative he wouldn't throw both our money and our soldiers lives away.