Blue Screen of Death!!! Win XP Pro SP2

it's impossible to find the correct drivers that work for this stupid card...

it's an ATI Radeon 9200 SE on Win XP Pro. I wish I made a restore point the very second I turned this computer on when I got it. I'm getting random BSOD screens with no reasons listed, just a location, now my driect-x is crapping up (got a BSOD with dxg.sys), that's the only thing holding this system up from being at least decent. Should I switch back to my nVidia GeForce4 MX440? the display will be crappy, but at least I'll be able to play games in low quality.

I got the drivers from GeCube, they worked alright for a bit...and then crapped out just like the others. I would love to have the original drivers that came with the card, but the card came with the compy when I bought it off Ebay, so I'm kinda SOL.

if anyone has the correct drivers for an ATI RADEON 9200SE 128MB PCI video card for Windows XP, and you can send them to me, or direct me to where I can get more help, LET ME KNOW!!!

have you gone the simple route?
I mean have you done an f8 boot to safe mode and run chkdsk /f before reloading the drivers?

All the 'old drivers' for Nvidia Live on links off this page

sorry about the long wait between reply's, was on a weekend road trip to TX. Anywho, the nVidia drivers that I need for the GeForce4 I've already got.

I'm looking for ATI drivers https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/02/1.gif

while in TX I spied a Comp USA, but alas I was too late...the doors were locked, and I could not purchase a new video card...to put this one out of its memory by selling it on ebay...so I'm back where I started, just a few days later.

Any recommendations for a new video card for my system? I'm tempted to get an uber-new card, but I don't want the video card processor to be faster than the CPU...that would just be strange. I want cheap-ish, but very effective and reliable. mostly reliability.

Windows update had some drivers for my ATI, but only supported 2D. it wouldn't let me install any 3D. wouldn't even run DirectX9 diagnostic tests for 3D. so I went back to my original drivers.

btw - the system still crashed with the Windows Upd. drivers.

Oh well. I've had it. anyone want an ATI 9200SE 128MB graphics card? I switched back to my old CeForce 4 MX440...64MB...GRR!. at least it's dependable.

the ATI card will be at my local computer parts store, possibly being traded for a RAM chip or two...or maybe some dusting spray.

Thanks lots everyone for the help and support, too bad ATI wasn't fully behind this model. if anyone knows where I can find the correct drivers that would make it run reliably, I'd be more than happy to plug it back in!

but as for now, I have secondary HDD Virus problems. Another thread altogether. thanks everyone!

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.. I'm looking for ATI drivers https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/02/1.gif ...

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Arrrrgh ! .. confus-ed again ! :rolleyes: - so by way of apology I turned you up this - ATI drivers & archived versions - btw 'chipset' drivers & garts & stuff will come into this also, so anything that windows xp would know about natively has a better chance of just working (i.e the gf4 mentioned which made me confused ;)) for newer stuff you may find you need some other patches to get everything just so & folks don't realise that these other video related things aren't necessarily provided by the video driver & that you need other bits too ..

give this a try...worked for me using a radeon 8500.

Right click-mouse over My Computer
Properties
Hardware(Tab)
Device Manager(button)
Click [+] next to System devices
right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was SiS AGP)
Update Driver(button)

Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
Next(button)
Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
Next(button)
Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Next(button)
Finish(button)
Reboot.

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PS - If I were to upgrade to a new Mobo and Processor, what software would I have to go through for the upgrade? would XP recognize it? would I be able to reuse everything else that I already have? I'm in the grey when it comes to that major of an upgrade.

thanks for all the help guys/gals, and everyone else!

Sockhatguy

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Windows XP has some really good native driver support (especially for hardware 1.5+ years old). Otherwise, you can generally get updated drivers from manufacturer websites (www.ati.com / www.nvidia.com / www.via.com.tw/en/index.jsp). Also, new motherboards come with driver disks, so it's usually a non-issue in that regard.

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I have some downtime coming so I'm thinking of looking for some more slot-A or socket-A Motherboards so I can still use AMDs. (I'm not much for pentium). any suggestions? I want to run up to 3.0 GHz on the processor, and have at least a Gig of ram either DDR or PC-100.

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AMD doesn't make a 3.0GHz processor. I think their highest clocked CPU is 2.2 or 2.4GHz, but runs at the equivilant (or better) of a 4GHz Intel chip (the 4000+ chip). If you're going to upgrade and not get "newer" stuff, you'll likely end up getting an Athlon XP CPU (an Athlon 3000+--2.16GHz--run about $100 online for OEM versions, $130 or so for the retail version), and require DDR memory (PC2100, PC2700, PC3200, etc) SDR PC100 and PC133 RAM was last used in Athlon 1.4GHz systems (if I remember correctly).

The 64 bit AMD processors are nice (though a bit more expensive), BUT you can download a free copy of the 64 bit version of Windows XP for free from the Microsoft website, so you could, in theory, get a free copy of Windows (at least until their beta ends). The only downside is that you need a CD/RW drive because the file download is a CD image, not the actual files. And it's about 450 megs or so, which takes a fair bit to download.

Windows XP 64 bit download link:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/6...n/upgrade.mspx

You do have to enter valid contact info, just so you know.

Oh, to answer another question of yours: Unless you have another monitor/TV hooked up, it should NOT display a secondary display adatper in the Hardware Manager under "display adapters."

Good luck.

-<MG>

I don't know what kind of crack this computer is on, but it's really starting to get to me.

I'm having the same problems with the GeForce 4 MX 440 that I had with the ATI 9200SE. ...except the GF4 is much slower (64 MB ram instead of 128 MB ram on the ATI). So, later tonight I'm going back to the ATI, and I will try to contact the Ebay person I bought the compy from, to see if they can send me the original drivers for the ATI 9200SE. I would LOVE to format the drive(s) and start anew from scratch, but the compy came with XP Pro Installed, and no disks for anything.

I tried removing SP2 to see if that was the case, but without SP2, the crashes come even faster than before. I'm going to hold off on the re-install of SP2, so I can at least get the correct drivers up and running before I do it all over again.

I've received a variety of error messages, the error reporting always says a "Device Driver" but it is unknown what driver it is or what caused it in the first place. it mostly happens during graphically-intense gaming, but it also happens when I'm browsing the web. even a couple times while I was trying to post on here.

I'm getting desperate to find a cure for my computer's addiction to crashing, and I'm willing to post any and all information that is asked for, even what size shotgun shell I'm thinking about using to turn the computer into mulch with. (20 Guage buckshot, btw).

most of the BSOD's are for a .dll file, either ATI3dvag.dll, ati3duag.dll, NVsomething something something...all my video device drivers. (the drivers for the current video card, of course. I'm sure to uninstall the previous drivers before adding the new drivers to their respective devices). Thanks again for the help, if anyone has another idea for the ultimate demise of this compy, let me know, I might just record it and post it someday.

Sockhatguyhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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.. I'm having the same problems with the GeForce 4 MX 440 that I had with the ATI 9200SE. ...except the GF4 is much slower (64 MB ram instead of 128 MB ram on the ATI)... I tried removing SP2 to see if that was the case, but without SP2, the crashes come even faster than before. I'm going to hold off on the re-install of SP2, so I can at least get the correct drivers up and running before I do it all over again...

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Start again dude .. FDisk it & be done ;) - if you are convinced you have a legal copy of xp, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't retrieve your original key from your current install & go somewhere 'bad' to find yourself a copy of xp & burn that for later use, or get someone else to give you a copy so that you can start from scratch - my technical diagnosis is FUBARed install (btw that's 'a well known swearword in the past tense' up beyond all recognition! meaning beyond all reasonable repair - ;)) - once you start all this patching re-patching & removing patches that conflict with other stuff something has obviously not worked as expected at some point & spending time trying to figure it all out & fix it is just a waste of time, unless you get lucky & then it probably isn't 'really right' at all anyway.. sure if it then doesn't want to work then I'll mail you some shotgun shells - 12 gauge or would you like 8 gauge as thats for killing bigger things ? :thumbs:

I have an idea...I have no clue if it would work or not...but first...

where do I find my original registry key for my Windblows XP Pro, or what application would I need to get it? If I were to get a copy of Win XP, and with my original key for the clean install after I format my HDD, would it still recognize the key? or would it all just be FUBARed? If that turns to be the case, I'll have a link posted for the video of my compy's demise.

My idea: I have an extra HDD. it is currently inside my computer as an extra HDD. Could I copy & Paste strictly all of the necessary XP files onto the drive, then remove the drive and do a full format of the original drive, and then attempt a re-install of XP from the extra HDD instead of a disk?

I lost ya, didn't I?

Leave it up to me to find a quick fix in the most complicated way...

Just to keep this thread updated, I re-installed the ATI 9200SE. on the card itself it said "GC-9200L/(SE)" on one of the stickers. The card was manufactured by GeCube with the ATI processor. so I installed the manufacturer's drivers. it seemed to be working well. Ran EverQuest for an hour and a half, and even worked fine as I exited the game. I started Ad-Aware and AVG to both perform scans (at the same time...oops), as I was leaving to go to work. I just came home, turned on the monitor...

BSOD. IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0000000A (0x835BD33F, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x80509BDA)

The microsoft website really is not of much help to one that is still studying A+ certification. some of it is familiar, but along with bad links (yes, microsoft.com has bad links *GASP!*)...I learned more reading magazines while on the Porcelain Throne.

So, I'm upset with MS.

my questions: How do I find my registry key so I can do a clean install, also the correct key(s) that I would need so my system is not COMPLETELY FUBARed.

And also, what digital camcorders can record in high-speed so I can play the compy's demise in slow-mo?

I really, really appreciate the help and comic relief, when I'm out of debt I will most definetely donate more to the site. This site has been the best with fast replys and knowledgable staff/Mods. Thanks again guys/gals/paladins/necromancers/druids/etc.

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.. I lost ya, didn't I? ..Leave it up to me to find a fix in the most complicated way... This site has been the best with fast replys and knowledgable staff/Mods. Thanks again guys/gals/paladins/necromancers/druids/etc.

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He-he-he .. your questions are nearly as confus-ed as my style of answering can be ;) I think I recognise a fellow soul who every time he gets an answer to something it just raises more questions ! - its a tough life when you are like that, 'dumb' is so much simpler ;) :eek2: :devil:

& Hey I got promoted ! .. I'm 'staff' now - or maybe a druid or even a paladin ? :D (I bet the last one sends a few looking for a dictionary !) - the forum bit of WD is 'really' seperate from the main bit of the site (the whole place used to be free, but nasty old ecconomic necessity reared its ugly head, so any fees actually go to some shareholders far away in the ether, but it lets us volunteers {no pay for me here sadly} get on with helping folks driven 'potty' by computer issues which is what lured me here in the first place to ask a question & now somehow I feel obliged to try & answer them all ! :rolleyes: This place gets you like that ;) :D, theres thankfully still a few of us lurking who feel the same way :thumbs: )

So .. answers ! (Rather than historical assides etc btw the 'humour' remarks are most appreciated too, this place lets me exercise both my nerd & humour chips together - bonus ! :thumbs2: )

To find your XP key a utility like those Magic jelly beans will be helpful D/l link

I note your errors are still of the 'cocked up' IRQ mis-allocated variety (thats what that IRQ not less or equal error is about (but writing in english isn't a Billy Boy/M$ speciality of course, for all the money that company makes you think they could manage a few $s on sorting out their help stuff - mind you that'd hit my 'day job' hard as his inefficiency in that respect puts food on my table !)

On your 'ideas' well besides a clean install there's a few variations you might choose to try - it depends on what needs saving, first is an over the top re-install or sometimes called a repair installation 'icky' billy Boy 'destructions' link - that should leave programs etc intact - not 100% guaranteed 'supposed to' is more accurate & all service packs/patches need reinstalling but generally they are stored locally unless you tell it different ( I suggested that earlier but I can't fathom whether you did or didn't try that), another is a parallel install where you do a fresh copy in a completely different directory without zapping the original Another 'icky' link .

On your can I 'cut & paste' comments - well yes you can but you won't be able to use it to run or to install from (you really need an install disk for that hence my 'bad' suggestion earlier - loads of machines seem to ship now without propper install disks & its damned inconvient for folks, but as it saves the original manufacturer some pennies so I guess its to be expected), all that'll do is leave your files there so that you can fish out any data you want & I'd suggest you might as well just copy any data that needs saving & brace yourself for a bit of re-installation or go with the repair option - OR you could use something like an imaging tool (for example symantec's Ghost) which can be used to make an exact copy that will run (with a little bit of 'magic' {a boot loader/manager} the nerd term is 'dual boot' - if you want to 'learn' about that - I'm happy to talk you through it)

Digital cameras aren't my strong point ;) - if you have specific requirements open a thread in the appropriate forum giving more detail & one of the other helpers or 'aunty' Noo our head mod will help you probably -she's pretty good with that stuff :))

Edit: if you need advice on the 'bad' stuff I mentioned - please use pm rather than a straightforward post as for legal mumbo-jumbo reasons, direct discussion of those aspects of fixing aren't encouraged at all here, even though in this case I can well see a 'need' & a certain moral legitamacy in being 'bad' ;)

I'm having very similar problems.

I just changed out an NVIDIA GeForce 4400Ti card in my boyfriend's computer to an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (all-in-wonder).

I keep getting blue screens every half hour to 3 hours. First, it was the Stop page, referencing file ati2dvag.dll, and now, more frequently, it is the Stop page referencing Win32k.sys...

From looking around on various forums, I found Microsoft's "work-around" for the problem... Change hardware acceleration to "none" in the advanced display settings. So far, that is working - the computer's been on for about 4 hours with no blue screen, but the negative performance impact is unnacceptable. It's horribly slow. I was thinking of trying to decrease the hardware acceleration only part-way, without going to the extreme "none," but that's still only a half-*** "solution," and I don't think it will work.

On another forum, somebody said, "The problem seems to have been fixed. Following the advice of users on another forum, I disable ACPI in my hardware configuration, went through the driver reinstallation process that followed upon my reboot, and now everything seems to be running *more or less* okay. I did have one momentary glitch, but it seems that ATI's VPU Recover utility caught it and was able to make things run smoothly thereafter. I'm crossing my fingers, but at this point I'm getting infinitely better results than I was before."

He/she didn't go more into detail, though - and I have no idea where to disable ACPI or whether I should.

Someone else, in another forum, said, "Had blue screen crash with this ATI driver, but found that by going into safe mode and changing the video resolution, it would correct the problem. You could then boot into regular windows, change the video mode to whatever you needed and everything works. (I've had to do this on two different machines). Good Luck!" - also with no clarification.

I'm not sure how to change the video resolution, what I should change it to, and whether I should change it!

Ugh.

BSOD. IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0000000A (0x835BD33F, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x80509BDA)

I have encountered this kind of message and is physical dumping afterwards after I switched to Radeon 9200 SE 128mb...I tried to switch to another video card from NVidia...but it is still the same...Later we found out that the problem was on the memory (mine was 256MB DDR PC 333).Maybe the problem is in your motherboard,processor and memory...The card runs great on my computer with specification below. I even tested LOTR the battle for middle earth...it's the best video card I have so far.

My specs:
Athlon XP 2200, Asus AS733 Mother board, 128 MB Radeon 9200 SE video card, 512 MB RAM (2-256 MB DDR PC 333), 80 GB Seagate Barracuda Hard Drive, XP Service Pack 2 OS....

All these posts have something in common...

Nvidia and ATI cards were both used in the same system at different points. That says to me that the old drivers were not uninstalled correctly (or even at all).

guru3d here has some nvidia file removal utils. I would give Nvidia nasty file remover a go and the Detonator RIP

Oh and don't forget add/remove programs to remove nview etc..