F6'ing the WinXP Installation w/o floppy

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July 31st, 2006, 10:10 AM
mduren

is your laptop capable of legacy usb...if so then you might be able to use a thumb drive.
July 31st, 2006, 10:22 AM
Ferrit

I have yet to see any XP install that allows sata drivers on a thumb drive
July 31st, 2006, 10:46 AM
peshek77

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGmissinglink

Your laptop has one sata drive teh does not install window as raid configuration!!!!!! try repair install.

I am sorry to say that but you are missing the point. I can do a repair install with no problems, but I don't want to. I put my XP professional CD it, it loads everything before the screen where it asks you what you want to do (repair windows, do a new instal, and exit) and when I say do a new install, it tells me no hard drives detected.

I mean no disrespect, but I know what I am talking about and it seems to me that you are not completely clear on it. Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. Sorry.

In any case, thanks for the help.
July 31st, 2006, 10:58 AM
peshek77

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOB IROC

There are all sorts of guides if you search for Slipstreaming Windows XP on a search engine. I used a program called nLite to help put all the updates I needed onto my disk. I was able to put all the updates and even integrate Media Player 10 to the windows disk.

I downloaded the administrative updates including SP2 and what drivers I needed for my system right to the disk. So if I ever have to re-install Windows my machine has all the drivers I need to get started and I just may have to update them.

Thanks, I will definately try that. Oh and by the way, the repair install will go through with no problems, but I don't want all the evaluation/demo/promotion garbade that gets installed with it. So my guess is the drivers for the controller are somewhere on the CD. Even if they are not I know it is some kind of an Intel product, so I am sure I will be able to find the drivers somewhere on the Intel website.

The following is an partial image of my Hardware Devices:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...hek77/SATA.jpg

It is probably going to take me a cople of days to try the slipstream, because I have major exams tommorow and on Wednesday. As soon as I am able to try it I will post the results.

Thanks for all the help. I have yet to ask a computer question on this formu and not be able to figure it out. :)

P.S.: What is a thub drive? The little usb drive(H:1/2", L:1 1/2" you put on a keychaing?
July 31st, 2006, 11:15 AM
Ferrit

Peshek77 you are correct. The only way I see it happening for you is to use a slipstreamed cd as Bob Iroc says.
Nlite is a very good one,not the only one but a good one.
Here are some other guides
http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin/...t=ST;f=2;t=530
http://www.igniq.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=151

Yes a thumb drive is a usb drive keychain or other,but the XP install will not use it
July 31st, 2006, 12:59 PM
geoscomp

and remember, that uses windows xp tablet edition as a native OS..if you use a standard xp disk instead of a tablet edition disk, then you may lose the tablet customization features.
July 31st, 2006, 02:08 PM
Stalemate

Quote:

Originally Posted by peshek77

...P.S.: What is a thub drive? The little usb drive(H:1/2", L:1 1/2" you put on a keychaing?

That is exactly what a thumbdrive is.

I use a couple to transfer files around for work and for personal use instead of having to burn to a CD or use (gasp) diskettes.

If you're using WinXP then they are automatically recognized. Some Win98 systems will require drivers to see them.

One of mine (SanDisk Cruzer Mini) has gone through the washing machine and the drier. Twice.

Still works.
July 31st, 2006, 02:11 PM
3fingersalute

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrit

Bob Iroc is correct. If XP does not recognize the sata controller and it cant find a harddrive to install to then yes you need F6 period.
Slipstreaming is likely the way to do it to avoid having all that OEM garbage installed to the system.

Exactly - We purchase strictly Dell computers only here at work (state contract). Anyhow, I will not use the build that comes on the computer from Dell, nor will I reinstall Windows with the cd they provide, because its bloated with crap I don't need or want.

Every Dell I get in gets the partition wiped from the drive on first bootup; I never even bother booting to the OS they have loaded on the hard drive. I use our own corporate cd, slipstreamed, etc. and then make a ghost image when I'm all done so that if there are multiple computers, I can just push my good image out to the rest of them.
July 31st, 2006, 02:13 PM
3fingersalute

Quote:

Originally Posted by mduren

is your laptop capable of legacy usb...if so then you might be able to use a thumb drive.

Windows 2000 and XP simply look to the A: drive for the additional drivers. You don't get to specify what drive letter you want, so a thumb drive, usb hard drive, cd-drive etc. is of no use for this instance.
July 31st, 2006, 05:38 PM
mduren

silly me but if your bios supports bootable usb like mine...why can't you make a thumb drive or an external hard drive bootable with the winxp setup and your sata drivers on it?
July 31st, 2006, 05:55 PM
Ferrit

Quote:

Originally Posted by mduren

silly me but if your bios supports bootable usb like mine...why can't you make a thumb drive or an external hard drive bootable with the winxp setup and your sata drivers on it?

Distinct possibilities
July 31st, 2006, 07:20 PM
peshek77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrit

Peshek77 you are correct. The only way I see it happening for you is to use a slipstreamed cd as Bob Iroc says.
Nlite is a very good one,not the only one but a good one.
Here are some other guides
http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin/...t=ST;f=2;t=530
http://www.igniq.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=151

Yes a thumb drive is a usb drive keychain or other,but the XP install will not use it

I will definately give those a try. Thanks Ferrit. And also thank you Bob Iroc.

Here is a list of the posible boot places (if they are detected) I can use:

CDROM/DVD
Removable Disk
Main Hard Drive
USB Storage Stick
USB Hard Drive
Boot to LAN

I acually have a USB Hard Drive and it detected it at startup. However, I don't have an OS installed there. I am not quite certain, but I think my options just got expanded a little bit. Am I correct :_)?

In any case I will try to slipstream the SATA drivers to a CD and see what happanes. I know geoscomp mentioned something about loosing the "special" features of the Tablet PC Edition. That is a concern I have. I will use WinXP Professional. This should allow me to use the additional services correct?
July 31st, 2006, 09:02 PM
geoscomp

Here is a list of the added features of the tablet edition. There is no way to know if you will maintain these or lose them as far as I know. Nobody that I know has tried it yet. I think there are a few things, such as instant landscape/portrait display modes, etc. that aren't included in that list
July 31st, 2006, 09:42 PM
peshek77

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoscomp

Here is a list of the added features of the tablet edition. There is no way to know if you will maintain these or lose them as far as I know. Nobody that I know has tried it yet. I think there are a few things, such as instant landscape/portrait display modes, etc. that aren't included in that list

Right now I am creating an ISO(with nLite) from my OEM cd and it detected it as Windows XP Professional, not Tablet PC Edition. I was able to weed out the "PRELOAD" and a couple other directories that I think contain the "garbage". We will see. I will post results shortly... That is .. if I can get my windows working after I try this :_)!

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