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Papa, you're a great example of how the rest of us should look out for each other. Generally speaking, the world's people have degenerated into a selfish lot, thinking only of themselves...mostly applying situational ethics to everything is the rule rather than the exception. "What's in it for me?" seems to be most everybody's motto. You're a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the inspiring stories... :D
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[quote]Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
<strong>I have no regrets of braking his jaw because of that he was caught and a sick guy is off the street and I saved a woman from him.
I never resort to violence unless its in self defence or protecting others. If I knew he was a rapist at the time I would of done more than kick him in the balls and break his jaw.
Cheers
Papa"I dream of Jeannie" Smurf</strong><hr></blockquote>
Amen, Papa. Anyone that rapes and beats women oughtta have his ***** ripped off.
I could never be a cop. Those guys put up with so much BS and most of them never let it get to them. If it were me, I would be laying out every wife-beater, child molester, purse snatcher in the land!
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OK, whats all this about attacking New Jersey???????????????
ElBatcho... What did the state ever do to you?
Besides, if it wasn't for NJ, you wouldn't have Bon Jovi, Bruce Springstein, Bruce Willis, Ed Harris, Danny DiVeto, Clarista Flockheart (even though she denies it), Jeraldo, Billy Joel, Kirsten Dunst, and many more I know I'm missing.
George Washington hosted his revolution in Morristown, NJ. The big bang theory was derived in Holmdel, NJ. Edison perfected electricity in Menlo Park (now Edison) NJ. The original Bell Labs (Alexander Graham Bell) was also in Holmdel, NJ.
You wouldn't have great day trip spots like Cape May, Del Water Gap, sunset beach (the only place on the Atlantic coast where you can watch a sunset over water and no land in sight).
Kymera- thank you for the defence in my absence form this forum...
Oh, yes, you're lucky my wife isn't on this forum. If you think a lashing form Lycia is bad? You haven't seen anything.
She'll rip up one side of you and down the other before you get a breath out.
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[quote]Originally posted by Draggar:
<strong>OK, whats all this about attacking New Jersey???????????????
What did the state ever do to you?
Besides, if it wasn't for NJ, you wouldn't have Bon Jovi, Bruce Springstein, Jeraldo, and Billy Joel.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You just answered you're own question. :D :D :p
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i'm built for comfort...i'm not built for speed.
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[quote]Originally posted by SlyVenom:
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I'll bet, you're right in the heart of Dubya the Chimp Boy's Homeland...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey! Did you mean this 'Dubya the Chimp Boy'?
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[quote]Originally posted by Sowulo:
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Hey! Did you mean this 'Dubya the Chimp Boy'?
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The One and Only :D
wonder if he's a relative of ElBatcho?
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Now those are Priceless! :D
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Physical violence is the last resort but it is an option. I dislike actual fighting though a bit of sparring every now and then is welcome.
A few things I learned through high school: Boot to the groin followed by a hard punch to the solar plexus ends just about any fight. A handful of dirt, gravel, or sand in their face may buy you a second or two to lay them out. Any form of club really helps prevent bruised/cut knuckles. And dont punch them in the teeth, aim for either side of the bottom of their jaw. Most of all, remember there is no honor in fighting, only in winning the fight.
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[quote]Originally posted by jaeger:
<strong>A few things I learned through high school: Boot to the groin followed by a hard punch to the solar plexus ends just about any fight. A handful of dirt, gravel, or sand in their face may buy you a second or two to lay them out. Any form of club really helps prevent bruised/cut knuckles. And dont punch them in the teeth, aim for either side of the bottom of their jaw. Most of all, remember there is no honor in fighting, only in winning the fight.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Wow. That is a lot a wisdom from experience there. Spoken like a true street fighter!
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[quote]Originally posted by jaeger:
<strong>Most of all, remember there is no honor in fighting, only in winning the fight.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes and no. I almost never fight, but if called upon to, I do fully intend to win the fight.
However, there is a difference between doing what is necessary to win a fight and beating the living crap out of somebody.
Just beat them. Don't do anything more. If you break a half a dozen bones in a guy's body and then piss on him while he lies bleeding, he is gonna round up a posse of guys with either subpeonas or baseball bats, and they are not gonna listen to your cries for mercy.
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So are you trying to say that pissing on someone who is down is a bad thing?
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[quote]Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
<strong>Just beat them. Don't do anything more. If you break a half a dozen bones in a guy's body and then piss on him while he lies bleeding, he is gonna round up a posse of guys with either subpeonas or baseball bats, and they are not gonna listen to your cries for mercy.</strong><hr></blockquote>
...or, you'll do 6-10....
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I fought a LOT through highschool. Maybe twice a month. These weren't little wrasslin matches either. They always contained hard punches and blood. Im also quite short, short and stocky, not fat. Bruce Lee build I guess I could say, flattering myself. ;D People think they can take me...but I prove them wrong. Ive been boxing for 6 years, been doing Korean Tae-Kwon-Do for 15- in which i have my 5th degree black belt. And Ive completed Chinese Traditional Kungfu and Kempo up to the black tier. Im pretty confident about mixing it up.
Heres my only rule. Never throw the first punch....
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[quote]Originally posted by jaeger:
<strong>Physical violence is the last resort but it is an option. I dislike actual fighting though a bit of sparring every now and then is welcome.
A few things I learned through high school: Boot to the groin followed by a hard punch to the solar plexus ends just about any fight. A handful of dirt, gravel, or sand in their face may buy you a second or two to lay them out. Any form of club really helps prevent bruised/cut knuckles. And dont punch them in the teeth, aim for either side of the bottom of their jaw. Most of all, remember there is no honor in fighting, only in winning the fight.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Boot to the groin is probably one of the worst things you can do...and i am proud to say I have NEVER done that, and NEVER will, only if it may be my last defense to live. Just a single ball tap could easily render a male completely incapable of fathering children. And although I dont want children myself, I wouldn't wish to force someone else, even a criminal, from carrying that honor. Some of the best people have been born by hard criminals.
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OK, whats all this about attacking New Jersey???????????????
I can’t speak for Batcho but as a native of PA and a convert to Philly I usually say “I’m sorry” when someone says they’re from Jooizeee and they usually understand right away.
It allows New York and PA to travel between each other on a fast turnpike instead of having to go though the mountains. But why would you want to go to PA in the first place? For the Poconos? Yeah, those 400ft vertical drops are really scary.
New Yawkas come down to PA to gawk at the Amish. They come here and prove how badly they drive and stare at the people with beards who ride in horse drawn buggies. Don’t know why – it’s a New York thing. Got me man.
If a sunami hit new jersey would take the brunt and Philly would be the new shore. Philly needs all the help it could get. The shore would be even dirtier than it is now.
Have you ever even been to Philly? Sure the government is for sh*t but the town ain’t bad and the Filthadelphia thing is out the window anymore.
Provides a safe haven for people eternaly stuck in the 80's PA provides a place for people not cool enough to live in NYC, but yet too boring to live in Jersey.
You may have something here I’m sad to say… ;)
Gave the proof to other states that you don't need mountains to become a state PA has shown that you don't need good schools, normal people or competant leadership to be a state.
And you think that New Joisee has anything resembling competent leaders? BTW – PA is not a state – we are a commonwealth.
So close to having New York but that Jersey spirt took over so they created Camden and Newark. Both cities are still nicer and cleaner than Philly.
Hell are you talkin’ bout? Have you ever been to Camden?
Also - here are a few shots I took of my beautiful city. "Don't mess with Philly!" :p
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I can’t speak for Batcho but as a native of PA and a convert to Philly I usually say “I’m sorry” when someone says they’re from Jooizeee and they usually understand right away.
What are you talking about? I'm proud to live here, in a beautiful part of the state. And besides, the only people who say "Joizee" are the uneducated idiots who don't know how to speak English.
New Yawkas come down to PA to gawk at the Amish. They come here and prove how badly they drive and stare at the people with beards who ride in horse drawn buggies. Don’t know why – it’s a New York thing. Got me man.
Its obvious PA doesn't have much else to offer, except Hershey.
Have you ever even been to Philly? Sure the government is for sh*t but the town ain’t bad and the Filthadelphia thing is out the window anymore.
You're right, its not half bad. Its all bad.
And you think that New Joisee has anything resembling competent leaders? BTW – PA is not a state – we are a commonwealth.
You and Massachussetts are the only 'commonwealths' in the countery. Glad you two are together.
Also - here are a few shots I took of my beautiful city. "Don't mess with Philly!" :p
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http://fish.dirtylittle.com/pnb.jpg
Oh! Lights! Lights! Wow. I guess the only time to get good shots of Philly is at night. You don't see all the slums, thugs, gangs, etc...
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[quote]Originally posted by Draggar:
<strong>[b]Oh! Lights! Lights! Wow. I guess the only time to get good shots of Philly is at night. You don't see all the slums, thugs, gangs, etc...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now I would have to say that those are fighting words!! *j/k*
:D :p
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lets get out the gloves. and watch some fighting. :mad: :mad:
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[quote]Originally posted by Draggar:
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You and Massachussetts are the only 'commonwealths' in the countery. Glad you two are together.
Oh! Lights! Lights! Wow. I guess the only time to get good shots of Philly is at night. You don't see all the slums, thugs, gangs, etc...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah? Come ta Philly mothaf.....
People are very nice here and the town is beautiful in the day as well.
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[quote]Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
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Yeah? Come ta Philly mothaf.....
People are very nice here and the town is beautiful in the day as well.
http://fish.dirtylittle.com/phil.jpg</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know about that, all the trees are blocking the lower levels... :p :p
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[quote]Originally posted by snooper2:
<strong>lets get out the gloves. and watch some fighting. :mad: :mad: </strong><hr></blockquote>
ding ding ding... Round 1!
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All them northern yankee cities are just cesspools of perversion and poverty.
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[quote]Originally posted by Draggar:
<strong>
I don't know about that, all the trees are blocking the lower levels... :p :p </strong><hr></blockquote>Hmmmmmm lets see some pictures of Newark and Camden...
I have only been in the US for 15 years and spent most of my time in Philly, yes some cities are nicer and the people are more friendly but Philly is my home and the people are the salt of the earth.
Best things about Jersey are
1) Great Adventure
2) New Jersey Turnpike
3) Jug Handles and trafic circles
4) A mall on every coner
5) 24 hour drinking at AC
I could list more but you get the point. It's between PA an NY and is Flanked by NYC and Philly, I am sure Jersey is a nice place to live but lets face it if you use the toll bridges you have to Pay to get into PA any fool can get into New jersey for free.
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[quote]Originally posted by Draggar:
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I don't know about that, all the trees are blocking the lower levels... :p :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'll get you some pics later -I'm in center city right now.
BTW - Post any pic of Camden and there will probably be something resembling a bomb crater. Or, perhaps you could show one of the many toxic waste sites in you beautiful state. :p
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[quote]Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
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I'll get you some pics later -I'm in center city right now.
BTW - Post any pic of Camden and there will probably be something resembling a bomb crater. Or, perhaps you could show one of the many toxic waste sites in you beautiful state. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>ROTFFLMMAO :lol: Hey isn't Camden the setting for Johns Carpenters next film Escape from the armpit of the world. A note to all, if you want to know what the westback in Israle is like just go to Camden for the day. I know guys in north Philly who are scared to go into Camden after dark.
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Yeah Camden is pretty bad. They are trying so hard to restore it but.............
And for someone in the Midwest downing the east for one thing that is easy to do not only far away but over a keyboard. I know a few people that lived in Texas but then they got real jobs and came east for real money. BTW-For run down they seem to like the east coast just fine.
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[quote]Originally posted by Wyckyd1:
<strong>Yeah Camden is pretty bad. They are trying so hard to restore it but.............
And for someone in the Midwest downing the east for one thing that is easy to do not only far away but over a keyboard. I know a few people that lived in Texas but then they got real jobs and came east for real money. BTW-For run down they seem to like the east coast just fine.</strong><hr></blockquote>My parents lived in Dallas for a while and loved it, I liked it too, I lived in San diago also and it was very nice but Philly just has a certain charm and character about it which make it Philly, were not as hard as new yorkers and not as soft as southerners. There's a line in counting crows song round here which discribes philly to a tee,
"Round here we talk like lions but we sacrifice like lambs"
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[quote]Originally posted by cleetus:
<strong>All them northern yankee cities are just cesspools of perversion and poverty.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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[quote]Originally posted by ElBatcho:
<strong>Hmmmmmm lets see some pictures of Newark and Camden...
Best things about Jersey are
1) Great Adventure
2) New Jersey Turnpike
3) Jug Handles and trafic circles
4) A mall on every coner
5) 24 hour drinking at AC
lets face it if you use the toll bridges you have to Pay to get into PA any fool can get into New jersey for free.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not the one who started this with an unprovoked attack on NJ. I have nothing to prove, I'm just defending it now.
And, if you think those are the best that NJ has to offer, then you've never met Kevin Smith, gone to Red Bank, Cape May, Del Water Gap, gone to a convert in the arts center, Liberty Science Center, Statue of Liberty (and she IS in NJ), Liberty Park.
Would you like me to continue?
And as for the fools getting into NJ for free, its apparent they're trying to get aay from the other fools.
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[quote]Originally posted by ElBatcho:
<strong>ROTFFLMMAO :lol: Hey isn't Camden the setting for Johns Carpenters next film Escape from the armpit of the world. A note to all, if you want to know what the westback in Israle is like just go to Camden for the day. I know guys in north Philly who are scared to go into Camden after dark.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I once went to Camden by accident with an old GF (you know how easy it is to get trapped on that bridge by accident - is that the ben franlin bridge???). She got on the floor and freaked out when I started stopping for stop signs. At one point trying to get back to Philly she actually said "I don't want to die in Camden!". Personally I thought she was overreacting.
Oh, btw Batcho - there are some really nice parts of North Philly - it's just parts that are bad (just like anywhere). I know people who think nothing of walking at night in their neighborhoods and others who have had houses they own firebombed with illegal tenants (crackheads) living inside. So yeah there are some really bad parts.
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[quote]Originally posted by SlyVenom:
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Never, the south will rise again
j/k Actually, the brief visits I had in both states were rather nice. Not being from the area I actually have no viable input to the argument at all. Just trying to make my day go by, WHY WON'T THE CLOCK MOVE!!!
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[quote]Originally posted by cleetus:
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Never, the south will rise again!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Only until their Viagra runs out... :D :D :D
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[quote]Originally posted by cleetus:
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Never, the south will rise again
j/k Actually, the brief visits I had in both states were rather nice. Not being from the area I actually have no viable input to the argument at all. Just trying to make my day go by, WHY WON'T THE CLOCK MOVE!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
heh heh, it's all good, as much as I bag on the south, LA has some mighty fine food, and I think I could handle moving there if I moved to the south.. :D
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[quote]Originally posted by Wayward Clam:
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Only until their Viagra runs out... :D :D :D </strong><hr></blockquote>
heh heh,
btw nice sig Clam :D :D :p
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[quote] I once went to Camden by accident with an old GF (you know how easy it is to get trapped on that bridge by accident - is that the ben franlin bridge???). <hr></blockquote>
Yeah that is Ben Franklin near the field. You never been to the E Center? Well I mean tweeter center? It's funny because after you park it is all run down buildings during your walk. Fortunatly it is more industrial run down rather than ghetto run down, but ghetto run down is just one wrong turn, been there done that.
When my bro brought his wife down (she is from Mass/NH) you know one of the first tours I had to take her was of Camden. She was a little uncomfortable to say the least. Atleast I was nice and took her during the day time, not like that matters much.
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[quote]Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
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BTW - Post any pic of Camden and there will probably be something resembling a bomb crater. Or, perhaps you could show one of the many toxic waste sites in you beautiful state. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
Like I said, I'm not the one who did an unprovoked attack. I have nothing to prove.
And, as for Camden being a dump, I'll admit that its not pretty, but Philly is also a dump. But both cities have good parts of them to go with the bad.
Toxic waste sites? Fine. I'll take that in. Since most of it isn't form NJ, its fomr the power plants that supply NYC and Philly...
The debat of "My state is better than your's" is about as futile as anything. Every state in this country has wonderful sites and sounds, along with bad egg-neighborhoods. Its everywhere.
Sure, PA has the drows of society living in the cities such as Philly and Pittsburgh, but also has beautiful areas.
The attacks on NJ concidering that the whole state is like areas such as Camden, Newark, and AC just show how uneducated some people can be.
I lived in a small town, of about 1000 people (mostly fishing), and I loved it. I now live in a town of about 85,000 people, and still love it.
Same goes with large cities as Philly, NYC, Dallas, anywhere. There are good parts and bad parts. If you focus on the bad parts, then whats the point of trying to learn about it? Its a very closed minded thing to do.
If anyone else here would like to place a verbal attack on the state of New Jersey or its people, I will fully invite you to come here for a weekend, and I can show you why New Jersey is called "The Garden State". We'll hit Liberty State Park, then work our way down the sore to Sandy Hook and the old military bast there, then we'll drive south to Red Bank and Point Pleasant and finish in Cape May.
If you don't like the ocean, we'll go up to the Chester Area, Del water gap down the Del river.
Food? We'll find anything and everything you like. Sushi? Ethiopain? Chinese? Lebaniese? Vietnamese? Anyhting.
Any takers?
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[quote]Originally posted by Wyckyd1:
<strong>When my bro brought his wife down (she is from Mass/NH) you know one of the first tours I had to take her was of Camden. She was a little uncomfortable to say the least. Atleast I was nice and took her during the day time, not like that matters much.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What part of NH/Mass?
Like I said, take her elsewhere. If you're near Camden, take the AC expressway to the GS aprkway, head south to Cape May. There is a great Zoo there, too.
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[quote]Originally posted by SlyVenom:
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heh heh,
btw nice sig Clam :D :D :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
Right back atcha, Sly! ;) :D
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[quote]What part of NH/Mass?
Like I said, take her elsewhere. If you're near Camden, take the AC expressway to the GS aprkway, head south to Cape May. There is a great Zoo there, too.
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Londenderry. I know where to take them, my bro is from here anyway. It was sort of a goof I took her there.
Believe me I know South Jersey well, born and raised; so I know the popular nice spots and the not so popular. The thing esp. about the not-so-popular you better like mosquitoes, green heads and/or strawberry flies (aka deer flies) and insect repellant does not work ;) .