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The point to disabling it in Bios setup is to see if any of your problems are solved. But, your stating that it rarely is the error, well....Quote:
Originally Posted by Qerr
Listen, you've got mucho problems seemingly. Have you tried a repair install, or better yet. saving any vital data and formatting? A squeeky clean install with problems will tell us a lot. Is this still under warranty?
Yes tried repair install, didnt help, I will try to do a clean install this weekend, but first I need to ereas, about 10-20gb of files :\
btw if I do the clean install will it solve any IRQ problems?
To user: Qerr, Mad Dad and whoisKeel
Here is what you need to fix your problem, which we all hope, sees these articles.
When you install Microsoft Windows XP, you may receive a STOP error message similar to one of the following during Setup:
STOP 0x0000008e or STOP 0x00000050 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA sees this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=315335
834450 - "Stop 0x0000008E" error message in Win32k.sys when you use the keyboard to access a program menu in Windows XP Fixes an issue in Windows XP where, if you use the keyboard to access a program menu, you may receive a Stop error message. Requires that you install Windows XP Service Pack 1 and a hotfix to resolve the problem.
http://search.microsoft.com/search/r...sys+windows+xp
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Qerr 04-06-2004, 08:40 AM
0x0000008E win32k.sys Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area 0x00000050 navex15.sys
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whoisKeel Yesterday, 05:46 PM 5-4-04
0x50 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA problem caused by win32k.sys
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Mad Dad 04-26-2004, 06:04 AM
Memory Address 0xE8000000-0xE9FFFFFF Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Processor to AGP Controller - 2561 Memory Address 0xE8000000-0xE9FFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600SE
http://www.bev.me.uk/wd/edited10a.gif
Now, where were we?
I was going to try the Nvidia Nforce2 SPP chipset patch, but I need to know where I can get it.
ok, I installed that patch about 5 hours ago, but I still get the BSoDs, this is the latest one:
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
stop: 0x0000004E (0x00000099, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
this is for 2k, but xp is the same something has been very very screwed over.
I have run checks on the memory and hdd(they where fine), so I'm wondering are there utilitys that can check the mother board and the gfx card?
ps. that microsoft link didnt tell me much :\
Qerr you have formatted and reinstalled... you got these errors. There is nothing for it now but to test stuff by putting it in another machine. This could be as simple as a bad ide cable.... ram timings not set right, video card ram going bye bye.
You can no longer afford to be lazy about this.
I can test the video card tomorrow by pulling it out and put in my old one, if I can find it. but mother board? that migth be harder :\ I will see if I can find a way to test it. btw do I still need to check the hdd and memory in this way?
hdd - change the cables for known good ones. ram you have already run memtest86 - how long for?
Passed 4 tests, that would be altest 1 hour on the 256mb, 1,5hours on the 512mb and when both was in it was about 2-3 hours I think.
There are 7 tests in total - suggest you run it till all 7 are complete.
Is it ok to have both of the memsticks in at the same time or do I need to do one and then the other?
You will need to do one, then the other and then BOTH together, yes 3 times. This is to ensure one stick is not mismatching with the other and causing your problems.
TO: Qerr
When NooNoo comes online and see if he agrees normally I don't updated the bios and unless there is a problem, however in your case you have many issues at hand.
With today’s new procedures of BIOS life updates online it is relevantly easy.
Caution: Anywhere in the update procedures you don’t understand, this reply back to this board, do not make a choice on your own and write down any error code if any.
• Online update BIOS/Driver/Firmware/Utility.
• Live Monitor auto-detects and suggests the latest BIOS/Driver/Utilities information.
• AP Version: 3.58 (2004/04/08) File size 3.295MB
DOWNLOAD THIS AND INSTALL IT
http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...pdate358B1.exe
K7N2 Delta-L(MS-6570-020)
Version= v.5.7
Size= 273 kb
Platform= AMD
BIOS= Award BIOS
BIOS Date= 4/6/2004
Counter= 593
This ver (5.7) will fix all the below:
1. This is Award BIOS release.
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Adds for Support Write ROMSIP use 4K in 2M/16,8,8,32 ROM.
- Adds for Support Write ROMSIP use 4K in 4M/64K ROM.
- Reduces much time to update ROMSIP with 4M flash bios.
- Verifies flash data after romsip update and will update data again if flash data error occurs
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ver 5.6 11/13/2003
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Supports Nvidia System Utility.
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ver 5.2 6/6/2003
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Shows current systems memory channel information
- Updates DDR400 timing settings
- Removes "Reset Configuration Data" intem in the BIOS setup as chipset does not support it
Note: This BIOS cannot be used on K7N2 Delta-ILSR(MS-6570-030).
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DATE= 2003-9-29 VGA cards UPDATE
Nvidia standard driver for MSI VGA cards.
Nvidia Driver 45.32 for Win2000/XP/Server2003
http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...e/45.32_XP.exe
Yes indeedy, Querr has a multitude of problems. And, if the Bios has not been updated as of yet, then YES, do it! Then remove everything but the video card and ONE module of ram. And run it for awhile.
Geesh, this one has been going on for too long, and has caused arguments amongst nomally civil "tech helpers" . Sometimes a motherboard IS just bad!!! So, since the Bios update has seemingly not been tried, and since this seems to be where ALL the problems have been found to be (after all the testing of the hdd and ram), maybe, just maybe: that is the problem!!!
So, how about a complete update as to what you have done so far, what you have tested: sort of a summary Querr!
Let's get to the bottom of this. And no, if there were a hardware or software all encompassing test for motherboards, that would make all of our jobs sooo much easier: but there ISN"T! It is all a system of troubleshooting steps right now, and the one who invents such a truly reliable device will be rich, indeed.
PS
wmicro: NooNoo is a woman, and our forum moderator.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
Well it looks like it might be the ram after all :\
Just ran the memtest on the 512mb stick and it came up with one error, here it is:
tst:5 pass:18 failing address:00016f045f0 - 367.2mb good:00000200
bad:00000201 err-bits:00000001 count:1 chan:
Had to run the test for about 6hours or so, still running it at the moment :)
one fail is all it takes...
Ok, the 512mb stick is no longer in, but I still got a BSoD, here it is:
A wait operation, attach process, or yield was attempted from a DPC routine.
stop: 0x000000B8 (0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
Just had another one:
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_EQUAL_OR_LESS
stop: 0x000000D1 (0x00280000, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x00280000)
My pc also reboots without me telling it to do so (still have it to give me a blue screen when an error accours).
Just had a nother BSoD
stop: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0xBF849C48, 0xF6D810C4, 0x00000000)
win32k.sys - address BF849C48 base at BF800000
Just had this one aswell.
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR EQUAL
stop: 0x000000D1 (0x00000014, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0xF97C5253)
usbport.sys - address F97C5253 base at F97AB000, datestamp 3f04cf17
try reapplying service pack1 for the usbport.sys error.
Otherwise you are looking at a driver conflict or irq conflct.
here is how to start troubleshooting the 0xD1 messages
the 0x8E message is also sp1 related
this registry fix needs to be checked for the 0x000000B8 - yes I know it says 2000, but check the registry anyway.
In this HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Clusnet\Start
I'm only able to com to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\
I'm unable to find clusnet there.
How do I reinstall sp1?
download it and double click it.
https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Geesh, I just read this whole thing again, and we are back to reapplying service packs???? We've formated and reinstalled, tested ram and removed a seemingly bad modul. No cards in pc except for video? And STILL all these problems?
Let's go back a couple of days:
Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
When I first got thise BSoDs I first did a repair install of winxp, didnt work.
I then did a clean install, didnt work, I then did some research and I eventualy found this board. Since I got here I have tested the HDD, no errors, then the ram, where there was an error and the bad ram stick have been removed.
Still got the error. Some where in this time period I removed the sound card and the ethernett card I had in my pc.
I also got another BSoD.
PAGE_FOULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
STOP: 0x00000050 (0x89518CE4, 0x00000001, 0xF98C7503, 0x00000000)
NTFS.SYS - address F98C7503 base at F98A4000
well here is another update from me. last weekend I reinstalled windows, since so many of you said it was faulty driver or somthing like that. Now that didnt work, I could have upto 5 BSoDS during one hours, so I decided to change the gfx card, now I use an old ati radeon 7500. I installed it thursday night, and since then I have only had 2-3 BSoDs, but now I got some other problems.
The first problem is that the pc reboots with out be telling it( I have changed it so that is should show blue screen when there is a serius errror)
The secon is after the sceen has been turned off/gone to saving modus. When I then turn the screen back on it is black, I have tryed to turn of the back on the screen but that doesnt work and pushing the power button (for a very short time that is) in just turns the pc off. I have been told that the last problem is becouse the bios/windows is sett to turn the hdds of after a while but none of thise settings are on.
Have you replaced the powersupply unit in the case?
No I have not
As the rest of the people in this thread, I've been getting the 0x8E errors. I deleted the partition currently on the HDD and formatted + installed XP integrated with SP1. For some reason, which I find odd because it has never done this before, XP automatically detects everything and installs drivers for everything. I'm sure it may be the drivers and I have no clue why it is installing everything to begin with. Some of the errors I get are 0x0000008E(0xC0000005, 0xBF87BDC6, 0xF3708BF0F, 0x00000000). Like I said, its a FRESH installed copy of XP and when I try to do something, I get this error. Anyone help?
Ok... This only applies to people who have Norton Antivirus installed.
http://service1.symantec.com/support...&osv=&osv_lvl=
Try that and see how it goes.
LJ
Welcome to Windrivers LJP
Your link comes up dead... can you describe the navigation or provide the document number?
I found it in that lovely link they provided you with...
Here is the much shorter printable version http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...614533906?Open
Thanks hehe... i was trying to be smart and parse the url with my own description.
Try it now, so much for the fancy stuff.
LJ
Welcome to Windrivers chingghooeeQuote:
Originally Posted by chingchooee
If you have norton antivirus, refer to the post above.
Otherwise we need ALOT more information about your machine.
If this happened during setup then read here
If not, test your ram extensively anyway
Other known suspects are network cards - UNINSTALL from Device Mangler FIRST!! the remove the card or if onboard disable and see if that improves things