LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
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"Zip your fly and you won't die."
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
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"Zip your fly and you won't die."
You have no clue how much rape and cultural differences there are do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
If they are killing and raping each other, why do they call it "cultural" ? I could have sworn that culture had an entirely different meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
1. The growing of microorganisms, tissue cells, or other living matter in a specially prepared nutrient medium.Quote:
Originally Posted by jitBob
2. Such a growth or colony, as of bacteria.
I don't know. Sounds about right.
So what your saying is that we should tell them not to have sex.... Well we know how well that works with teens and young adults..
Whatever was being done before doesn't seem to have been working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
CultureQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
1. Tillage (tilled land)
2. The training or or refining of the intellectual or behavioral faculities
3. Care given to the growth and developement of plants and animals
4. The propagation of bacteria, as for scientific use
5. Civilization
Oooooooh. Rainbooooows. Oh, I like those, those are cool.
Ain't no such thing as a free lunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Three paths to a solution:
1: Find a cure - Not sodding likely, we haven't managed to cure a virus yet, the immune system has to do that.
2: Prevent infection - The most likely solution. Condoms can help and vaccines are being worked on. This approach relies heavily on sex education that hasn't worked in the past ten years. As cruel as it sounds, the problem with Africans not integrating scientific facts in their approach to AIDS and HIV will eventually solve itself. The educated will live and breed, the uneducated will die.
3: Speed it up - Bad sci-fi crap. Make it kill faster, so carriers can't transmit it.
I think you can tell where I place my bets. I think we should be spending the majority of the money earmarked for the subject on education and a vaccine. Sorry for the poor bastards that already have it, but they have a death sentence anyways, and there isn't a whole helluva lot we are likely to be able to do about it for quite a while. I look at Africa as a continent of triage, we need to spend our money and time where it will do the most good.
techs is that you ? https://forums.windrivers.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
did ya'll change your name ?
Driver why dont you get your government to match the amount that Bush has promised then decide to use it all on condoms.
Oh wait. How much was it that Canada promised?
No he's not me. If he had been me he would have posted this link:Quote:
Originally Posted by GrandDad
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...pulation_fund/
Which shows the Bushies are still advocating:
"US officials emphasized abstinence as an important way to combat AIDS"
And we all know how well abstinence is working here in the US.
Nothing is working. That's the point of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
I definitely agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
How do you explain abstinence to a husband and wife?
I thought they were the only people you didn't need to explain it to.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
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Closed husband/wife relationships aren't contributing to the AIDS epidemic.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Errrr - anal sex is considered by many in Africa as a 'normal' method of contraception ! Also visiting a prostitute when the 'moons up' or during pregnanacy are widely accepted - add that to total ignorance & ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
Also without stupid 'copyright' laws the Africans could manufacture all the anti-retroviral drugs they needed to stop or at least slow the process by ensuring pregnant women get them routinely ..Aids in Africa
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..The dispensary here is keeping its own supply of Nevirapine. I'm bringing it in to give it to them. We have to have good security because this is going to be popular stuff. You give the Nevirapine to women in labour, and then three drops are given to the baby after birth, and that's it! One tablet for the mother, three drops for the baby, end of story! You can save half the babies that would have been born with HIV..
Jaeger, it is not often that you are totally wrong, but this is one occasion that I shall bookmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
Uhm, I did say closed. Worst case scenario: One partner comes into the marriage with AIDS and gives it to the other. They then conceive. With a closed marriage, you have two definite virals and one possible viral. That is not enough to keep an epidemic going as that path of infection should end with either the parents or the child. I assumed we were refering to primarily the sexual transmission in this discussion. Are you refering to the vulnerability to bad needle habits in many areas of Africa, namely reusing the same needle on many people to administer medicines? Or are you refering to inadequate testing to discover infections?Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
I'm judging based on the best way to stop the epidemic, not on preventing individual infections. Closed husband/wife relationships, even if they result in infected children, do not spread the virus far enough and fast enough to compete with other vectors, such as promiscuity, superstition, and bad needle habits.
I see where I made a mistake. Instead of "aren't contributing" I should have said "aren't contributing in a statistically critical way." The latter is what I meant.
Alot of the other countries providing financial and medical support in this disagree with you and the US government.
What is really sad is a dog or a cat in America gets better health care than the average African.
But how does what jaeger is saying not make sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Was away for the weekend. Glad to see this sparked some serious discussion. I found this on the UN Population Fund website http://www.unfpa.org/africa/hivaids.htm
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No single factor, biological or behavioural, determines the spread of HIV infection. Most HIV transmission in sub-Saharan Africa occurs through sexual intercourse, with unsafe blood transfusions and unsafe injections accounting for a small fraction.
While sexual behaviour is the most important factor influencing the spread of HIV in Africa, that behaviour varies greatly across cultures, age groups, socioeconomic class, and gender. Sexual behaviour is itself influenced by a host of factors, ranging from the daily and pragmatic (such as economic and social circumstance), to the complex and abstract (such as culture).
For example, higher numbers of sexual partners has consistently been found to be associated with greater likelihood of HIV infection, but the chances of individuals engaging with commercial sex workers, and thus having more partners, is clearly enhanced when large numbers of single, migrant men live together. These communities of single, male migrants (such as those in the mining communities of southern Africa, for example) have been established as a result of a complex interplay of economics and history. And this is only one example. Forced migration due to war, long-term travel along transit routes for commercial reasons, and the lack of secure livelihoods are other factors.
The interplay of multiple factors obscures causal linkages and prevents categorical conclusions. A study in four African cities (Cotonou, Kisumu, Ndola and Yaoundé) revealed that the most common behavioural and biological factors in those cities with the highest HIV prevalence were: young age at women’s first sexual intercourse; young age at first marriage; age difference between spouses; the presence of HSV-2 infection and trichomoniasis (a sexually transmitted infection); and lack of male circumcision. There is substantial evidence that sexually transmitted infections enhance the risk of sexual transmission of HIV, while other analyses suggest that male circumcision may be associated with reduced risk of transmission.
Young women have consistently been found to have higher prevalence rates of HIV infection than men of the same age group. The assumption that this results from women having sex with older men suggests a possible inter-generational driver of the infection from men to women.
Young women are also physiologically more susceptible to sexually transmitted infections than young men. For instance, in Kisumu, Kenya, in 1998, the prevalence of HIV infection among women aged 15–19 was 23%; among young men the same age, it was 3.5%. Sociocultural systems in many cases also limit women’s control over their sexual lives.
In addition, a large share of sub-Saharan Africa’s population is young and, therefore, more likely to be sexually active. This helps explain the higher incidence of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.
Where these facilitating factors are absent, HIV infection can remain ‘hidden’ for many years. In the presence of social, socioeconomic and biological factors that facilitate spread, however, the epidemic may grow at a rapid rate. While the complex interplay of factors makes it difficult to estimate the likely growth of the epidemic, evidence from the past decade shows that HIV can spread rapidly and widely from very low general seroprevalence levels. All countries with risk factors must employ the range of policies and programmes available (detailed throughout this report) so as to avoid a high-prevalence epidemic.
Interesting table re: funding sources. http://www.unfpa.org/africa/funding.htm
Looks like 11% of the contributions in 2001 came from Billy Boy. Got to give credit where it is do.
Indeed. Whatever his motive or reasons (I believe he actually does want to do good with that money) he does use that money for some really great things.Quote:
Originally Posted by hudsonsmith
And you wonder why people were 'picking on you' during our discussion about political theads?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Some people never learn....:sad: