It could be that some ignorant people are just jealous and wonder why they can't have things handed to them and not work hard for what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
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It could be that some ignorant people are just jealous and wonder why they can't have things handed to them and not work hard for what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
It makes sense though when you think about the breeding that went on during the time of slaves. I don't put too much faith in that though when you consider that any advantages from that would probably have been undone after a few generations. A sad reminder of some of the horrible things in our countries past.Quote:
Originally Posted by hudsonsmith
Yes, I have heard that too. That Africans who were kidnapped and brought to America were chosen for their physical strength. And that as slaves the survivors were the strongest and they passed on this trait.Quote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
I honestly don't know.
That's the twisted part...I love being bashed... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Are there points being made in this thread? Weird,.. I haven't found any so far. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Ok, so you are saying that Black people genetically aren't faster, more agile, and don’t typically excel far past other races in almost every physical challenge or contest? That’s a different argument then intelligence in the Jewish community…first of all, the big difference is race, as opposed to cultural/religion. But if you wish to let it slid I will let it go…Quote:
Originally Posted by hudsonsmith
But physical attributes and intellectuality are two completely different things. Natural selection wasn’t designed to justify or explain intelligence, only physical attributes as they evolve over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
Maybe that’s where you are losing my respect with all of this. You are looking for a scientific reasons why Jews are smart, when you should be looking for a social reason why Jews are depicted in the way that you described, a history lesson of sorts. That would have made a far more honest debate. As it stands, your topic sucks on the merits of your speculation, therefore it only stands to reason you should get such hostility.
I hope I just made one above...Quote:
Originally Posted by WebHead
Jimmy "the Greek" SnyderQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
IMO, the title of the thread just already sets up a superiority complex that asks if one race is smarter than the "average" human.
"Are Jewish people smarter than average?"
So what if people think that Jewish people are smarter? It's better than having your race/religion/state stereotyped as one of the more "stupid" or "lazy" ones.
For instance, when you stereotyped us Texans as (paraphrasing) "stupid Texans who don't produce any scholars or philosophers" from one of your previous threads. This thread just adds fuel to the fire that you are a condescending jerk.
Here's the way I see it. People of a particular culture, race, religion (whatever) generally spend a lot of time with people of that same culture, race, religion (whatever). They are our families. They are the ones who teach us growing up, who were taught by the parents and so on all the way up. Historically people have tried to start their own families with others who are very similar to them. Thus, you have the same values, gentetic attributes, beliefs (whatever) being carried down through the generations. This is where "stereotypes" come from. Cultures that have been labled with these "stereotypes" generally will boast about the good ones and denounce the bad ones.
Example: I am of French decent. The French have the stereotypes of being snobby, whiney, bitchy little weaklings. I fit into all of those stereotypes pretty well. They also tend to be very creative and artistic. I'm not that artistic, but I would definitely consider myself creative.
Not everyone will fit into all parts of their "stereotype" and some won't fit any. With the way the world is now, a lot of these cultures are breeding to other cultures. The stereotypes will start to blur and we'll all turn into greyling visitors abducting people from their planets so we can shove probes up their a**es. We just need to be patient and survive until then. :thumbs:
Wait a minute, I never said anything about slave breeding techniques...that was meatwad, so go back and quote him if you want to take that platform.Quote:
Originally Posted by hudsonsmith
All that I am saying is that it's obvious when you look at athletes today, blacks dominate every sport except hockey. I don't know why that is, but it's a statistical certainty...prove that wrong in some way...
I believe its to do with having a lighter skeletal bone structure which may give an advantage in some sports much the same as saying many Asians are naturally shorter than Europeans and may excel where a shorter frame has its advantages.
What about weightlifting or wrestling or swimming,etc ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Oh Jesus, I'm gonna get flamed for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
One reason is that Hockey is one of the most expensive sports to play (sticks, pads, helmets, skates etc.). Now so is football, but football's popularity means that it tends to get more funding in schools and special programs so the players have less of a financial burden to play.
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Originally Posted by Ya_know
Well that's easy. In order to play hockey you first must plunk down about 2000 dollars for gear. Once you've done that, fine 10 other people who are capable of doing the same thing and then find a sheet of ice that is suitable to play on. Same thing applies for golf.
What does it take in order for a kid to play basketball or football? A 5 dollar ball and a field or court which are all easily found in any ghetto.
beg to differ about the golf. You can go to a public course and rent clubs and play 18 for less than $40.Quote:
Originally Posted by imaeditedbysowulo
I don't consider any of those sports... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by edball
That would only get you one game in. It would add up if you played enough to develop any skill. Also, $40 is a lot to most kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by amyb
Yeah, but if you go twice a week that $4160 a year...times 10 years to get proficient...well, you do the math! Don't forget the ugly cloths. But to play b-ball or f-ball…again, cheep!Quote:
Originally Posted by amyb
Sorry, I forgot they only play LaCrosse and Polo where you come from. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You can wear regular clothes and there are also practice ranges and you can hit a basket of balls for $5! Can't do math right now..bad cold..can't breath much less do calculations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Blaa blaa blaa
does it realy matter?
Crap like this is what started WWII and got guys like Hitler into power. some group gets high on their horse, everyone else gets pissed of and a dip **** gets elected.
If we disregard all of this stuffas BS everyone is happy, no stereotypes, no raceisim, no fights, no war. maby this is what is wrong with the USA they did not learn these facts in WWII and its shy they persist in pushing there ways on every one else.
Im sure there would be a lot less terrorists if we just left everyone alone.
By the way, now that the media is calling everyone that is anti-bush a terrorist Im prowd to call my self a terroist. As seen on CNN last night when enviromentatilists ("eco-terrorists") burned sum hummers in war ("anti-bush")and enviromental protest. Now i will never get let into the USA and good ridance!
I think you forgot no bigotry...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by RejectionMan
What are you talking about? Did that make sense to anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by RejectionMan
No, it doesn't. Glad I'm not the only oneQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
Politics and racism in one thread.........:(
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Originally Posted by RejectionMan
We don't like your kind...Canadian Smartmouth's who base their point on 12 month old media, and think they have all the facts about the US...
I don't know what you're trying to say, but it doesn't make any sense...either that or the media that you watch is fouled up, thus your mind is clouded.
Maybe if he laid off the Molsons at breakfast it would make more sense.
No you wouldn't.Quote:
Im sure there would be a lot less terrorists if we just left everyone alone
Terrorists are the people who disagree with your way of life what you do,where you go,your ethics,your religion or even who you want in office no matter what you do you cant please them.
They take reasonable lawful protest beyond the extreme and into violence,extortion and murder so giving in to terrorism is the same as giving away your way of life and all those you love to live the whim of a dictatorship who could never win by fair lawful means if they tried because of their extreme views which are shared by only a handful of people and not the vast majority of rest of the law abiding human race.
What im tryin to say is you goys are all goin on about his or that and these people are better at this than these guys. eg, african americans casue you can play basketball just about any ware for cheap vs hockey.
Im saying does it matter? (its all blaa blaa blaa people trying ot stir up other people) And if we just ignore/disregard all this stuff wouldn't the world be better for it? Maby im still back on page 2 of this thread but I think this might be part of the answer that Michael Moore was questioning us with in Bowling for columbine, what is wrong with america? Maby a lack of understanding for all these "groups" resulting in foregien policys and domestic "group" actions or thoughts that just spawn more of the same attitudes. Resulting in the problems that the US is faced with today.
eg. if i beat up a kid for his lunch money (read in oil) cause he has lots, wont his buddys get mad at me and try to take it back (said terrorists). Then wont i get mad at them and take their lunch money (stomp on countrys harboring said terrorists). Do this enough and the original kid loses it and shoots up the school? (read in world) or some one else (read in N.Korea) that wants to prevent it from happening to them.
as to my news source: Last Night CNN (yes we get american TV on cable here in Canada!) as to your comments about last year, after reading news rather than watching it I see that this has been going on for some time, but the war protests part = anti-bush = terrorist is a different angle of the same thing.
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Originally Posted by RejectionMan
Still not following you.
RE: archer
You have already done that. Armed gaurds at finacial instidutions, check points when entering Washington DC. and now armed personel at the ballot boxes. mean while theives are robing banks while all this other security is going on during the campain.
your way of life has changed, in fact its starting to look like the old USSR where you need your papers to move about the city.
I suppose that you are right in that giving into them now would mean ther victory and that they would never stop. But dosent some one have to take initative to try and bring closure to such a fight, or jsut let it boil on untill you end up like Yugoslavia the fine product of over 600 years of festering, and the triger point of both world wars.
Maby it would have been better to not have pissed in there "pool" (domestic policy) in the firstplace? something to take up with your political leaders
Ok, anyone that quotes Moore with a straight face has to have been riding the short bus to school. In case you don't know American slang, the retarded kids rode the short bus.
You want to know what's wrong with America, think about this first: We are the greatest country in the world. Where else can you find the immense diversity within the borders of a single country and still manage to not kill one or the other group, and actually prosper into the best? Look at the middle east, African, Viet Nam and Korea...The Slovakian countries, Germany back in the day...just to name a few, all of these countries have genocide in their recent history (recent as in within the last 60 years, some as current as this week) have you ever heard of such atrocities here in the states??? Never. We are one of the most civilized and freest societies of the entire globe!
So before you go paraphrasing one of the fattest rich slobs who capitalized, or better yet exploited, from our freedoms to make his millions, take a closer look at the world you live in and realize the US IS A BETTER PLACE than the rest of the world!!!
Who pissed in who's pool on 9/11/2001?Quote:
Originally Posted by RejectionMan
That's an easy one... :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by jitBob
And what makes the United States the greatest nation.......the right to bitch about what holds us back from being even better
Don't be so naive adding security measures does not dilute domestic security in the slightest it only enforces it.Besides which not all security organizations are under central control i.e. governmental so their distribution is not directly controlled by political policy or dictate unlike some would have us believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by RejectionMan
Where are you coming from the cultures where/are so radically different and the political state of one could never be measured against the other.The armed guard you see at the airport is to ensure your freedom not enforce your slavery so don't try confusing the two.Quote:
your way of life has changed, in fact its starting to look like the old USSR where you need your papers to move about the city.
Thats what politicians are for love or hate them a political solution is usually the only answer where both sides concede some ground for the common good.This is where terrorists differ with them there is no common ground its one way or no wayQuote:
I suppose that you are right in that giving into them now would mean their victory and that they would never stop. But doesn't some one have to take initiative to try and bring closure to such a fight
If you neighbor starts throwing trash on your lawn how long are you going to clear it up before you finally get round to dealing with the root of the problem?Quote:
Maby it would have been better to not have pissed in there "pool" (domestic policy) in the firstplace? something to take up with your political leaders
there is the attitude that is making all non americans hate you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
all of these contrys sufferd through the same social problems that the US is faccing now and reacted the same way. Persicute other groups, label them and ultimately lets just get rid of them.. It hasent happend yet, but they way things are going the gulag is not to far in off. Your turn to join this select group of ****rys may be coming if domestic attitudes contiue as they are. Suspision breed paranoia paranoid breeds susspision and eventualy everyone is suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
um.. the US when they trained Osama to be a CIA guy and kill russians to keep them out of afganistan with out getting your hands dirty. good that it avoided the end of the cold war with nucular war, bad in that it killed many afgans and that US support ended after the russians desided it wasent worth it. a little extra aid may have gone along way to limit public support for osamas group after the russians left. besides these people have been fighting each other for hundreds of years over little more than sand, by getting involved all we have done is unite them against us. The brits learned this during the crusades (well maby not Tony Blair..).Quote:
Originally Posted by jitBob
Re: Archer
Armed guards I can see, but machingun toting body armored personell. come on dont tell me it was like that before 9/11?
checking your ID when you enter a city? well maby for a drinking and driving crack down, but just to make sure that your a citizen, or are authoriized to use the road system?
Searches when you enter a building? that only happens at the secuity check point at the air port.
things weren't always like this in the US. Things havent changed in Canada, the only reason youl get searched here is if you go to the airport, enter a secure government facility, or do something stupid to make the cops think your packing something.