AMD 64 and Memory

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Originally Posted by Radical Dreamer

Dual channel IS a reason, although it may not provide the same performance that say Super Ultra Ballistix XMS PC 56,039,304 will, it does have some impact

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.. yeah conceptually 2x effect - is that not 'some enough' ? But yes on most implementations you are only getting something like 5% 'better' !!! - however I can't find any benchmarks for anyone running 64 bit windows & having read this I have a feeling with that - it'll be more ..

& on BTX motherboards if you don't what the hell that is, try this Here Comes BTX: Should You Care? (& as a btw its all ready becoming standard & definately this or similar will be adopted as atx layout is just pooh for thermal issues & airflow 'really' )

I personally don't have a problem with airflow....the AMD 64 processors don't run hot and generate as much heatsoak in the case. Here is AMD's stance on BTX http://www.techspot.com/story16412.html . I won't look hard for a dual channel benchmark link because that info is common knowledge. The 754 chips actually win in some benchmarks. What I negleted to say was 90nm is the real reason for socket 939. The dual channel performance is not enough to even notice as has been proven time and time again.

Joe

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Originally Posted by ilovetheusers

I already have the RAM. I'm NOT buying new RAM. I've got 2 x 512mb sticks of 2100 ddr right now. I know of the issue with the chipset being picky, why I posted. :)

I think the price of the 2700 and mobo is looking better now that I just ran over the bills for this month...

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About one or two months ago i bought a Asus K8V SE Deluxe, chipset Via, for a new 64 bits 3200.

For about 15 days it runed without any problems with my oem 266 Mhz RAM, but its truth: as soon as I replaced the ram with a new oem of 400 Mhz, the benchmarks just jumped.

Conclusion: why dont you buy a good motherboard, and just try the dam RAM? In my point of view its a great mistake to buy now a old mobo. You should go for socket 939 with PCIexpress, but better than that, you shoul wait to see if socket 939 suport the future dual core CPU's from AMD. The only problem would bee that you had to change the video card to PCIExpress also, but with the new Nvidia6200 that isnt tha expensive (about 100-150 Euros).

Oh, and by the way, just dont buy any Pentium: they are hot, they are slower, and almost for shure if you wont to upgrade the CPU in the future, you will bee for shure obliged to bye a new mobo (thats Intel marketing policy, always changing chipsets to force people buy them).

Greetings from the country of Sun

Dual core is supported with 940 and 939....but not 754. I love the A64's...the overclock in my sig is with the stock cooling fan. =)

Joe

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Originally Posted by peterpam

About one or two months ago i bought a Asus K8V SE Deluxe, chipset Via, for a new 64 bits 3200.

For about 15 days it runed without any problems with my oem 266 Mhz RAM, but its truth: as soon as I replaced the ram with a new oem of 400 Mhz, the benchmarks just jumped.

Conclusion: why dont you buy a good motherboard, and just try the dam RAM? In my point of view its a great mistake to buy now a old mobo. You should go for socket 939 with PCIexpress, but better than that, you shoul wait to see if socket 939 suport the future dual core CPU's from AMD. The only problem would bee that you had to change the video card to PCIExpress also, but with the new Nvidia6200 that isnt tha expensive (about 100-150 Euros).

Oh, and by the way, just dont buy any Pentium: they are hot, they are slower, and almost for shure if you wont to upgrade the CPU in the future, you will bee for shure obliged to bye a new mobo (thats Intel marketing policy, always changing chipsets to force people buy them).

Greetings from the country of Sun

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Originally Posted by FireAm94

... Here is AMD's stance on BTX http://www.techspot.com/story16412.html .

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Err umm not quite .. here is what 'someone' reported

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WHEN WE attended a joint Via/AMD press conference last week, we asked the AMD rep whether the firm would be giving any support to the BTX form factor, pioneered by Intel.
His answer was that AMD had no plans to back BTX... Whatever happened to that great hope of yesteryear, the NLX form factor? [Don't answer, Ed.]

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He-he-he-he ...

U lost me...hehe. You saying i'm wrong about AMD not backing BTX? Doesn't look that way...but u laughed *shrug*.

Joe

okee dokee then.. so AMD over Inetl, get rid of this foolish upgrade attempt, and dual channel is just meh, as in its not worth the extra $$ to get a Dual channel kit of lower lower letency memory.

Im going with the Socket 939 AMD 64 as all of there road maps indicate it will be the platform of choice in the future.

Memory wise Im planning on getting 2 512mb sticks of kinsgston PC3200 with 3-3-3 timeings. based on your comments the 2 512mb sticks with 2-3-2-6 timeings is not worth the extra $80, is that correct?

As to PCIe, I am not getting that, Im not that serious of a gamer, and can't afford to upgrade both te CPU and the video card at the same time, so I must stick with the ATI 7500 AIW AGP 4X

well my car has made the dession for me. yet another altinator has burst into flames (litteraly, why cant it burn that car to the ground while its at it!)

No PC for me!

Dual channel is board dependant and does not affect latency (so to speak). Lower latency makes the difference in performance much moreso than the actually speed with Athlon 64 processors...Intel chips are the opposite. Get the low latency memory...latency and single/dual channel are two separate things. I'm running Corsair XMS Pro 3200 XL...wouldn't have wasted my money if it didn't make a difference...then again...i'm overclocking. Also...had the 939 boards and chips been equally priced as they are now...I would've gone 939...if nothing else for future upgradability.

Joe

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Originally Posted by FireAm94

U lost me...hehe. You saying i'm wrong about AMD not backing BTX? Doesn't look that way...but u laughed *shrug*.

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I mean, that just like happened with atx, if someone'll buy it, they'll back it ! ;)

Happy New Year!

Joe