Nominations Debate

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Originally Posted by Brian G

A good moderator certainly needs to come from the community, someone who has always been responsible and helpful. In my opinion, it's up to the Admins to recognize this type of person and approach them. It's interesting to watch the trouble makers shape up when the searching begins :rolleyes:

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A valuable point, but "shaping up" as you call it, is me pleading my case to the mass. After all, I have not been approached, the nominations have begun, and the discussions ensued. What’s interesting, is watching this unfold, and see how one is perceived by those that believe that they know him. BTW, if you were referencing me in any of that rolling eye, realize this, you don’t know me.

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

I think Cleetus said it best when he said WD saved his job. He was able to vent frustrations, whether directly or indirectly, which managed him a cool head IRL. Typically when it comes to my “bad attitude” in the various discussions all over the past 3+ years that I have been here, it’s been a steam vent. What you all fail to rationalize is how is it possible for someone like me to separate from an issue, and manage a situation fairly? I can and I have, but you only remember the “bad attitude” because it sticks, additionally, I have not been a moderator, so it was never my responsibility or within my power to do anything except post subjective opinion.

None of you have ever seen what I do with a responsibility, you’ve focused on the casual sh!t stirrer, and don’t even remember the other parts to my overall personality. You perceive what you want, and believe that it personifies me as a whole, and that’s not me. Even here on the forum, not just IRL, I am more than just that.

I’ll tell you what, none of you will ever know until I get a chance to do it. If the people on top sense it’s something worth doing, then I’ll give it what I’ve got. This forum has gone through a lot of recent change, as have I, both here and in real life.

I’d like to ask those of you against me to think seriously about supporting me. Many of you also perceive my background in the Marines as a militant personality…I think we should all be able to agree that it isn’t who I am at all. But that said, let’s not forget that I was in the Corps, and I know about making difficult decisions for a greater good.

Lastly, at very least, you have to respect my willingness to bring this out and discuss it, before any decision is made by those with power. I mean, the reality is, if I really do have a chance to become a moderator, (which indecently still shocks me), I don’t want to be frowned on by any of the current full time members. Rather, I’d like for you to offer me the benefit of the doubt, and see how things turn out…that is if I really have a chance.

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I've at no point made comments about your ability to moderate a forum or not.

I stated that you where an opinionated individual, not that you where a **** stirrer or anything else. There is a difference.

I've not commented my opinions on who would make a good moderator and who would not. I choose not to enter the "nomination" discussion, however, i'm willing to discuss what qualities should be sought after in a moderator.

How long is this nomination process gonna last ?

It strikes me, that soon the bitching between folks is gonna start (well it has already a little ! ) so can we wrap this up soon ? before it turns into flame bait, which if you ask me, this thread was always likely to become !

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Originally Posted by confus-ed

How long is this nomination process gonna last ?

It strikes me, that soon the bitching between folks is gonna start (well it has already a little ! ) so can we wrap this up soon ? before it turns into flame bait, which if you ask me, this thread was always likely to become !

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That's you Pleading your case??? :p

Hey, before it wraps up, where do you stand? Are you game?

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow or even for 6 months, but one day, both Trip and Ya_know will prove me right and start a massive fight and another exodus....

It has become more then obvious that while returning NooNoo to her status was a priority, removing the situation that is Trip as mod has absolutly no concern from the mgmt here despite how many of us have come out and said something against it. Not one public mention.

Of course we are going to argue over the elephant, if you can't see the whole thing, and we aren't shown the whole thing, we will never once meet in the middle.

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

Hey, before it wraps up, where do you stand? Are you game?

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Its a poisoned challice dude ;) .. I've stepped into the breach temporarily & found it hard work - it nearly killed me ! :D - but that was doing it the hard way without the ability to just close stuff, I had to argue folks into silence ! :D

Yeah sure I'm 'up for it' .. but as I said earlier, any new mods want to take a back seat to the ones we have now, they are good, its just odd times we've had trouble finding one when required & that's what I want accomplished out of this :).

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

..It has become more then obvious that while returning NooNoo to her status was a priority, removing the situation that is Trip as mod has absolutly no concern from the mgmt here despite how many of us have come out and said something against it. Not one public mention..

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You mean by Richard1 ? Lots of folks have been busy having a poke at Trip when all he tried to do was what he thought was the right thing ..

Now 'history' or not, that convinces me his hearts in the right place, even if sometimes apparently his 'gob' hasn't been - but I'm pretty sure the lack of any public statement by Richard1 on the matter speaks volumes in itself - I'm thinking its something you will have to 'put up with' ;)

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Originally Posted by confus-ed

You mean by Richard1 ? Lots of folks have been busy having a poke at Trip when all he tried to do was what he thought was the right thing ..

Now 'history' or not, that convinces me his hearts in the right place, even if sometimes apparently his 'gob' hasn't been - but I'm pretty sure the lack of any public statement by Richard1 on the matter speaks volumes in itself - I'm thinking its something you will have to 'put up with' ;)

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Um actually, since we had more members of the admin team show up other then just Richard1, I meant all of them.

Noo is pretty busy until Monday but I will ask her the next time I talk to her when she would like me to close this thread.

On a side note, I know a lot of you are unhappy with Trip's appointment but I think you need to at least give him a chance. If it is as you say then he won't last long but after talking with him at great length through e-mail and PM's I believe he genuinely has the forums best interest at heart. Being a mod means not always being able to express how you truly feel and that isn't easy for a lot of us. It also means you must have a thick skin; a skill I'm still working on. Please be patient and give him some time to cut his teeth. The new mods definitely will have some pretty big shoes to fill. Thanks for everyone's input on this thread.

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Originally Posted by DonJ

Maybe this will halt some of the bickering going on. Maybe.

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:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

If it were only truly that easy...:rolleyes:

Exactly right Don, and Noo asked for who you want to see as a mod, not who you don't want to see and or why. So, perhaps we can keep this one on a positive note.

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Originally Posted by NooNoo

The supermods are the supermods, but who else would you like to see as a forum mod, which forum(s) and which member?

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Thanks for the vote of confidence Rich.

Not to be a sourpuss, but if all of our collective complaints and recommendations on Trip are being glossed over, why should we think any of you would consider any of our recommendations for anyone else?

Honestly it is all rather simple. There are members here that post that do not come into the lounge. The lounge is also where the vast majority of problems start and stay or stem from. Why would you ask us who to send into authority, we have all fought eachother(when I say fight, I mean debate, argue, just plain have fun with, or actually fight) and seen what happens with them.

If you want people for just specific areas, take the time away from the lounge and watch for those that spend time outside of here that you can confont privately to see if they would be interested.

All in all, this is a more cold and calculated attempt to stir crap here in the lounge then anything me, confused or ya_know have done combined.

Adept and Major have been the top choices for everyone here. Problem is that they have left for the most part, they were shown a new place by your new "I want to help Windrivers" mod Trip(Mr hugely responsible for the loss of so many here that would do better then many of us as a mod).


I think this is the last I am going to have to say about this until I get to go running a screaming all about my lounge saying "TOLD YA SO". Until then I just wait for monday to get my MRI and EMG

My 2 cents:

TripleRLtd: Means well, seems to know how to install anti-spyware software very well and look up "hi-jack this codes", loves to be and will do anything to be the center of attention, agree's with everyone on just about everything and basically just tries to hard to be liked by all. Mod? Not a chance. Imo, promoting him to mod ahead of some of the other members who deserve a chance first is a joke and a slap in the face to them and the rest of this community.

Ya_Know: Smart guy, tells it like it is. I've had my ups and downs with Ya_Know. However, he has earned my respect based on his ability to talk up front with people and his level of experience/knowledge in terms of IT related subjects. Mod? Perhaps. But not just yet. Maybe in another year or two.


Here's the biggest problem I have with this whole thing: I think there are several people here who have been around this place longer who have demonstrated far superior leadership/technical skills who should get a shot at it first if they are willing. Remember,.. actions speak louder than words.

Oh geez can i mod the windows 3.1 forum :grin:


nah seriously when it comes down to it Kato's right. I did make it rather obvious where I stood on issues such as Trip and the new Forum changes but then again at the time I had no such thing as modship to worry about.

Ya_Know is right being a mod and being a member is two different things and the way you approach things is different. I find that when dealing with my own forums and in chat.


Major Kong would make a great mod..

Plus he is my Major Sir.... a real friend that cares about the other members. He was one member that by his and his wifes care and concern helped me get through my big brave leaving my hubby time by sending me emails just to let me know people still cared while I was in the shelters at one of the lowest points of my life.

Thats the kind of person that should be a mod

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Originally Posted by DonJ

Let's get one thing straight. NooNoo's original post had to do with looking for Mods and which Forums should they mod. We aren't looking for MegaMods or SuperMods or any such thing. We are looking for people who are particularly knowledgable in any of the Tech areas such as Win98 or the Printers Forum or the Office Forum to name a few. These forums rarely have controversial than which version works best under given circumstances or which is preferred: Intel or AMD. Hours are flexible but time online will be required on a somewhat regular basis.

These should be the requirements when looking for a Mod.

We are NOT looking for somebody to mod the Tech Lounge or Politicos. The Admins, MegaMods, SuperMods, any other name you wanna-call-us-Mods will handle those Forums.

Maybe this will halt some of the bickering going on. Maybe.

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Yeah, that will stop it from me, that’s for sure. If I can't be super mod, I don't even want to be nominated anymore, what's the point? Count me out.

Well, if you have a basket weaving forum...I suppose I could sit in on that bundle of joy…:eek:

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

I’m game for airing out the laundry…you too 3 finger

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I know this may come as a bit of a shocker to yourself and everybody else, but given the list of choices, I'd pick you. Although you are rather blunt and overly agressive at times, I think you are one of the most objectional persons on this board, and would be fair and reasonable if given mod duties....(providing you could fit through the door with the big head that would come along with your new title!).

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Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

I know this may come as a bit of a shocker to yourself and everybody else, but given the list of choices, I'd pick you. Although you are rather blunt and overly agressive at times, I think you are one of the most objectional persons on this board, and would be fair and reasonable if given mod duties....(providing you could fit through the door with the big head that would come along with your new title!).

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Well thanks for that, but I don't see this happening. This ain't for super mod status, just for a particular forum. I'm either in it all the way or not at all. :bor:

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

Adept and Major have been the top choices for everyone here. Problem is that they have left for the most part, they were shown a new place by your new "I want to help Windrivers" mod Trip(Mr hugely responsible for the loss of so many here that would do better then many of us as a mod).

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Awww Cleetus I ain't abandoned ya!!! Us Land Granter's have to stick together. :p

Actually kato hit the nail on the head in my case. Due to my ummmm...very interesting schedule I get kinda scarce for 2 week periods. I just got home last night and I've had my elbows up to moose poop since I got home.

To make matters worse solar activity up in the Arctic has played hades with my dial up connection up at work and consequently I only had 'net access after work for 3 days of my 14 day hitch. :sad:

I am very honored that I would be considered for such a position, but unless you would need need someone at intervening times I will have to respectfully decline.

Oh and Mayet thank you. We really appreciate it. :)

To be honest, I don't think anyone one of the regulars around here should be a mod... there's too much history between everyone. Regardless of what happens I'll still post here and chances are I'll still post in the same manner I have been since I started here... Cleetus could be elected supreme leader and I'd still post here... Out of all of the garbage that's been said an done around here, once the smoke clears there's really only one person I'd nominate... Adept... He's one of the only people around here who's actively tried to bring some interesting things here MindTrap being one of them. While some of the techniques he uses I don't agree with (WOTPP) he's always seemed like a straight forward guy who sticks to his guns. He's cracked once or twice... but we all have... having to deal with some of the filth I've seen around this place would make anyone go berserk sometimes... Personally I come here for some knowledgable people to help me with tech problems, the guy coulda called me a f'in moron in a politicos thread and I'd still listen to his tech advice... but there are times I come here to read all the new threads in the lounge and stuff just to specifically get into an arguement... I'm one for conflict... conflict brings the best and the worst out of everyone... And Adept seems to be the only one around here who can balance between the two of them effectively... Say what you will but he's my first and probably only choice...

This is obviously not intended to insult anyone, but if it did insult you, too bad. Besides, nobody nominated me and I'm mad... LOL

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Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

I think you are one of the most objectional persons on this board

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Freudian slip, 3FS? :D

I still say

Mayet For Mod



oh and by the way...here a pic of my cheer squad.....

https://forums.windrivers.com/

In Soviet Russia- Mayet Mods YOU!

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So what did you lot not understand about doing the seagull thing???

I am going to remove ALL the comments which were NOT asked for in this thread to another thread entitled Nominations debate.... continue there.

The idea was, that since so many were vocal in objecting to trip, to provide a way of allowing the membership voice to be heard about who should be a mod... that is who should be a mod, not who should not be a mod.

I did ask for nominations not criticism... if memory serves, so far trip is the only one to have actually read what was asked for and replied correctly.

Provide a member name and a forum you think s/he would be suited to... is that really so hard???

Further nominations can be pm'd to me and I will add them to the list on the first post.

Thread locked.

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Not trying to be an *** but did you really expect there not to be opinions vented with such a topic? The entire forum reeks of opinions, even the tech forums themselves. People criticize the circumstance of a tech problem and don't offer much useful substance... it happens all the time... I would have figured you of all people would know this by now... Again, nothing personal Noo, but you lit a match under a powder keg what did you expect? my nomination stands... Adept...

I have to admit ArchO, but I saw something in you right from the door.:thumbs:
The funny thing is that I was against this one, too. Somehow, I knew.
As did you and a few more people. ;)

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Originally Posted by Mayet

I still say

Mayet For Mod



oh and by the way...here a pic of my cheer squad.....

http://www.rejectz.com/mod.jpg

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I am, and probably always will be, amazed at the simplicity for which I am coerced. May we each and all use our spare hands with which to vote for Mayet for Mod.

The man is saying wow, however the Dad in me is saying someone feed that girl...:)

yes she has been pretty sick and its showing on her hips and in her face...low iron counts.......

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I have to admit ArchO, but I saw something in you right from the door.:thumbs:

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I'm curious as to what exactly you mean by this...

PS... who is that anyways? I could make a guess... either way, she certainly is a campaign booster...

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Originally Posted by arch0nmyc0n

PS... who is that anyways? I could make a guess... either way, she certainly is a campaign booster...

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That would be Mayet's beautiful daughter, Kristen? Krissy?. Mayet has a whole bunch of them, so it's hard to remember their names. Hell, I have trouble with my own kid's names. :rolleyes:

And, I do believe she has recently turned 18...:devil:

My eldest....Krystal or Krissy...shes a model..needs to put on some beef though...I had to laugh, her boobies were the first place that lost the weight she went from an F cup down to a D...shes whinging that she doesn't even make DD now.

and I have to say it, I am so proud my punkster won a baby contest today, that Brodie my second youngest the one below on the right in the orange.

He beat all the lil girls that were lined up in their fairy and princess outfits with their makeup and crowns on. He just walked up to the judges and showed them his toy mobile phone and explained to them that it needed 'battwys' and then stuck out his lip and said..all bwoke now.....

They all laughed and he won hands down.....

http://www.rejectz.com/mod2.jpg

Mayet's wonderfull pictures aside...I don't recall seeing anyone in authority asking for volunteers to be a mod. Is this thread moot?

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Originally Posted by jitBob

Mayet's wonderfull pictures aside...I don't recall seeing anyone in authority asking for volunteers to be a mod. Is this thread moot?

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Well see Jit, this thread is a mod spin off of the original thread where Noo asked for nominations of people to mod specific sections of the site. It degenerated to the usual, so Noo split the thread.

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthr...t=69386&page=2

The above is the 2nd page of the original.

I thought it was splatter on the wall...

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Originally Posted by silencio

I thought it was splatter on the wall...

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Same thing..

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Originally Posted by MobilePCPhysician

The man is saying wow, however the Dad in me is saying someone feed that girl...:)

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the dad in me is saying this is wrong on so many levels I can't even begin..... just my opinion

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Originally Posted by kato2274

the dad in me is saying this is wrong on so many levels I can't even begin..... just my opinion

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Care to discuss?

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Originally Posted by MobilePCPhysician

Care to discuss?

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again this is just MY opinion, but I wouldn't let my daughter walk around the house dressed like that let alone take a picture and post it on an public internet forum where "friday" threads (though sparse the last couple weeks) are a regualr occurance.

I just wouldn't be comfortable knowing some guy (maybe none here but this IS the internet and more than just us regular users visit) would be "managing their anger" to a picture of my little girl. it's bad enough to know some 16 year old kid she knows is probably doing it when thinking about her, and I know it's reality. but I certainly wouldn't do anything to promote it or objectify her.

again just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right or what mayet did or does as a mother is wrong. I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by kato2274

again this is just MY opinion, but I wouldn't let my daughter walk around the house dressed like that let alone take a picture and post it on an public internet forum where "friday" threads (though sparse the last couple weeks) are a regualr occurance.

again just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right or what mayet did or does as a mother is wrong. I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

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Agreed 100% - I've mentioned the same thing before. I have three daughters and would never post pics of them dressed like that on the internet for others to oogle and god knows what else over.

But like you said, everybody has their own opinion.

I am your new digital ruler, THE MEADMOD! So all, rise to your feet, but then quickly drop to your knees and forsake all others before me.

And just what is wrong with a mother being proud of her daughter?

I don't see any of you condemning the Friday Boobie threads, are you suggesting now that those are somehow dirty? Cause they're certainly a lot more racy than that picture of Krissy is.