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When I mention about a hardware conflict I am not referring to a driver conflict. Each device that is physically connected to the computer will obtain or use a resource assigned to it either by the system board or dictated by the hardware device itself during POST. Windows does not have to be running for a card to use motherboard resources. As long as it is physically attached to the system it’s in use unless disabled or removed from the system. Definitely try removing the wireless card. When you have stupid problems you need to suspect everything until the problem is resolved. Unfortunately a trial and error situation in this case.
Okay i've re-read the forum over again. The freezing that I am acustom to is right after post and before loading the OS off a boot drive. So... Since your delay occurs before the system even posts the only other thing this could be would be the Video card BIOS is taking longer than normal to load. Did you ever use a windows based utility to make configuration changes to overclock your video card? Have you ever made any changes to the video card at all?
Perhaps even changing the bios display adapter to PCI/E from onboard or AGP\PCI. Try resetting the BIOS to its factory defaults and if you can try replacing the video card with a temporary one. Perhaps something in the video card firmware is causing a problem.
Also... Another thing... When your fans fire up full throttle and don't quiet down for 30 seconds then it POSTS. This could be caused from a power management setting. The system might be trying to poll the fans and report back the temperatures of the chipset processor etc I've seen what asus calls Q-FAN cause similiar symptoms... If you have enabled any power management settings in the BIOS to monitor fan speed etc... disable them.
If you are comfortable with flashing the BIOS give that a try too however make sure you have the right model and revision for your motherboard.
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Ok latest updates are as follows:
In bios:
Disabled legacy USB storage detect - no change
Disabled 2nd and 3rd boot device - no change
Disabled smart fan for CPU temperature (adjusts fan speed for temperature if on, always at max if off) - no change
I have flashed the bios to the latest non-beta version "F8" for my motherboard - there was no change when i did this.
I have not ever changed any settings on my video card, if i can get a hold of another video card then I would try it out but atm I don't have that option.
next is to disconnect the front panel remote connectors for 1394, USB and audio.
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panel connectors disconnected - no change
Ill go disable the onboard connectors in bios
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Onboard USB, 1394 and sound disabled - no change.
(I even needed to fish out my old PS-2 keyboard for this last one)
Next is to try and disconnect the wireless PCI card.
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PCI wireless card disconnected - no change
As far as I can figure, the only thing left to check would be driver/resource conflicts or the motherboard itself, or the video card...
Anyone have a spare PCI-express video card in Utah, salt lake county area? lol
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I've only read the last page as I'm just passing through while I get my system back up and running from a disasterous failure of all hard drives.
Have you unhooked the CD Rom then booted from the hard drive and vice versa? If one of the drives are going bad the system may take extra time trying to read from them.
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I have tried removing all but the primary boot drive, which is brand new and has been checked for errors. There was no change..
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Just for good measure unhook the new drive. New doesn't mean it isn't damaged. A bad drive could've passed QA orit even was damaged in shipping. It could be a bad circuit board on the drive and that will pass a scan of the physical sectors.
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Something to check
How about this: Take the video card out of the computer and inspect the capacitors on the video card. See if any are bulging or oozing. It may be as simple as recapping the video card. I've seen a few video cards with bad caps on them which produced similar results.
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Ill check the video card for bad caps, and then ill try using an older IDE drive from my 'Ancient of days' PC that ill have to reload windows on for this PC.
ill post the results in a few days.
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OK so it hwas been a few days but I finally managed to get another Hard drive in there and guess what happened... Using a 20Gb IDE hard drive I managed to cut down the pre-POST lag to about 6 second from around the 18 that is was before. SO this leads me to believe that either the brand new 750Gb WD hard drive that i just bought is faulty... or something is up with the SATA controller on this motherboard. I am going to try and boot my normal drive from all of the SATA ports on the motherboard individually and then ill report back
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Thanks for keeping us updated. I've got to confess that this thread really has me hooked, and I can't wait to see where it goes. Still betting on UMW (Undetermined Motherboard Weirdness) by the way:)
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Hmm... More news to share
So I disconnected both my SATA drives (750Gb boot and 80Gb backup) in order to connect an old 20Gb IDE Hard drive. I hooked up the old one, loaded windows XP and then rebooted a few times - It seems to have made a big difference from 18 seconds of lag pre-post screen to about 6 seconds... this is all stated in my most previous post..
However something else has come up... Since I didn't feel like reloading this new XP with drivers etc.. I shut down after the reboot test i mentioned, disconnected the IDE Drive and then reconnected both my SATA drives. When i went to start up the PC with both SATA Drives in place (18 seconds to post screen again)... I get the error message, "Error Loading OS" at the end of post... I am not sure what that meant so I thought maybe i screwed up my boot order or something so I popped in the windows 7 CD and ran a start up fix and - It didnt detect any issues but it did fix it and I am now back in windows 7 on the SATA drive. But every time i shut down I have to use the windows 7 CD to get back to windows every time....
Blech, I changed the boot order of my hard drives after the re-installation of the SATA drives and that fixed the error loading OS problem.
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PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
So here is what made a difference, from 18 seconds down to 6 before reaching post screen, which is normal for this mobo i suppose.... Apparently more than half (4/6 tested) of the SATA ports on my mobo cause the PC to lag when the boot drive is connected through them. so i just switched from one port to another and finally when i checked it int he port that the SATA-DVD drive was using, Bingo, 5 seconds to post screen....
I think ill contact the manufacturer to have them send me a new mobo as this one seems defective.
Thanks everyone for your help with this problem, it turned out to be something more simple than I thought.
Later
