WMDs?

Oh great....syrias next by looks like...

I think the threat more stands against us from North Korea and possibly China

Saddam was bad..evil yes and so are many other dictators still ruling their countries...most dictatoes are evil to begin with or turn evil in the efforts to keep power and to keep the masses subdued...fear and propoganda works in the short term. After time people will start rebellion and as the rebellion grows so does the dictators efforts to control it..turning more evil as more people get culled to suit his means of power....end result is a coup with someone taking over more bloody than the first..... or someone like the Us steps in and squishes the ants.....

Let the ants fume and dont squish them. Let them all do what they want as long as they don't attack the US directly (that means only the 50 states and Puerto Rico), why the heck should we meddle in the affairs of others?

*sigh* I hope we stay the hell out of Syria.

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Originally Posted by imaeditedbysowulo

but if they didn't have oil under all that sand we wouldn't have invaded.

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Yes. But not in order to make gas prices drop $.50. Oil is money, money is power. The middle east power structure looks a lot like the mafia, each family owns a piece, no-one trusts anyone else, everyone is greedy and wants more, order is kept through swift violence. That violence is spilling out into the world because they have the money and power are there. Eliminating one of those families was a message to the group; manage your organization or we'll do it for you.

No-one in the civilized world wants another world war. Industrialized nations have come a long way in providing for their populations. Outside of the occasional apocolyptic nut, you don't see terrorism in spawning in industrialized nations. But, they grow strong in poverty and ignorance. Is there any reason for most of the 25 Million people of Iraq to live in poverty they produce 2.5 Million barrels of oil per day? The same hold true for the region. The few at the top take everything and keep the masses ignorant through violence and other excercises of power. Leaders do similiar things everywhere but, those in the industrialized nations have learned to keep the people happy. It's easy to be happy and ignorant with a full belly and warm bed. It's time for those people to step into the 20th century. Maybe in another few hundred years they'll make it to the 21st.

Another thing, has anyone else noticed that we decided to take control of a middle east country after Pakistan and India got the bomb?

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

So then now we(the USA) are in the business of deposing "evil" leaders who may or may not be killing their own people?

Ok, how about China, good thing Bush wasn't president when Stalin was around, haven't heard to many good things coming out of N Korea lately, so Wesley Clark and Clinton were "bad" for trying and succeeding in taking out Milosivec, or the many other countries and leaders committing atrocities that might be deamed "evil"?

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I'd say we are in the business when the price is low. Dealing with North Korea would probably kill hundreds of thousands. Dealing with China may well be impossible, probably unecessary as well, considering that their moves to economic freedoms may well lead to personal freedoms. Lots of places in Africa could use our help, but the costs of stepping into those tribal wars is pulling back a bloody stump.

Iraq would have likely continued down its course for another 50 years or more without intervention. Saddam was healthy and had 2 heirs. Attempted revolutions were stomped out extremely quickly. We had the ability, we did the job. I just hope we can fix the place up after the fact.

I think we will continue to intervene where we are most likely to succeed though I doubt we will actually invade Syria. Lean with an elbow on their head, yes, but I'm not betting on an invasion.

of course if bush keeps on finding things to fight, noone might notice what an utter idiot he is....


theres the justification for iraq :(

This is interesting Powell now says there was no smoking gun of any direct connection with Osama's group.

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Originally Posted by Six Eyed Smily

of course if bush keeps on finding things to fight, noone might notice what an utter idiot he is....


theres the justification for iraq :(

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BAHH!! The war won't keep people from noticing he is an idiot if the immigration plan goes through. Well, he is an idiot to even think it.

So where is the proof there are wmd's on Mars?

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So where is the proof there are wmd's on Mars?

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That should of course read ...
"So where is the proof there are wmd's in Iraq ?" :D

Most important development this week: Peace moves between the Indians & Pakistanis (they are both nuclear powers !) ... :thumbs: ..we sure don't want them fighting too !

This'll help smoke out more terrorists than George is ever gonna manage in a month of Sundays ;) (they all went to hide in Pakistan) ...

...now if he could just get those talks between Israelis & the Palestians back on track, then the whole of the middle east might stop being so 'angry' with the US.

BTW ... I thought the whole thing is now pretty transparent, Powell has 'coughed' to the intelligence being 'bogus' (well overstated maybe!) see Cleetus's link :), so it was either oil or a vote winner. :eek2:

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That should of course read ...
"So where is the proof there are wmd's in Iraq ?" :D

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Nope, Bush has announced American trips to Mars.

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Nope, Bush has announced American trips to Mars.

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:D ... I know, I ain't that confus-ed, well I am, I'm worse ! but not about that ;)

Another 'random vote winning' idea ... so are the two so dis-similar ?

(obviously my linking of the two ideas was confus-ed or something that folk don't often complain about - too subtle ! :D:D:D)

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So where is the proof there are wmd's on Mars?

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I think Beagle 2 proved that without doubt. Have you seen the crater that made?

I just hope there are no WMD on Uranus.... We all know Bush would love to go there !!!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...q_chemicals_dc

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Danish troops found 36 120mm mortar rounds on Friday in southern Iraq. The Danish army said the rounds had been buried for at least 10 years.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...q_chemicals_dc

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*Note to man 1000 years from now: Archeologoy in teh persian gulf can be hazardous to your health.