Printable View
For me that is a last resort. It took me weeks to set up my system. I just don't have the time to dedicate to it, and I can't spare the computer.
One thought, if there is anyone else out there, is it possible to install my system on a new hard drive and then, when I have established that it is error free, importing the drivers to the old system. It's a long shot I know...
there is some more info here
The following quote is interesting but does not apply in the case of blackops lab... or shouldn't!
It is likely to be one of the drivers that is the problem.... so importing the drivers I would not want to do in your case.Quote:
In my case, this error for a motherboard using Bus Mastering and a NIC that does not support Bus Mastering. When Bus mastering is disabled from BIOS, this type of error went away.
You can use the settings transfer wizard, that will save a fair amount of time... but since this is likely to be hardware based, I would look at uninstalling and physically removing or shutting off in bios if on board, one device at a time.
I don't think I explained myself clearly.
May intention was to (on a new harddrive with usbs unplugged):
- Install windows
- One by one add new drivers and hardware
- Once all have been installed (and no errors occur) export these drivers and settings back to my old harddrive
I might eb speaking too soon but the problem seems to have dissapeared for the moment. For the last hour I have not been getting any error messages. I have completed a full Norton's Antivirus scan (something unheard of before). The problem is I do not know what I have done.
I tried using the verify.exe /all to see if I could detect which driver might be at fault. It seemed to crash the system so I had to reboot from previous good version and then restored the last point I new was a reasonable configuration.
The only reasl difference that I have been able to detect so far is that where as before I had(on WIndows Update) 0 critical Updates and service packs to install I now have the following 14:
Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009)
Critical Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB831167)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB832894)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB840374)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB837001)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB828741)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB835732)
Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
Security Update for Microsoft Windows XP (KB828035)
Security Update for Microsoft Windows XP (KB825119)
Critical Update for Windows Media Player Script Commands (KB828026)
Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB823182)
Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB824141)
Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)
I also have an extra 3 in the Windows XP section but I can't determine which have been unistalled.
IS IT POSSIBLE that one of the updates from the Microsoft site caused the problem???
I am a bit reluctant to reinstall any until I know which it might be.
Here is where I sit. I have had the exact error messages as Martin. As I have said I finally couldn't do anything, including a Norton AV full scan without the computer BSODing. I couldn't check my mail nothing. The only thing that was new to my system was a printer I just bought from my school. A Lexmark X125 all-in-one. About four days after that I got the whole 000000c4 ffdff120 error that this threaded conversation is all about.
I am wondering what is going to happen. I just spent 9 straight hours saving all necessary information to another computer, repartitioing the hard drive, setting up XP pro, talking with microsoft(by the way their advanced support has no idea what it is), and reloading all my old software. I am hoping by reformating (which is the worst case scenerio) it took whatever driver was on the system.
I have a Dell Inspiron 2650, with nVidia GeForce 2Go, Synaptics touch pad, ATA drivers, 3Com ethernet NIC driver, and some other stuff I can't think of right off the top of my head. I reinstalled all the drivers, and still I got the problem. I went one by one and took off all the USB's and still I had the problem. Unfortunately, I believe whole heartedly that the solution is to restart brand new. I understand that you don't have the time to do this. So you proposed saving all the information to an error free hard drive. I believe this will work given you keep only the information that does not apply to the system itself, ie docs and music and no-hardware-software-dedicated files that access the system. It might work.
I would try getting a new harddrive and reloading the OS and the drivers one at a time and rebooting each time. This will give you a definitive answer as to which drivers are courrupting the Kernel Stack.
When you find the driver that is corrupting the system, don't install it next time. You will have to go back and reformat and reinstall the OS for it to have a fresh clean start on things. Then get an upgrade...
Now all of this is tenative at the moment because who knows. I could press reply on here and get a BSOD, knowing my luck.
Let me know if any of this sounds feasible...
-Black
Yes its possible... add/remove programs usually lists the recommended updates. There is also a facility to view the update history on windowsupdate page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin009
Yes running it all up on a new hard drive and then exporting the settings is fine... BUT you cannot guarantee all the file versions and that everything gets overwritten properly. Often the longer you spend looking for a quick way out takes longer than having done it the long way in the first place.
Use the new hard drive experiment to try and recreate the problem so that you can uninstall the problem on the old one.
I have a strange quirk.
When I go into Computer Management>Services and Applications>Services>Standard and click on Universal Plug and Play Device Host and then start the service the error message seems to dissapear.
It is set to: manual. Log in is set to: This account and has custom settings in them "NT AUTHORITY\LocalService" plus a long hidden password. This is opposed to: Local System account which seems to be ticked on most of the services.
Is this a possible solution, as when I run this the error seems to stop?
Well I believe 'manual' is the system default, so I don't know if that will help you at all.
I don't think it is a USB problem.
I think it is a driver for some game, system files, or something like that.
I tried to run the repair wizard from the OS disk. But I kept getting the error message. Why not try that... See what you get. You dont have to reformat to repair
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin009
No that's how upnp works - & that's why lots of folks turn it all off - you've got to give outside authority to the process to allow it to be plug & play - it reacts to whatever is signalling to it, that it needs a configuration change..Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin009
If you go rooting around in your users in computer manaagement, you can find a very similar account for remote assistance, again many folks zap these as a security risk ..
Billy boy & his minnions still haven't got all this re-granting of permissions 'quite there' yet - lots of holes & 'why the hell does it work like this' questions as they think everyone has nailed down domains, like yeah right course they do ..
I tried a repair from the OS disk a few months ago and it ended in disaster. For some reason it would not repair. It crashed and corrupted the whole system so I could no longer boot up or anything. Luckily I had just done a complete disk image so I installed it to it’s pre-repair state.
What OS are you running, home or Pro.
I wonder if this would have any effect. If you try automated system recovery instead of repair...
Just trying to throw some ideas at you. \
If you want, we could have a live chit chat on msn or something and we could do a complete system comparison. That might help, seeing I just reloaded my OS and am having no problems what so ever.
I was thinking it might be a TEMP file to tell you the truth, because right before I had any problems I deleted the temp files out of the %systemroot% directory. Of course my A+ software book said I could, so that might not be the problem. Let me know if you would like to do that comparison thing.
-Jeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin009
One thing I just noticed. None of my COM+ apps are disabled. If any of yours are change the ones from disabled to automatic.
just an idea
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Ops Lab
Both:
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
are not started!
Both are on "Manual".
I'm using Home edition!
com+ is usually manual
Have a look at that link, it tells you what services do what and what can be done without.
out of all of my services, three of them are disabled.
HID
Routing and Remote
Telnet
The rest are either automatic or manual
Take a look at yours and let us know, Martin009
Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo