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Originally Posted by paraflyer
He goes to downtown compton in the movie and shows a normal community of people going about their business. If you didn't live near there you would think (due to media, entertainment and otherwise) that compton was a raging warzone where you would get killed if you walked down the street.
Exactly !!! The media is scaring that hell out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovetheusers
Sort of a Cleetus or Cobra then?Quote:
Originally Posted by arch0nmyc0n
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Yeah but what's that got to do with the pro gun control argument that he swings into? If you think of it logicaly he should have drawn the conclusion that guns were not the issue but the laws that make violent crime proffitable enough to risk the jail time.
It's the culture that he is highlighting.... Guns, Violence, Media, Poverty.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovetheusers
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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver
Again, what's that got to do with his reasoning for gun control?
I say we should institute tougher bullet control.
It's not the guns that kill people.
It's those darn bullets...
Actually, that was the last thing in the film. He went to Kmart Corp office, and talked them into (should I say protested them into submission) discontinuing the sale of ammunition...he was quite proud of himself... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Cause nine outta ten criminals buy their ammo at K-mart. Not off the street or anything like that. Really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
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gotta tell ya, I really want to see this...just to see what it's about, and to be able to look into ways to dispute his hollow allegations.
You haven't seen it yet you are are going to dispute his hollow allegations?
Thats a great strategy. Sort of like the one were we knew he had wmd because we knew.
I believe that beyond any politics of the movie that the actual allegations Moore makes about the Bush-Saudi relationship, etc need to be judged on whether they are true or not.
The one thing I have not heard is anyone who has seen the movie come back with any evidence that anything in the movie is untrue.
When you put yourself out their with a movie you better have your facts straight. Looks like he does.
If you choose to disagree with his conclusions thats another story.
And they will just as soon as Fox News calculates their spending on Bushes campaign.Quote:
Shouldn't these things be added to the amount of money that the demos are spending on their politcal campaign?
And I seem to remember a tv movie that showed Bush on 9-11. Only it changed anything that might have made Bush look bad. In fact it held him out as some kind of hero. While that same week Republican pressure caused a Reagan film to be moved to cable.
That's cause all the people that have seen the movie thus far support Moore's efforts... :butt:Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
Techs...a little favor, please stop posting a post, then go back and edit it after it's posted. If you have an additional Idea, post a new post. Damn, I can't count the times I read one post, reply to it, then it comes out different in the end.
Where are you going with the Regan movie now???
Why is every one afraid of Moore ??? The truth hurts ??? As for the spin he puts on things... Every one spins stories to how they see it BOTH SIDES do this...
Don't you recall. CBS (I think) made a movie about Reagan. Because it was produced by Streisand and starred her hubby Brolin the Republicans pressured CBS not to show it. Despite having not seen it. So CBS sold it to cable.Quote:
Where are you going with the Regan movie now???
In fact it was a mostly positive movie. It showed good and bad about Reagan. But it was warning to the networks.
It was censorship.
I watched the movie...twice. I didn't see a reason for it to be censored; none whatsoever. I thought it was very tastefully done. I think you need to get your story straight. It wasn't because of censorship, it was another reason I am sure...Quote:
Originally Posted by techs