Speed Limits + Safety ... Ya right

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

Oh, and going back to this point, but putting it into your own terms, if so many drivers are causing accidents because of carelessness, how is a greater speed limit, or no speed limit, going to weigh in with those people? Do you really want someone talking on a cell phone, eating French fries, doing 100 by you with bald tires? That is you asking for trouble...how old are you anyway, your profile says almost 28, but I don’t believe it? Driving dads explorer doesn't qualify you for know_it_all status, because you obviously don’t.

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I've driven in Europe, North America and Australia... I grew up on a farm so I started driving at 7.... I have driven 25000Km in one month and over 100,000 KM in one summer... And you are commenting on the fact my father need my truck and we traded for the weekend... Get your A$$ of the high horse and talk about the issues not personally insult me.... And you are right with your first point Carelessness is the major problem... And being careless a 5 MPH can kill very quickly... TRAINING TRAINING TRAINING that stops careless Errors.. Thats the way the army stops carelessness...

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Originally Posted by gazzak

Consider this question...

Two vehicles are travelling along the Motorway/Freeway/Autobahn whatever, one in lane two and one in lane three.
The vehicle in lane two is travelling at 70 mph
The vehicle in lane three is travelling at 100mph
At a given point the vehicles are alongside one another.
At this point they both have stop because of an obstruction ahead.
The vehicle in lane 2 skids from 70mph to a stop. At what speed is the vehicle in lane three still travelling when the vehicle in lane 2 is stationary ?


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The vehicle in lane three will still be travelling at 71mph???

100mph = 147ft per sec. On impact it all ends in less than half a second?

Will you have time to work it out......?

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Then how come German AutoBahns have less deaths per million miles ??

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

And that my friend is a somber note. Cops investigate accidents often enough to be able to determine how fast a car was going, from skid marks, to how deeply crushed in the car is around it's victims. They know when this was a 50 mph hit or a 90mph hit. Escape, you are no expert, you are not all knowing. Neither are these cops, true, but they have a much longer track record and life experience to qualify for their credibility.

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And your an Expert ???

Found that article, have a read here. It is very well written.

Here's the best bit...

"We're here to make the roads a safer and better place, we only want the drivers that drive badly, showing no respect to other road users", one officer told me.

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Originally Posted by gazzak

Found that article, have a read here. It is very well written.

Here's the best bit...

"We're here to make the roads a safer and better place, we only want the drivers that drive badly, showing no respect to other road users", one officer told me.

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Ok once again what does a speed limit have to do with bad drivers... Get bad drivers off the road and give them tickets... Speed does not make a bad driver... Carelessness and lack of training does !!!

I think we need electric "smart" cars that drive themselves (like in several movies). You program in the destination and it drives you there, all the while it is communicating with the other cars on the road and working in unison with them. It will have a few bugs to work out but in the long run make everyone much safer. I know I drive too fast sometimes, and others may drive too slow. Traffic usually has a flow to it, the best drivers get in this flow, not too fast or slow. Unfortunately, everyone has their own way of driving, and too fast or slow, or talking on cell phones, etc. are all hazardous. My ride to work would just be so much more relaxing if a computer drove. I would just chill out and play a game or read a book. It would be good.

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Originally Posted by edball

I think we need electric "smart" cars that drive themselves (like in several movies). You program in the destination and it drives you there, all the while it is communicating with the other cars on the road and working in unison with them. It will have a few bugs to work out but in the long run make everyone much safer. I know I drive too fast sometimes, and others may drive too slow. Traffic usually has a flow to it, the best drivers get in this flow, not too fast or slow. Unfortunately, everyone has their own way of driving, and too fast or slow, or talking on cell phones, etc. are all hazardous. My ride to work would just be so much more relaxing if a computer drove. I would just chill out and play a game or read a book. It would be good.

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Yep thats a great idea.... Now thats an idea that would make things safer

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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver

Yep thats a great idea.... Now thats an idea that would make things safer

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Unless it ran on a Microsoft product. That would give systems crash a whole new meaning.

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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver

I'm tired off safety experts telling us speed is bad and raising speed limits will kill all kinds of people.

Then why does the autobahn have 1/4 of the death rate of the USA's interstate Highway ???

Your thoughts ???

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I was stationed in Germany for 3 1/2 years, and drove quite a few kilometers on the autobahn. Here's why you have a statistical difference:

1) The autobahns are very well maintained. No potholes. Just long, sweeping curves and straightaways.

2) German drivers take classes for two years to get their drivers license. This doesn't necessarily make them better drivers, but it probably helps.

3) Passing on the right is against German law. The faster cars are in the left lanes, and slower cars and trucks in the right lanes.


MD

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Originally Posted by MadDog

I was stationed in Germany for 3 1/2 years, and drove quite a few kilometers on the autobahn. Here's why you have a statistical difference:

1) The autobahns are very well maintained. No potholes. Just long, sweeping curves and straightaways.

2) German drivers take classes for two years to get their drivers license. This doesn't necessarily make them better drivers, but it probably helps.

3) Passing on the right is against German law. The faster cars are in the left lanes, and slower cars and trucks in the right lanes.


MD

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Passing on the right is illegal here too, but people whine that cops are pulling them over for "stupid reasons" when they get caught.

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Originally Posted by Escape_Driver

Then how come German AutoBahns have less deaths per million miles ??

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I listed many possible contributing factors that you still haven't addressed, any of which could have a huge impact as compared to speed. Hell, I could make a grand case that SUVs and light trucks cause the majority of the fatalities that make up the gap between the autobahn and interstates. Autobahn to interstate is not an apples to apples comparison by any realistic measure.

By the way, you never did address the weakness in that statistic. The comparison was the German autobahn to Nevada roads. The study never specifically states interstates, it merely says roads. Not really a great comparison.

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Originally Posted by jaeger

Unless it ran on a Microsoft product. That would give systems crash a whole new meaning.

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I think we'll use Linux for this one. Also, I want a flying car. That would be way cool. Yeah, flying.

From what I can tell he is just whining cause he actually has to follow the law and can't drive as fast as he wants to, damned be the others on the road or trying to have some osrt of order in our society

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

From what I can tell he is just whining cause he actually has to follow the law and can't drive as fast as he wants to, damned be the others on the road or trying to have some osrt of order in our society

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But don't you want a flying "smart" car ? I read about them on the net.

http://www.moller.com/skycar/

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Originally Posted by edball

But don't you want a flying "smart" car ? I read about them on the net.

http://www.moller.com/skycar/

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I want a flying time travelling DeLorean. But then the speed limits would have to be increased to 88mph