So you'd have no problems with the above mentioned senario, you a heterosexual, bunking with two confirmed homo's....do tell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
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So you'd have no problems with the above mentioned senario, you a heterosexual, bunking with two confirmed homo's....do tell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
What slam dunk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You are just getting the willies that two guys might, I repeat MIGHT, play with each others willies and that you MIGHT happen to walk in on them?
You have no arguement except for blatant discrimination based solely on a sexual lifestyle. Your arguement excludes people from serving because of what they do behind a closed door. You aren't basing it off of performance, ability, skin color, or whether they have tits or a dick, just what they may or may not do, and your preconcieved notion that all gays ever do is have sex.
Once again, you have no arguement at all past the act of sex.
I don't know Ya, common barracks, and showers works in the movies (Starship toopers) why would't it work in real life?
Seriously, this is all a problem with perception. In northamerica we seem to have a big problem with nudity. This seems to be where your focusing your attention, taht some guy will geta hard on while your takeing a shower the next time your on active duty. Thats what your realy affraid of isn't it, some guy checking you out.
I'll stick to dont ask dont tell and not even think about the possibility that that guy *might* consider it. Ignore it and it wont bother you, keep thinking about it and you'll turn it o howard hues locked up in your hut affraid the gay germs will get you.
No problem at all, just as I would have no problem with a woman thrown in the mix. If we work together in such an environment, I would hope that if I am going to fight, kill and potentially die with someone we would have more respect for each other and realize that ****ing on top of each other non-stop wouldn't happen. You are assuming that the gay guys are instantly going to become a couple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
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Originally Posted by Cleetus
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Originally Posted by Cleetus
And you are making the blatant assumption that there wont be any coupling. Who’s being naive here? You don’t see the sexuality of a man important in defining his relationship with other men, I think it’s a very important factor. If the guy doesn’t want sex, that’s one thing, but if he wants sex from other men, that’s a big problem. And a major issue in the armed services.
You keep falling on one simple point, the phobia. Well, I’ll do the same in reverse, there’s something wrong with the open acceptance of an erroneous lifestyle decision to be gay. You can decide to lace your shoes up left over right instead of right over left and that’s not a problem, but you choose to have same sex relationships, that’s a decision against the nature of our bodies. I stand by that reasoning as a part of my argument. You’re blatant acceptance is yours; hence again we are at a stale mate.
Going back to the argument style and content, not who is right or wrong, I won the argument. I may not be right in your eyes, or the rest of the liberals here, but I formulated the better argument, that I am certain of, and you agree…hence you wouldn’t be taking all the cheap shots, you would instead argue the merits of your position.
Dude, your whole arguement is sex and bigotry. Is sex going to become rampant and happen everywhere? And how could a gay person ever fit in?
A gay person can fit in by not being gay!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
I reemphasize this point, I think you missed it. And as always, I won this argument.
You don’t see the sexuality of a man important in defining his relationship with other men, I think it’s a very important factor.
You would have been better off by sticking with an arguement aligned to your belief on the central idea to your arguement. You pussyfooted around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You should have stuck with the fact that you believe that homosexuality is but a choice and a deviation from a societal norm. As much BS as I talk, homosexuality has not been proven as genetic, leaving it as a choice. This choice is a deviation and a sickness that is a constant threat to the lifestyle of the soldier. We screen to keep out others for mental sickness or deficincies, and homosexuality is no different. By being unable to perform properly in society, we can not expect them to perform with the heightened expectations of the military.
Or something like that.
Why didn't you do that in the begining when you were on the opposite pole. We could have had a lot of fun with this... :thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Cause I didn't think of it then, never said my brain was the fastest on the block :thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Now I know what the 3r's are.... you anal retentive perv!Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
Forgot to smile.
Seems like Yaks better half to me :rolleyes: :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
Ya_Know,
The act of Homosexuality is contrary to your statemtns entirly natural. Just watch any group of farm animals. They are always trying to hump each other regardless of gender.
In hte isolated enviroment of a farm it is how ever arguable that due to farming tequniques of keeping the genders speperate to control breeding that the animals just get that urge and go for it. However if we assumed sentience why would one bull or steer just stand their and take it?
This raises a simmilar question about human practices. A common joke amounst army types is about those Navy boys. you know how thy spend months on end basiacly confined to ship with nothing but other men around (at lest back in the day and still on submarines). Can we then infer that in the Militry enviroment this practice would then be considered normal and an ultimate result of social conditions just as described by the farm enviroment.
Mabey thats why your so homo phobic you commonly spend time in an enviroment that through its conditions encurages theis behaviour.
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Originally Posted by RejectionMan
Nice try, but I will not compare the human intellect to that of a common farm animal. Does a farm animal know right from left, green from red, can it read a book? The bestial instincts of an animal are not relevant here!
And as far as the cheap shots, it’s all been tried before, it's just meant to rile someone like me, not address the argument. I know who I am sexually; it’s the homo’s that have trouble with who they are…
Yeah, you are the one that watches all of your wifes shows and lets her do all the driving