MS-6330 ver: 2.1

On the LED issue:
Tryed wiring two outputs for the power on LED and have had no more problems with them burning out. HAS to be an abnornally high voltage. An extra resistor would work also.


Ron

Hey everyone, need some help with a really weird problem. I'm working on a Gateway for a friend, it wouldn't boot. I replaced the power supply and now I get very strange noises when booting the machine. It sounds almost like a bearing in a fan going out, but the noise is coming from the little piezo speaker down at the bottom by the PCI slots. It also seems to be erratic, sometimes the noise disappears completely, during one of those times the machine rebooted and I actually got in the BIOS, but while poking around in there the noise started again and the monitor went black. The noise is absent if I remove the processor, but obviously the board won't boot without a processor. I've removed all PCI, IDE, and AGP devices, pulled the board out in case it was grounding against the case, still the same problem.

Is the board dead? I assume so, I guess it's off to Ebay to find another.

This is a MSI mobo called an Athlon Keystone or Oxnard. Gateway model: Select 1000. If you have original tower use serial # first at Gateway Support Site. http://support.gateway.com total address is the same plus /s/MOTHERBD/MSI/2511806nv.shtml. This is for the MSI KT133. Part # is 2511806. Use this if you cannot find original info for case or white :) tag on mobo. Everything you ever will need for these mobos and more, good luck and e me if you need any help. PRIMARY COMPUTER REPAIR

Just an update.
I have been running this board now for over 6 months Win2k with no problems. This is my first with this OS, learning curve was a bit steep. I used a KVM between this one and a Win98SE box.Runs FireFox flawlessly, frankley has done everything I have asked. Have retired the 98 box for things. This is still the most knowledgable thread out there on this board.

Ron

i have a select 1000 same problem gateway shows a Jabil Athlon (oxnard) motherboard p/n 2512212 board shows ms 6330 rev, 2.1 it has a p/n 4000664 and barcode P05c032511045434 had prolbem with me xp was great untill up bios oaavwp13 bios 7511677 this is my
Specifications


Specifications
BIOS AMI BIOS
RAM Capacity Three 168-pin DIMM sockets
Support for 32 megabytes (MB) to 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of 133-MHz ECC or non-ECC unbuffered SDRAM using 256-megabit technology
Support for SPD and non-SPD DIMMs

AGP Slot Meets AGP 1x, 2x, and 4x specifications
Processor and Host Bus Speed AMD Athlon processor in a 462-pin ZIF Socket A
133-MHz host bus speed
Chipset VIA KT133 chipset consisting of:

AMD VT82C686A South Bridge (peripheral controller hub)
AMD VT8363 North Bridge (host controller hub)

USB Ports 1.0 specification compatible
On-Board IDE SMSC LPC47M102 LPC interface super I/O controller
UATA 33/66
Slots Five 32-bit bus master PCI v2.2 slots
Supports 3.3-V to 5-V bus interface
Remote Control Meets ACPI specifications
Power switch connector on-board
Soft power off

Environmental Operating: 0 to 55° C (32 to 133° F)
Non-operating: –40 to +70° C (–40 to +158° F)
Note: An ambient temperature that exceeds the board's maximum operating temperature by 5 to 10° C may cause components to exceed their maximum case temperature.

Reliability MTBF is 293,919 hours, at 55° C (133° F)

i have replace powersupply 400wat 2 fan L1 L2
is wrong i thang help thanks gateway not much

Im confused, what is it doing?

Ron

I cant d/l the file 7511677.exe from gateway at the library (where i have my ONLY internet connection). Could someone, anyone email it to me at [email protected]...
thanks.

ok. got it to stop beeping by putting in 3 ramchips (all 128 meg). have only a video card in besides that. I turn it on it stars up then quits again. is there something else im missing? I have a amd1200 cpu in it, its running 3x128mb pc100 sdram. i have in it an ATI allinwonder vidio agp card, and does the case speaker go on the 10&16 pins? although the monitor does sort of 'blink' when i power it up, there is no picture otherwise and every time it shuts off after a boot attempt i cant get it to power up again unless i change something in the way the pins are set up.



pin configuration 1&3 hddled
5&7 reset switch
6&8 power
9&13 pwr led
15 . . . . . . . . 1
16 . - . . . . . . 2
Thank you for the help.
(the - signifies no pin here)

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Originally Posted by fozzie

finally i cant save the 7511677.exe with the rest of the files because there isnt enough room in the floppy. ive tried numerous things but nothing works.

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you could set it up to boot off the cd first and put all those files (including the system and command files) onto the cd. then boot off the cd.

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Originally Posted by lonewolf52

Could you please email me on how you got front side connections wired. I tryed from gateway website but either I',m not smart enough or something to do. Would appreciate if you could send either simple instructions on what goes where or a drawing with each marked. As everyone else found out this is Gateway OEM and wires diff and Gateay won't help. Thank you, JohnP ([email protected]) or my posted email. Thanks again JohnP

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see my previous question about how the monitor blinks at me. :)

Just a followup:
I found a Ginormous case and crammed this MoBo in it.
Running both an ATA 66 and ATA 100 card.
The Primary HDD is a 3Gig Western, contains 2kPro and a self updating AntiVi.
Thats all!
8 HDDs are on the cards, Lots-O-Storage.
Has run perfect for 9 Mos or so.
Not to shabby for a $15.00 MoBo

Ron

Wow, thanks for letting us know, a well justified thread resurrection... :)

They were an OK motherboard - a bit prone to electrolytic capacitor faults, I've fixed a few with that problem.

Hi, This post is very informative, however I would like some specific information. If someone can help me then please send me a private message. Best Regards,

Welcome to Windrivers shazadmasih

What specific information do you want? People are unlikely to pm you without knowing.

What happens if I put some 266MHz or higher 512 RAM into my MS-6330 Ver2.1 if it only accepts 100 or 133MHz? Thanks [newbie]

Not sure what you mean by 266.
The 512mb should show up.
It will run either PC100 or PC133.
DDR is named differently and will not fit in the same slot.
It looks like it will but the notch is in the spot,


Ron

Welcome to Windrivers gareth lewis

jronald has it correct, you are almost certainly talking about DDR SDRAM when you actually need ordinary SDRAM. Forcing the wrong type of ram (or putting it in backwards) will fry your motherboard and possibly your processor too.

you should look @ the caps if they are chhsi replace them they have a tendency to blow easier than most other brands.I have one of the MS-6330 VER: 2.1 and just had to replace them if you have some old power supplies around you can save a li'l $ there are 3 different values.

Welcome to Windrivers Michael

Yes there are a few discussions on the forum about slightly bulging capacitors, stemming back from when a lot of manufacturers managed to use a bad batch. A capacitor that blows when you are looking at it is a dangerous thing.

this board can also have the front panel connetors moved and then you can find the right pins for what you are plugging in just remove the old ones and solder the holes shut then right aROUND THE CORNER OPEN THOSE HOLES AND INSERT PINS WHERE YOU NEED THEM

I'm new here and I'm not sure if I should ask my question in this thread or start a new one.

This gateway oem I've acquired, can it be successfully flashed with either AMI or AWARD bios from MSI's site? It has the gateway OAAVWP13 flash on it right now, but I'm not impressed with the very limited menu. I want more control over it, especially when it comes to settings or updating or simply installing vga, via and nvidia drivers. I think if I stick with gateways mobo flash, I won't be able to use any others, particularly msi's.
I don't want to chance flashing with the msi flash bios until I've heard from someone who knows whether it will work or leave me with a mobo that can't be restored. So, has anyone done this with their kt133 chipset (K7T pro)?

Particulars of my oem from Gateway support site:

Jabil Ahlon Motherboard - 950MHz
ms-6330 ver 2.1 (oxnard)

Specifications:

BIOS AMI BIOS
RAM Capacity Three 168-pin DIMM sockets
Support for 32 megabytes (MB) to 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of 133-MHz ECC or non-ECC unbuffered SDRAM using 256-megabit technology
Support for SPD and non-SPD DIMMs
AGP Slot Meets AGP 1x, 2x, and 4x specifications
Processor and Host Bus Speed AMD Athlon processor in a 462-pin ZIF Socket A
133-MHz host bus speed

Chipset VIA KT133 chipset consisting of:

AMD VT82C686A South Bridge (peripheral controller hub)
AMD VT8363 North Bridge (host controller hub)
USB Ports 1.0 specification compatible
On-Board IDE SMSC LPC47M102 LPC interface super I/O controller
UATA 33/66
Slots Five 32-bit bus master PCI v2.2 slots
Supports 3.3-V to 5-V bus interface
Remote Control Meets ACPI specifications
Power switch connector on-board
Soft power off
Environmental Operating: 0 to 55° C (32 to 133° F)
Non-operating: –40 to +70° C (–40 to +158° F)

Note: An ambient temperature that exceeds the board's maximum operating temperature by 5 to 10° C may cause components to exceed their maximum case temperature.
Reliability MTBF is 293,919 hours, at 55° C (133° F)


Thanks in advance!

Sorry I posted this twice. My posting was not present right after I wrote it.

That's hard to say for certain, testtubealien.

Whilst it's possible the BIOS code may swap between OEM and boxed boards bearing the same model number, I think experience shows it's unlikely.

Tech sites get queries from folk who have flashed their OEM board with an update from the board manufacturer and it has stopped working. OEM suppliers like MSI are specific that they don't supply updates for the OEM boards.

One possibility would be to search BIOS-specific sites like wimsbios to see if anyone else has successfully tried what you have in mind, or is asking for help because they did it and it failed...

I last updated in August of 2004
I can not believe that this $24.00 board has run my primary server for this many years. Still in the ginourmous case, with WAY to many cooling fans. Still has umpteen HDDs hanging off add on cards. Im afraid to open the case! The temps are still good, it still responds to enquirys. If it craps out tomorrow, I GOT my moneys worth.

Ron

I just bought one of these MS-6330 Ver. 2.1 boards in July (2007). I wonder if the capacitors were replaced in a refurb, or if these are "as manufactured"?
I was almost going to move my front panel connector pins to the alternate location , slightly to the right of and 90 degrees to the Gateway front panel connector. There, the place for pins is clearly labeled as to which does what. I had booted mine up by jumping the points where the power switch pins could be soldered. It ran great.

I decided to use an ohmmeter and see what pin corresponds to each of the labeled pin holes. Besides doing that, I also found that the part number of the cable that plugs on to the front panel connector is 8001996. The Gateway site provided a good view of the connector and the cable, including the wire colors and groupings.

Note... If you download "Belarc Advisor", and run it, it'll tell you the serial number of the machine the board thinks it is. Then go to Gateway's support site, and enter your serial number. Gateway's site identifies mine as a Gateway Select 1100, ship date 5/3/2001. Gateway lists this bios download: 7511677.exe - BIOS Update for the Oxnard Motherboard, version 0AAVWP13
Supports: All Operating Systems.

http://support.gateway.com/s/CASES/s...6/b0199601.jpg

http://support.gateway.com/s/cases/s...6/b0199603.jpg

I found good a pic of the front panel LEDs and switch, that showed which wires went to what, but I lost the URL. I have it saved as a jpg, tho.
Note: Green LED is HDD activity. Clear one is bicolored… Green or yellow. It grounds to pin 13


Here's everything, including color coding of the cable.
Odd pins on the motherboard from 1 to 15 are along the right edge.
Even pins from 2 through 16 are along the left edge (14 is missing)
.................................................. ............
HDD Led. pins 1 (black [330 Ohms] ) and pin 3 (red ) If it doesn’t light, reverse them.
.................................................. ............
Front Panel Power LED Green component pin 2 (green +)
Front Panel Power LED Yellow component pin 4 (pink +)
Ground for Green/Yellow combo LED pin 13 (black -)
.................................................. ............
Power SW pins 6 (blue +) and pin 5 (wht -)
.................................................. ............

That's all the wires that are on the factory cable.

Reset would be pins 7 and pin 8 (ground) A few of the Gateways had a reset switch.

This might be useful, too:
http://support.gateway.com/s/CASES/s...6/b0199603.htm

Excellent information Soyonara, thanks for posting it and welcome to Windrivers!

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Originally Posted by fozzie

hi guys after wandering the net looking for answers ive ended up here. i was given an old gateway select 1100 thats about 3-4 years old. it has the ms-6330 ver2.1 motherboard. the computer has all the original hardware and was running winme but it had so many problems i decided to reformat the hd and install winxp. now everything is running great i have had no problems with winxp except for one thing. when i boot up the computer i get a "Reboot Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device" message and it gets stuck there. if i press alt+ctrl+del it will continue to boot up normally and all is fine. i looked into this problem and gateway tells me to update the bios in order to fix this problem (http://support.gateway.com/s/issues/151305110.shtml). so i downloaded the file and followed all their instructions step by step in order to update the bios only problem now is it doesnt seem to work. tells me to leave the diskette in the drive and restart the computer to get the update going but when i restart the computer i just get a "non-system disk or disk error" message. ive gone through numerous brand new disks to try and get it to work. no luck. so ive gone through the msi website to try and find a bios update there but i cant seem to locate it. im using the computer right now and everything runs fine.. i just hate to have to alt+ctrl+del that first message everytime i turn on the computer. any help would be appreciated. thanks.

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I am currently having the same problem. However my situation is also diffrent. I have been tryint to do a new clean install of WINDOWSXP HOME EDITION and it wont read it.. it works fine on other computers and i have even used the HDD that is witht he ms-6330 ver:2.1 mobo on other computers to test its stability... i have used ISO test it and it passes. Now the HDD is zeroed out and is not formatted. and it still wont read the xp cd. i have tried cable other cdroms includint a dvdrom.. but to na avail. still get the same message. I will try to install the BIOS update but i will use IBM-formatted disketts like they said and see if that works... did any of youguys actually got the update completed ??? and how can i get it to read my XP CD so i can install mY OS??? Hope you guys can help me. Thanks

pryma:confused:

Welcome to Windrivers pryma

Have you tried with the cd rom and the hard drive on the same ide channel?

Sorry about another resurrection:
But Ginormouse case and all is still running fine after all these years. I have not touched/cleaned/or moved the case since it was original set down in the spot it is still in.

Set it and forget it!

Ron

Its amazing how this thread just keeps bouncing back...........

How about a blast from the past:
http://www.pcpartsohio.com/BookDetail.aspx?item_id=336&

Keeps going and going

Ron

"Socket 462 for Further Expansion" :D

$19?? that much?!

It seems fitting that this long running thread.........

.........should contain my 500th post.

Congrats ADS!

She was the last one I had running 2kPro on
Ran 24/7 on an UPS
In all of these years it was maybe turned off 6 times? (Even a UPS doesnt last for long power outages)
Still in the huge case
Still way too many fans
Everything silent, everything still

Sort of melancholy

Ron

Old computers never die, they just wait in a corner.

What about old Techies? I certainly need a memory upgrade at least. Going upstairs and forgetting what for all the time.

I cured that.... I quit going upstairs!